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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEven if Pee-gate isnt true, Donald Trump is stuck with it.
The actual report, which is unconfirmed, states that Trump hired prostitutes in Russia to perform a golden showers urination show for him, which Russian authorities planned to use as compromising material to blackmail him. The details have been the subject of some amused debate on Twitterwas Trump actually showered upon? or did he just watch? is urine sterile?but they dont really matter. What matters is that the connection between Trump and kinky pee is now seared into our collective consciousness.
The scandal tracks closely with this famous would you rather conundrum: Would you rather have sex with a goat but have nobody know, or not and have everyone think you did? David Cameron is a real-life exemplar of this query. An unsubstantiated allegation was published last year alleging that he had stuck his nob in a pigs gob. The chances that Trump or Cameron actually did these salacious acts are small, but that doesnt change the fact that everyone cant stop seeing and talking about it.
Trump did his best to discredit the report, signaling in a rare use of all-caps that this was a Drudge sirenlevel offense: FAKE NEWS - A TOTAL POLITICAL WITCH HUNT! Trumps Twitter feed is fake news incarnate, but (and it pains me to say it) he was not wrong to label Pee-gate a kind of fake news. The paradox is that in the era of fake news, the term fake news has lost any real meaning, in no small part due to Trump. News is as partisan as anything else, a blunt weapon to be used against political opponents. And whether the story is true or not, Trump has to live with it.
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dubyadiprecession
(6,084 posts)perhaps a flash mob of men near the reviewing stand unzipping their flys to pee for trump.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,964 posts)Based on claims from Otto Strasser, one of Hitlers opponents in the Party, it alleged that the dictator forced his niece Geli to urinate and defecate on him.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)he's so fucking clueless....
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,964 posts)to criticize him or the Nazis! (No freedom of the press or freedom of speech.)
Right-wing gun nuts like to pretend it came from disarming the German citizenry. BS! What was an armed German supposed to do if he openly criticized Hitler? Take on the armed German police and soldiers who were expected to enforce that speech law? Good luck with that!
Henry Krinkle
(208 posts)I never even heard of the David Cameron thing.
As far as Trump is concerned, the comics and late night talk show hosts might run with it for a bit,
but the joke only really works if the allegation is true.
If it does turn out to be true (which I'm really doubtful of), then even the most merciful god can't save him
from the ridicule, stigma and unrelenting mockery associated with the event.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,967 posts)Of course it's bs but they are forever associated with it.
Henry Krinkle
(208 posts)I'm guessing that Gere and Stewart were laughing about it, and/or dismissed it long ago.
Trump, not so much if this allegation sticks in the public's minds.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,967 posts)Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)what is the Rod Stewart thing-- that he sucked off a whole bunch of guys and got sick? That's what I had heard.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)I know I do.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Let's just say the FSB informant made up the story and it got passed along. Should we be focused on it? Is it a distraction from the reality that tRump coordinated with Putin to hack the DNC?
At the same time, I find the story so compelling that I can't discredit it and move on. Is it possible? Yes! Is it plausible? Knowing how tRump thinks and behaves, definitely. There was a means and a motive. You have to ask yourself who could have made this up. I keep coming back to the saying "Truth is stranger than fiction".
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)The intel docs actually said Trump had a lot more trouble -- obvious corruption-- in China. FWIW.