How many of you think the Trump campaign coordinated with the Russians?

[Chasstev365]

If so, how many think the Democrats have proof?

It seems unlikely, but is it possible that the Democrats are waiting and will hit Trump with it right out of the gate. Thoughts?

[tirebiter]

1. At the very least Trump took advantage of the situation

As did the Republican party.

[underthematrix]

2. It was a coup which included Russia, Israel and officials inside fed gov't

[bdamomma]

3. My opinion

I think the intelligence agencies have some information and again tRump is trying to discredit these agencies. I really don't think the Democrats are going to be focused on this issue cause their will be many issues for them to deal with. The ACA will be number one, but watch out for Ryan and McConnell They are up to their eyeballs in guilt and treasonous acts.

[uponit7771]

5. Treason is pretty fucked up not only that what's to stop the Ruskies to do it again in another

... 4 years or another 2?!

Dems can get cheated out of office until the end of time if they're allowed to cheat over and over again

[Merlot]

16. Makes sense - explains why trupmt is discrediting the CIA

If/when the CIA makes their info public. Although my guess is the CIA is a few steps ahead of trupmt and will leak info through other sources.

Democrats are smart to make their fights about the issues, not the personality.

[xor]

21. If certain intelligence agencies do have some sort of evidence against Trump

then they might not want to play their entire hand, because doing so would give away details about their operations that they don't want out there.

[uponit7771]

4. There's already proof that there's one state registration that has been hacked.

[leanforward]

6. Count me in.

I believe there was some sort of collusion within whatchamacallit's campaign and the Russians. They have him by the short hairs. It all has to do with his LLC or whatever you want to call it and his Russian property. He is upside down.

[Alice11111]

28. Campaign tacitly acknowledged it. A Win, win, win 4 Putin

Sons talked about Russian loans, and Not many in US.
DT camp staff said they had talked to Putin, or at least his staff.
Win win win for Putin. 1. He gets rid of Hillary, who would continue to call him out, and refuse to be his stooge. 2. He has DT in his hand, and he must oblige. 3. If DT gives him backlash, Putin spills the beans, and the US looks as stupid as the DT voters are.

[JI7]

7. not in a directly intentional way . Trump is too stupid to do that. but more in that Trump

knows it benefits him to stay on their good side because of various reasons that could be from dealing with his debts. something they might have on him etc.

but i think maybe Manafort, Flynn or some other figures could have more of a direct relationship. and all of these combined know how to deal with trump from just manipulating him by saying good things about him to knowing things about him.

[Merlot]

18. Plausible deniability for p-tang

He has such a lack of filter that if he knows the truth he will find a way to brag about it.

[TheMastersNemesis]

8. They Certainly Did But We Will Never Know. The Evidence Is Well Hidden From A Complicit Press.

[Doreen]

9. I think they did coordinate.

[sarah FAILIN]

10. Manafort came to the Trump campaign about a month before closing up his office in the Ukraine

I believe from that point on Trump had his own proverbial red phone.


I also believe he is neck deep in debt to them.


Sadly, I don't think the dems can prove a thing.

[onecaliberal]

11. IMO they purposefully coordinated and ripped off the election.

[stevenleser]

12. I think some element of the Trump campaign did coordinate with Putin.

Probably Manafort if I had to make a guess.

[kennetha]

13. If not Trump himself, then his staff certainly did

It's not the Dems that will have the proof. It's the CIA and FBI.

Remember this intriguing tidbit rom the NY Times (which has gotten very little play in the fawning and deferential press)

The F.B.I. began investigating Russia’s apparent attempts to meddle in the election over the summer. Agents examined numerous possible connections between Russians and members of Mr. Trump’s inner circle, including former Trump aides like Paul Manafort and Carter Page, as well as a mysterious and unexplained trail of computer activity between the Trump Organization and an email account at a large Russian bank, Alfa Bank.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/11/us/politics/cia-judgment-intelligence-russia-hacking-evidence.html


This article is worth close re-reading. Hard questions are clearly being asked at the FBI and the CIA about Trump and the Ruskies. I suspect (or at least hope) that the report they release will contain some bombshells that may rock our politics to the core.

[YOHABLO]

14. I think it was clear that Russian manipulation was a major component

We still have voter suppression by the Republicans, who simply will go to any length to seize power. Cross Check, and voter ID laws are but two examples. The Trump cabal's collaboration with the Russian government is something the U.S. populace can not fully understand without sufficient evidence. I think we're all waiting. I cannot see how Trump could have won this election without some malfeasance going on.

[Merlot]

19. I think russian manipulation was also a factor but

without it the voter suppression would have been enough to tilt the election.

[NewJeffCT]

15. My guess is that some people high up in the Trump campaign

had a direct line to some powerful higher-ups in Russia. These people close to Trump know how to manipulate him into doing their bidding.

I doubt the Democrats have incontrovertible truth. I hope they do, but I'm notconfident.

[MarinCoUSA]

17. Yes/No IT DON'T MATTER

If even 1 of his trolls had a Russkie contact in their roladex- TREASON.

[triron]

20. Very likely

[iluvtennis]

24. Agreed. I think Russia did it with the constant email leaks during election cycle AND they hacked..

..into some vote tallying systems. I don't put anything pass Putin. Never forget that he was the leader of the KGB (Russia's CIA)

[NBachers]

22. Yes

[lutherj]

23. Wait a minute, the Democrats hit someone with something? . . . ? You mean like something that

hurts? Last time that happened? Maybe . . . FDR?

[lancelyons]

25. I think he colluded with Putin

I don't believe that democrats have proof but they need to figure out how to deal with the new age republican. They will lie, cheat, and do most anything to remain in power including fighting democrats at the polls with voter suppression.

[kennetha]

26. I think the CIA has proof.

And I think we will learn of it soon. CIA knows that Russia Hacked RNC but decided not to release what it found.

• The C.I.A.’s assessment is not public, but is thought to turn on another alleged hack. Russia also hacked data from the Republican National Committee but declined to release whatever it found, intelligence agencies told Congress. That has given credence to theories that Moscow actively favored the party’s candidate.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/12/world/europe/russia-trump-election-cia-fbi.html

Why is nobody talking about the hack of the RNC? I'm sure the NYT isn't making this one up.

[potone]

27. We don't know.

That is the problem. If Trump had been forced to release his tax returns we would have a much better idea of the extent of his dealings in Russia. The fact that he has people around him who have had extensive financial dealings in Russia is not reassuring.

We still don't know what happened with the DNC emails. The intelligence agencies insist that it was Russian hackers; Assange denies it, and a former UK ambassador claims that he got the emails from an inside source. I want to see some evidence, damn it, not a bunch of conflicting assertions by people who cannot or will not provide evidence to support their claims.

[Thinkingabout]

29. We do not know Trump's business dealings or those of the people he has had in his campaign team

so it will remain a question in my mind of the depth of the coordination. He has sang praises of Putin so he has encouraged the thought Putin interfered in the normal process.

[mchill]

30. Harry Reid pretty much said the Trump Campaign was in collusion

Podesta did too, but since Harry Reid sees the Intelligence, that's good enough for me.

[aikoaiko]

31. I wouldn't be surprised either way.

[Jim Lane]

32. I can't see what they would have needed to coordinate ABOUT.

Consider the prohibited coordination between a campaign and a SuperPAC. What would be valuable would be coordination along the lines of "We think Ohio's in the bag but Virginia's a lost cause, so you should direct your spending to Florida" or "Our polls tell us that a lot of swing voters think climate change is a real problem, so don't touch that issue, it's a loser for us, you should instead emphasize attacking Clinton's character."

In contrast to a SuperPAC, the Russians weren't engaging in any activities of that type. The allegations I've seen are that the Russians hacked emails and released information that would damage Clinton. They wouldn't have needed any explicit directions from the Trump campaign to tell them what to do.

The other side of coordination would be a statement like "Help us beat Clinton and we'll remember your help after January 20." This, too, would be unnecessary. The Russians would know, without being told anything explicit, that they'd have a friend in the White House if Trump won.

[sinkingfeeling]

33. Yes.

[Vinca]

34. The Democrats might not have proof, but the CIA might.

The Manafort connection early on is a big red flag.

[TheBlackAdder]

35. I think this was staged for two years, when he might have been flipped when visiting Russia.

[libtodeath]

36. Not just coordinated but colluded

It is out and out treason.

[dmosh42]

37. Yep, he received financing and owes big time! The ultimate traitor!

[HipChick]

38. If you are a Twitter user, follow @Khanoisseur

He's been laying out the 'Russian connect the dots to Trump'..

[bdamomma]

39. Just some food for thought

Russia has been wanting to groom tRump for a very long time well since 2000?, I can't remember where I read it, but putin wanted a Manchurian candidate and he got one. Maybe that explains why President Obama and putin did not see eye to eye, President Obama did not give him an inch. But now pootie has his lap dog and the USA is out of the way.