Mon Dec 19, 2016, 01:33 PM

ehrnst (32,640 posts)

I don't fucking care where the money comes from - as long as it's legal. We are at war with the GOP

for the future of democracy, and that will take EVERY legal tool/weapon at our disposal.

I want legions of lawyers, ones who will use every trick in the book.

I want private detectives if we need them.

I don't fucking care if the money for it comes from Soros, Gates, "Big pharma," or whatever.

I don't fucking care if it's 'tainted' with corporations. We are not, repeat NOT going to win this thing on $25 donations, especially if people at risk aren't going to have it to spare under Trump.

If we unilaterally disarm financially out of 'disgust' we will lose this country. Appearing to be an "oligarchy party" won't matter if we are under fascist leadership.

As Barney Frank said of taking corporate money for his campaign, then passing regualtions on Wall Street, "Someone can take you to dinner, and you don't have to sleep with them, even if people think you did."

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I don't fucking care where the money comes from - as long as it's legal. We are at war with the GOP (Original post)	ehrnst	Dec 2016	OP
I agree!	get the red out	Dec 2016	#1
Hell to the YES. nt	Maru Kitteh	Dec 2016	#2
I don't want any namby-pamby	Lifelong Protester	Dec 2016	#3
Let alone for a $10 minimum wage when $12 was deemed 'unacceptable' in the primaries. (nt)	ehrnst	Dec 2016	#12
there used to be some good Irish Democrats who got things done.	KittyWampus	Dec 2016	#25
They were the rough and tumble recent immigrants and offspring, the upward strivers.	Hekate	Dec 2016	#33
I agree	oldtime dfl_er	Dec 2016	#4
Yep. We need to not turn our nose up at genuine allies because "oh NOES!! OLIGARCHS!!!" (nt)	ehrnst	Dec 2016	#5
Barney Frank is wrong.	HassleCat	Dec 2016	#6
So why did Barney create Dodd Frank? That weren't dancin with Wall Street. (nt)	ehrnst	Dec 2016	#7
Because he believed Molly, not himself.	HassleCat	Dec 2016	#8
I have no idea what that means. (nt)	ehrnst	Dec 2016	#9
He is saying he is honest.	HassleCat	Dec 2016	#11
Dodd Frank wasn't about campaign finance - but bank regulation. Are you thinking McCain Feingold?	ehrnst	Dec 2016	#14
I am going to be majoring in forensic investigation.	Initech	Dec 2016	#10
Good for you.	Hortensis	Dec 2016	#17
Awesome idea!	Madam45for2923	Dec 2016	#42
There's going to be a need for a lot of accountants the next four years.	Initech	Dec 2016	#43
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Dec 2016	#65
K&R	mcar	Dec 2016	#13
It's only money....	Spitfire of ATJ	Dec 2016	#15
Money gets people on the ground, neutralizing the messaging that the GOP has taken over. (nt)	ehrnst	Dec 2016	#21
There are plenty of examples of someone outspending their opponent and losing.	Spitfire of ATJ	Dec 2016	#44
Yep, but no instances of less money being better at getting the message out. (nt)	ehrnst	Dec 2016	#45
Helps to have one.	Spitfire of ATJ	Dec 2016	#55
She did. (nt)	ehrnst	Dec 2016	#68
I agree	Nwgirl503	Dec 2016	#16
An over-excited moment. Our biggest strength is	Hortensis	Dec 2016	#18
But as we have seen, if there is enough fake news, people don't know that about us.	ehrnst	Dec 2016	#20
The Obamas have it: We go high. People are	Hortensis	Dec 2016	#27
We lost because they had more ammo. They had the Kremlin. They had Comey.	ehrnst	Dec 2016	#35
We need a liberal version of Cambridge Analytica.	Lucky Luciano	Dec 2016	#19
Yes, we need such a tool. And I'm sure that it's available for the right price. (nt)	ehrnst	Dec 2016	#22
Let me just say	Uponthegears	Dec 2016	#23
Those swastikas and confederate flags were about Wall Street and corporations?	ehrnst	Dec 2016	#34
Post removed	Post removed	Dec 2016	#40
I'm "insulting every black voter that worked for Bernie?"	ehrnst	Dec 2016	#48
DNC must start to rebuild from,,,	Cryptoad	Dec 2016	#24
Does that money buy the courage	Mira	Dec 2016	#26
I gives you the ability to act on that courage. I saw lots of it this election. (nt)	ehrnst	Dec 2016	#29
No, it means Wall Street gets its way on legislation.	alarimer	Dec 2016	#36
well the reckoning is here with us, now.	JHan	Dec 2016	#54
...agreed except Big Pharma	covadcalifornia	Dec 2016	#28
There are many reasons that an insurance company jacks up prices	ehrnst	Dec 2016	#32
You can't fight nuclear weapons with BB guns...	Alice11111	Dec 2016	#30
Amen.	Hekate	Dec 2016	#31
It's an awful system but we can't change it until we get power.	spooky3	Dec 2016	#37
If we are literally at war with a pending fascist dictatorship...	First Speaker	Dec 2016	#38
When one is speaking about things publicly	ehrnst	Dec 2016	#47
Don't Play The Game	Equinox Moon	Dec 2016	#39
I'm talking about a campaign - not where you put your checking account. (nt)	ehrnst	Dec 2016	#46
Hillary had plenty of money and lost anyway.	Equinox Moon	Dec 2016	#49
How would having less money have been an advantage?	ehrnst	Dec 2016	#50
Ok. I understand.	Equinox Moon	Dec 2016	#58
By less than 80,000 votes in the Electoral College. If Comey hadn't dropped	pnwmom	Dec 2016	#61
Don't fly on airplanes, change your lifestyle? Spoken like someone	pnwmom	Dec 2016	#60
I do call it radical.	Equinox Moon	Dec 2016	#62
Family members are on the west coast, on the east coast, and in between. No, moving	pnwmom	Dec 2016	#64
Why am I not supposed to fly on airplanes again?	Imajika	Dec 2016	#66
I think I need to write a paper on this to be better understood.	Equinox Moon	Dec 2016	#67
I said not to bring a knife to a gun fight during the primary.... but nope....	SaschaHM	Dec 2016	#41
If you are referring to the Democratic primaries	ehrnst	Dec 2016	#51
No.. there was a huge argument about political funding and how	SaschaHM	Dec 2016	#56
Where do you stand on setting people up with hookers? n/t	rzemanfl	Dec 2016	#52
Don't need more money	Truth321	Dec 2016	#53
Yes, let's ally with the noble blue corporatists to defeat the evil red corporatists	LittleBlue	Dec 2016	#57
Funny thing about Soros...	backscatter712	Dec 2016	#59
Tell it to the "We need to get away from big donors" crowd. (nt)	ehrnst	Dec 2016	#69
Time to organize.	littlemissmartypants	Dec 2016	#63

Response to ehrnst (Original post)

Mon Dec 19, 2016, 01:36 PM

get the red out (13,439 posts)

1. I agree!

The corruption, and oppression, we are about to experience from Trump will dwarf any kind of normal, corporate sleaziness.

I don't fucking care where the money comes from - as long as it's legal. We are at war with the GOP

1. I agree!

2. Hell to the YES. nt

3. I don't want any namby-pamby

12. Let alone for a $10 minimum wage when $12 was deemed 'unacceptable' in the primaries. (nt)

25. there used to be some good Irish Democrats who got things done.

33. They were the rough and tumble recent immigrants and offspring, the upward strivers.

4. I agree

5. Yep. We need to not turn our nose up at genuine allies because "oh NOES!! OLIGARCHS!!!" (nt)

6. Barney Frank is wrong.

7. So why did Barney create Dodd Frank? That weren't dancin with Wall Street. (nt)

8. Because he believed Molly, not himself.

9. I have no idea what that means. (nt)

11. He is saying he is honest.

14. Dodd Frank wasn't about campaign finance - but bank regulation. Are you thinking McCain Feingold?

10. I am going to be majoring in forensic investigation.

17. Good for you.

42. Awesome idea!

43. There's going to be a need for a lot of accountants the next four years.

13. K&R

15. It's only money....

21. Money gets people on the ground, neutralizing the messaging that the GOP has taken over. (nt)

44. There are plenty of examples of someone outspending their opponent and losing.

45. Yep, but no instances of less money being better at getting the message out. (nt)

55. Helps to have one.

68. She did. (nt)

16. I agree

18. An over-excited moment. Our biggest strength is

20. But as we have seen, if there is enough fake news, people don't know that about us.

27. The Obamas have it: We go high. People are

35. We lost because they had more ammo. They had the Kremlin. They had Comey.

19. We need a liberal version of Cambridge Analytica.

22. Yes, we need such a tool. And I'm sure that it's available for the right price. (nt)

23. Let me just say

34. Those swastikas and confederate flags were about Wall Street and corporations?

48. I'm "insulting every black voter that worked for Bernie?"

24. DNC must start to rebuild from,,,

26. Does that money buy the courage

29. I gives you the ability to act on that courage. I saw lots of it this election. (nt)

36. No, it means Wall Street gets its way on legislation.

54. well the reckoning is here with us, now.

28. ...agreed except Big Pharma

32. There are many reasons that an insurance company jacks up prices

30. You can't fight nuclear weapons with BB guns...

31. Amen.

37. It's an awful system but we can't change it until we get power.

38. If we are literally at war with a pending fascist dictatorship...

47. When one is speaking about things publicly

39. Don't Play The Game

46. I'm talking about a campaign - not where you put your checking account. (nt)

49. Hillary had plenty of money and lost anyway.

50. How would having less money have been an advantage?

58. Ok. I understand.

61. By less than 80,000 votes in the Electoral College. If Comey hadn't dropped

60. Don't fly on airplanes, change your lifestyle? Spoken like someone

62. I do call it radical.

64. Family members are on the west coast, on the east coast, and in between. No, moving

66. Why am I not supposed to fly on airplanes again?

67. I think I need to write a paper on this to be better understood.

41. I said not to bring a knife to a gun fight during the primary.... but nope....

51. If you are referring to the Democratic primaries

56. No.. there was a huge argument about political funding and how

52. Where do you stand on setting people up with hookers? n/t

53. Don't need more money

57. Yes, let's ally with the noble blue corporatists to defeat the evil red corporatists

59. Funny thing about Soros...

69. Tell it to the "We need to get away from big donors" crowd. (nt)

63. Time to organize.