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Don Seigelman!
The man has been in jail for purely political BS charges because of Karl Fucking Rove and his Alabama gang of sleazebags were in a position to "get" a democrat. It is an embarrassment that we even have to ask people to call the White House and demand that Don is released and pardon for his "non-crime."

50 Shades Of Blue
(11,095 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)k and r
LearnedHand
(4,589 posts)sagetea
(1,493 posts)Indeed!!!!
Ho'
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pkdu
(3,977 posts)MFM008
(20,039 posts)Dramatic. That's sooooooooooo not Obama.
no_hypocrisy
(50,945 posts)Signed right before the Inauguration. Full pardon.
MFM008
(20,039 posts)a lot of pardons. Including drugs and other stupid stuff.
They would still be talking about it in 20 years and it would take attention off the maggot.
here's to hope.
Quackers
(2,256 posts)Obama has chose to ignore this all these years. I don't see him changing his mind especially since Don will be getting out soon.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)more than all past presidents combined.
He wouldn't even need a full pardon, just clemency for time served to get him out of jail? Someone has to do the paperwork.
Hulk
(6,699 posts)Shit...if Oliver North and libby can be exonerated, then neither of these pardons should be out of bounds...
former9thward
(33,424 posts)An appeals court threw out his convictions.
Hulk
(6,699 posts)But the end result is the same. When guilty sons of bitches can walk free and even garner respect of peoples, when they are bonified criminals, seems like giving the same opportunity to those of lesser offences is certainly in order.
Just saying...
former9thward
(33,424 posts)And he should be freed.
cstanleytech
(27,498 posts)pardoned rather he was granted clemency.
Mind you I think Libby was only granted clemency because he took a bullet that would have sunk Bush and or Cheney and caused criminal charges to be filed against atleast one of them but the fact still remains that he was not pardoned.
As for Siegelman I dont think Obama will pardon him, clemency? Maybe, pardon? Nope, I just dont see it happening though I could be wrong of course about it.
bpj62
(1,044 posts)Scooter Libby was never parndoned either. His,sentnce,was,comnuted by Bush. It was a bone of contention between the older Bush and Cheney. Bush 1 felt that Cheney and Libby had betrayed the intelligence community with the outing of Valerie Plame. Cheney didnt care and wanted Libby pardoned. Its one of the few times that Bush 2 did something right.
PatSeg
(49,995 posts)I have signed every petition I've come across over the years. This is outrageous.
kacekwl
(8,128 posts)Obama won't do it.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Kelsey Stein April 13, 2016
More than 100 former state attorneys general this week sent a letter to President Barack Obama seeking a pardon for former Alabama Gov. Don Siegelman.
Siegelman, now 70, was convicted by a federal court in 2006 on bribery, conspiracy and obstruction of justice charges after being accused of appointing former HealthSouth CEO Richard Scrushy to a health planning board in return for a $500,000 donation to the governor's campaign for a statewide lottery.
Former New York Attorney General Bob Abrams told the Associated Press that they believe his conviction was unjust and tarnished by politics.
"Although nine years have passed, Gov. Siegelman's unjust conviction continues to eat away at the integrity of the justice system," it reads. "Many legal scholars as well as the public at large believe that the prosecution of Gov. Siegelman was a perversion of justice."
The letter was delivered to the White House on Wednesday. ............
Anatomy of a Stolen Election
panader0
(25,816 posts)no_hypocrisy
(50,945 posts)Among other obvious reasons, Don Siegelman will be denied the right to vote as a former ex-felon if he isn't pardoned.
panader0
(25,816 posts)His impending release may be a reason why a pardon may not be granted.
no_hypocrisy
(50,945 posts)I think Obama would restore Don's life, voting rights, and reputation with a pardon. It's not the release. It's the exoneration.
cstanleytech
(27,498 posts)All a pardon will do is let him vote and run for office I assume but it wont provide him what he deserves which is a judge to say the case was BS and to vacate the conviction.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)and a person has a right to refuse to accept a pardon on that basis.
MADem
(135,425 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)cstanleytech
(27,498 posts)most people currently in prison not unless of course the person they are pardoning and or granting clemency to might have something on the President granting the pardon and or the clemency which then provides a President like Bush a hell of an incentive to grant one.
Tarc
(10,590 posts)barbtries
(30,279 posts)that he is still behind bars is so unbelievable
liberalla
(10,377 posts)i really hope so too. i don't understand why he hasn't done so already.
guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)would this eliminate an endless series of House investigations?
And I am not implying that Clinton is guilty of anything, but in the interest of eliminating one GOP distraction......
elleng
(139,031 posts)that's keeping it this way.
Botany
(73,691 posts)Don Seigelman is a political prisoner.
librechik
(30,818 posts)and it ain't Obama.
radical noodle
(9,779 posts)DNA evidence has proven him to be innocent of a crime he spent 10 years in jail for, but Pence won't pardon him.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2016/1008/Why-Mike-Pence-won-t-grant-pardon-to-exonerated-Indiana-man
MADem
(135,425 posts)Obama cannot reach down and meddle in the affairs of states. His jurisdiction does not extend there.
He can only pardon FEDERAL criminals.
bonniebgood
(954 posts)Ted Stevens was pardon, charges dropped so Quickly under the Obamas Justice Department?
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)radical noodle
(9,779 posts)tomp
(9,512 posts)there were two things I wanted from obama: prosecute bush/cheney, inc, and pardon Leonard Peltier (also a political prisoner).
the first never happened. if the second never happens, obama will have been a complete failure to me.
bonniebgood
(954 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)I do hope so and if he can't it will be a prime example of the lie that our republic is a democracy where our vote determines the POTUS. Our vote only counts to allow the real PTB to install who they need at the time, to "shake things up".
BobTheSubgenius
(11,945 posts)It is LONG past time for him to be not only released, but pardoned!
subterranean
(3,591 posts)I believe he is due to be released in February anyway, so I can't understand why Obama wouldn't pardon him.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Here is the Justice Department's press release on the re-sentencing...
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-alabama-governor-don-siegelman-re-sentenced-bribery-conspiracy-fraud-and-obstruction
Crash2Parties
(6,017 posts)She's going to die in there, that seems to be the goal of her jailers, and none of the war crimes she revealed have even been investigated.