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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAt what point will the media "turn" on Trump?
The same media that inexplicably forgave him of all his sins through the primaries and through the general. The same media that ran with every innuendo and false accusation against HRC. The same media that expressed disbelief that (gag) "President Trump" was even a thing.
The fears we expressed here, not even partisan fears, but fears predicated on the corruption, the inexperience, the petulance of the man-child Donald Trump, are manifesting themselves already, as he transitions from game show campaign to reality show presidency. We tried to warn others, but the media, the GD media, lent a deaf ear.
They are now accessories to a crime.
When will they alter their rhetoric and call Trump out for what he truly is: a menace to the USA, a wannabe dictator who places the delicate balance of world peace in jeopardy by his very presence.
Soon? Please?
stopbush
(24,396 posts)If a campaign based on lies and make believe was entertaining, imagine what it's going to be like once Trump's policies kick in and we're rounding up Muslims and heading off to a new war in the Middle East.
The only question the media will be asking is "are we being supportive enough of Trump's 'bold' new plans?"
phallon
(260 posts)get the red out
(13,462 posts)are threatened by Trumps minions. Will journalists be willing to put their lives, and even their family's lives, on the line?
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)Yeah, the USA is no more.
get the red out
(13,462 posts)Seems pretty grim unless many members of the MSM fight Trump at the same time.
FarPoint
(12,351 posts)Media is bought and paid for information..... Corporate monopoly.
phallon
(260 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,683 posts)cable news - not so much.
mainer
(12,022 posts)So has Mother Jones and New Yorker. Heck, even the Wall Street Journal is doing some good work. The mainstream press has been right on top of Trump's craziness. The problem is, Red State voters don't trust any of these outlets, and go for the fake news instead.
I tweeted that everyone should subscribe to the Times, and got attacked for my "poor judgment in trusting that liberal rag."
dhol82
(9,353 posts)It happened to be from CNN. I said he might be interested in the information.
I got an email back saying, 'I don't trust the Clinton News Network.'
He didn't even read a neutral article that is totally relevant to the weird stuff he sends out.
How do you fight deliberate ignorance like that?
By the way, I then told that if he sent me any more political stuff that I would have to sever our friendship of many years.
He acknowledged my request and that's where it lies.
We'll see if he can hold himself back.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... make it part of a rally call IMHO
onecaliberal
(32,852 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)they fell into german lockstep/nazi salute many, many months ago and went on to help this fascist, racist, sexist, mysogynist sex criminal gain the most powerful position in the world. Who could figure 61+million voters could be that brainwashed, the PTB did. The MSM did, especially Joe Scarborough, Fox News, pre threat megyn kelley. Please, complicity will be their middle name in all that happens in the next 2 to 4 years.
I also will NEVER forgive the rather large numbers of latinos, AA, Asians and muslims that voted for this POS because they were too believing of MSM and lacked critical thinking, deductive reasoning skill. 61+ million dumbed down ameriKKKans and their minority surrogates. Fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)The news media created drumpf for ratings, why would they turn on him now?
Just think of the ratings following Il Douche's Deportation force around as they kick down doors and snatch screaming children away from their parents in the dead of night and send them to concentration camps.
Or the all time high ratings when Herr Drumpf wages nuclear war on Iran, for starters.
Mushroom clouds = BIG ratings!
GeorgeGist
(25,320 posts)Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)We have to extract the profit motive from the press. The tax code needs to be changed to permit media outlets to run as non-profits. We need to be able to distinguish news/facts from spin/opinion.
Otherwise, we might as well flush the first amendment down the potty.
JustAnotherGen
(31,818 posts)TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)All this media bashing sounds just like the alt right loons.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)By Margaret Sullivan Media Columnist October 2
Looking for someone specific to hold responsible for the improbable rise of Donald Trump?
Although there are many options, you could do worse than to take a hard look at Jeff Zucker, president of CNN Worldwide.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/jeff-zuckers-singular-role-in-promoting-donald-trumps-rise/2016/10/02/7c3d4366-865b-11e6-a3ef-f35afb41797f_story.html
TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)They never ever never should of hired Lewandowski. First time I saw him on the air I gave my TV a side eye. Total conflict.
I also understand that this is TV and it's driven by ratings and ad revenue and it's no secret that Trashpot is "good" TV. There are PLENTY of times that I disagree with an anchor, or I yell why didn't you ask this...or why did you let that go??
So who at CNN do you think (besides Zucker) outright campaigned for Trashpot and was "for" him?
onecaliberal
(32,852 posts)negative. He was NEVER EVER fully vetted.
TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)for over a week....nothing can stop the blob....this orange blob.
onecaliberal
(32,852 posts)But you seem okay with that. Enjoy the dust bin.
TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)spanone
(135,830 posts)TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)spanone
(135,830 posts)Of all the ways Donald Trump has shocked the political system, one of the most significant is how he wins primary after primary with one of the smallest campaign budgets.
He still doesnt have a super PAC. He skimped on ground organization and field offices. Most important, he spent less on television advertising typically the single biggest expenditure for a campaign than any other major candidate, according to an analysis by SMG Delta, a firm that tracks television advertising.
But Mr. Trump is hardly absent from the airwaves. Like all candidates, he benefits from what is known as earned media: news and commentary about his campaign on television, in newspapers and magazines, and on social media. Earned media typically dwarfs paid media in a campaign. The big difference between Mr. Trump and other candidates is that he is far better than any other candidate maybe than any candidate ever at earning media.
No one knows this better than mediaQuant, a firm that tracks media coverage of each candidate and computes a dollar value based on advertising rates. The mentions are weighted by the reach of the media source, meaning how many people were likely to see it. The calculation also includes traditional media of all types, print, broadcast or otherwise, as well as online-only sources like Facebook, Twitter or Reddit.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/16/upshot/measuring-donald-trumps-mammoth-advantage-in-free-media.html
TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)should of TURNED OFF the American voter...not turned them on....so what the hell does that say?
spanone
(135,830 posts)tried and true.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Hekate
(90,674 posts)...outlets? I'll believe it when I see it.
still_one
(92,187 posts)cilla4progress
(24,728 posts)fascism.
2naSalit
(86,579 posts)gwheezie
(3,580 posts)Trump may seem like a petty narcissist attacking the nyt & media but he's deliberately trying to put any opposition or neutral media out of business. And dismissing any reporting they do. Don't read it, don't buy it.
But at some point, it will be profitable to bash trump. When they do though it will be more like click bait trivia and not real news.
I think we need to put our $ where the truth is and subscribe to news that is giving trump an honest critical examination and reporting it.
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)They have already abdicated their responsibility to the public.
UTTER FAILURE.
Vinca
(50,269 posts)The media wants access to the horror show so they have to keep their noses up the orange bum.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)They are turning this country into a bigger and bigger cesspool everyday and as long as they profit - as long as that orange turd gets more publicity - this will never stop. Not until it starts eating them alive and I hope it does. Sooner or later they will start turning on each other. It may take a while, but one day it will all cave in on them. I just hope to be around to see it.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,956 posts)From what I hear he's stepping precariously close to that edge.