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mahina

(17,637 posts)
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 04:19 PM Nov 2016

Do you think Republican electors could still elect Hillary?

We have two electors who publicly stated that they would go 'faithless'.

Most Republicans in the real world can see the nightmare a trump in the White House would be.

What are the chances, and your thoughts?

Grasping at straws, I realize, but I have to get to sleep somehow.


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Possible
2 (10%)
Impossible
6 (30%)
Maybe one or two or just a few but not enough to make a change
10 (50%)
HELL yeah, let's start writing to them now. How do we find their contact info?
1 (5%)
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CaliforniaPeggy

(149,560 posts)
1. This is an unrealistic pipe dream. I'm sorry to throw cold water on you, but it's not happening.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 04:25 PM
Nov 2016

You will have to learn to live with reality, extremely unpleasant as it is.

mahina

(17,637 posts)
4. Thanks sis. I am, but my mind seeks cracks in the wall.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 04:37 PM
Nov 2016

I read you.

Maybe we could raise some money for DU with a pool.

Back to work with me!

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
3. The names of those electors are on the ballots in most states.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 04:26 PM
Nov 2016

They could actually be taking their lives in their hands if they did that.

mopinko

(70,067 posts)
5. sure, it's possible.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 04:53 PM
Nov 2016

highly, highly improbable.

but who knows. maybe a couple dozen of them do see that if the electoral college were ever going to do it's job, now is the time. they might well be the last electors. they should be if they dont act. maybe some of them see it that way.

 

ericson00

(2,707 posts)
6. if Trump has a Watergate before 12/19, which given how unpredictable things now are,
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 05:02 PM
Nov 2016

and opinion polls in WI, PA, and MI have figures like, >50% regret that Trump won their state, like 70%, Nixonesque numbers, or something comes out that pressures Trump to relinquish his claim to the POTUSy, then its a possibility. It would have to be a nuclear bombshell, like iron clad proof that Russia elected it.

That Hillary won the popular vote is the only reason this is a remote possibility.

MANative

(4,112 posts)
7. That orange turd could be caught with his hands around the neck of a dead six year old boy
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 05:23 PM
Nov 2016

and he still would manage to keep the support of the thugs who want to pillage our nation.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
8. I think it's not completely beyond the realm of possibility
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 05:31 PM
Nov 2016

But, I think it would be really bad for us nationally. Hillary would live a nightmare trying to govern under those cirumstances. It would normalize the way Obama was treated.

athena

(4,187 posts)
12. It would still be better than handing the country over to Trump.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 05:48 PM
Nov 2016

Trump is not fit to be president. If he takes over the presidency, Ryan and his friends will manipulate him like a puppet. It's much better to have four years of inaction than four years of disaster.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
14. I'm not talking about what it has been like fore that last 8 yrs
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 05:54 PM
Nov 2016

I'm talking about a major tea party style uprising. It would be a 2018 republican sweep where they would have veto proof majorities. To completely negate election results would backfire bigtime. It's an especially bad time to do it when there is a growing movement to abolish the electoral college. Exploiting it and calling to abolish it is pure hypocrisy.

athena

(4,187 posts)
15. You make a good point.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 06:02 PM
Nov 2016

I hadn't thought of it that way. Unfortunately, what this means is that we will have four years of Trump and Pence (I predict six months of Trump, followed by 3.5 years of Pence), during which unthinkable horrors will inevitably come to pass. I remember people saying, sixteen years ago, that four years of W wouldn't be so bad. Then 9/11 happened.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
16. It makes my stomach turn
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 06:09 PM
Nov 2016

And there is no way I will get over it, ever. But, I just think we have to always be mindful of unintended consequences.

athena

(4,187 posts)
10. This is exactly what the Electoral College is for.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 05:46 PM
Nov 2016

We have the Electoral College for a reason. It is there to prevent a candidate from winning the presidency through demagoguery and lies. It is there so that if the public elects someone who would be a danger to the country's well being, the Electoral College can override the public's decision and put in place a more reasonable person as president.

If the Electoral College does not do its job now, what exactly is its purpose? It makes no sense for the Electoral College to override the popular vote in order to put in place a person who will place this country in dire danger.

Please sign the petition:
https://www.change.org/p/electoral-college-electors-electoral-college-make-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
18. Nonsense
Thu Nov 17, 2016, 10:38 AM
Nov 2016

The Electoral College is in place so 12 counties cannot decide every presidential race.

randr

(12,409 posts)
17. The EC may be our only safeguard for a botched election
Thu Nov 17, 2016, 10:24 AM
Nov 2016

Given the questionable involvement of a foreign government and our own FBI tactics to disrupt our election I would hope someone would raise the possibility that maybe the election was invalid.
Do I think this would happen? Not in a world that would consider DT the leader our the free world.

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