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Bucky

(54,005 posts)
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 06:21 PM Oct 2016

I am shocked there's an October surprise targeting Clinton. But I am not surprised.

To everyone who called me a concern troll, fuck you. I was right to worry.

I will now do my superior dance and go volunteer at the GOTV phone bank

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I am shocked there's an October surprise targeting Clinton. But I am not surprised. (Original Post) Bucky Oct 2016 OP
It's not much of a surprise, though. Looks like kind of a dud. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2016 #1
It is going to do damage especially the down-ballot races which Krugman & some others think he might EV_Ares Oct 2016 #2
Wait and see, but I think not. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2016 #3
Come on..This a vote for sanity or insanity busterbrown Oct 2016 #4
Well, was watching our local news & it is like this thing was ready to go. Even some of the Dems EV_Ares Oct 2016 #5
Really! You think this story might change minds.. busterbrown Oct 2016 #6
Hey, who knows, all I know is what was on the news & it was being reported as it was. Switching, EV_Ares Oct 2016 #7
what state? may i ask and who is trying to distance themselves.. busterbrown Oct 2016 #8
Look, you can argue with someone else. You have a right to your opinion of what this will EV_Ares Oct 2016 #9
Sorry...Not trying to argue with you.. busterbrown Oct 2016 #11
Well, thank you for your thoughts. EV_Ares Oct 2016 #12
Yea, I feel bad for attacking like that.. busterbrown Oct 2016 #15
I don't think most here on DU have any trouble being strong & it does not help when DUers attack EV_Ares Oct 2016 #16
This calculated announcement was carefully orchestrated Generic Brad Oct 2016 #10
Exactly & it has to be done soon & they have to hit back as hard as they can. EV_Ares Oct 2016 #13
Not much of a surprise. And it turns out to be nothing much at all. KittyWampus Oct 2016 #14
 

EV_Ares

(6,587 posts)
2. It is going to do damage especially the down-ballot races which Krugman & some others think he might
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 06:27 PM
Oct 2016

have been trying to help.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,690 posts)
3. Wait and see, but I think not.
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 06:28 PM
Oct 2016

Most people have already made up their minds; as "scandals" go this is nothing at all. I expect it to fade away within a few days once the hyperventilating media figure out that there's no there there.

http://reverbpress.com/news/5-facts-killed-new-hillary-email-scandal-less-afternoon/

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
4. Come on..This a vote for sanity or insanity
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 07:05 PM
Oct 2016

No ones changing their minds because if this.. If they said they did.. They are plain out lying

 

EV_Ares

(6,587 posts)
5. Well, was watching our local news & it is like this thing was ready to go. Even some of the Dems
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 07:39 PM
Oct 2016

were trying to distance themselves from Clinton or whatever. Repubs seemed to have their ads ready to go or were quick in getting them. They were talking to voters, some who was even trying to decide to vote or not when one lady said when she heard about the investigation being reopened, she went ahead to early voting.

That if all of it is true what they say falls in like with what Krugman saying, he did not think it was as much of a ploy to help Trump as it was for the down-ballot races & some close battleground states.

Who knows, you may be right, hope so but it is not good & I hope like hell the Dems & Hillary have something to counter this.

This was totally despicable of Comy & the Dept of Justice should look into it.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
6. Really! You think this story might change minds..
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 07:46 PM
Oct 2016

My God.. Anyone who switches to Trump because of this nothing piece of crap story?
Never was going to vote for Clinton in the 1st place..

Counter this? For God Sakes Donald Trump is the counter point.. No more needs to be said.

 

EV_Ares

(6,587 posts)
7. Hey, who knows, all I know is what was on the news & it was being reported as it was. Switching,
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 07:49 PM
Oct 2016

energizing Trump voters who were not going to vote or republicans who were going to sit it out

Who knows, but even Krugman & others are saying they think the main thing was for it to work for down-ballot, not so much Trump.

As for this being a piece of crap story, I agree but that is the problem it is not getting told as a piece of crap story & some will never get the real facts of it. They knew that as Comy should have known that when they put it out.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
8. what state? may i ask and who is trying to distance themselves..
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 07:51 PM
Oct 2016

Sounds like right wing talking points.. On a local fox station

 

EV_Ares

(6,587 posts)
9. Look, you can argue with someone else. You have a right to your opinion of what this will
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 07:57 PM
Oct 2016

do and I have the same right.

It was Kansas City & it is not frigging right-wing talking points.

It was CBS, NBC, ABC, Local networks whoever the hell you want.

Yeah, probably the local fox station as well. You don't know what kind of an effect for sure this is going to have & I don't either, can only speculate with the information at hand.



busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
11. Sorry...Not trying to argue with you..
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 08:16 PM
Oct 2016

I appreciate and respect Dems who live in a deep Red State..

I’ll say this however, there can really is no middle between Trump and Clinton.
They are as different as day and night.. People who say they are going to switch to Trump because of
email screw ups are just plain lying.. They were never gonna vote Clinton in the 1st place.. Just looking for an excuse..

I only can wish that i could talk to some republican constituents in your area.Ask them exactly what Hillary did wrong with regards to her server and how she put our country in harms way...They have no idea how to answer this question.. But ill tell you this.. The State Dept and the CIA are constantly at odds with each other on what emails should be marked confidential..Obviously there were no emails which Clinton forwarded in her private server which put the US in harms way.



 

EV_Ares

(6,587 posts)
16. I don't think most here on DU have any trouble being strong & it does not help when DUers attack
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 09:27 AM
Oct 2016

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others because they may not agree with them. I as others have a right to my opinion & need no pity for being In a red state. Actually, the suburb & county I am from is Johnson County, KS across the state line & Hillary is leading Trump there by 10 points. Since graduating from the University have not lived there but still visit friends & family.

Don't worry, they are all doing OK even though they have to live in a red state.

Also, as people were saying on the news & with what is being reported today of which I was trying to tell you that Comey's move would affect down-ballot races. It is happening.

GOP Senate hope brightens on FBI news, Politico & other sources. Not a told you so & I would think you & I are on the same side but DU does have those who always want to jump on someone to either flat out be critical of their assessment of something their opinion & just take the opposite side for whatever reason & as others have said, it does get tiresome sometimes

That said, the next time I see you this will be forgotten & we can start over.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
10. This calculated announcement was carefully orchestrated
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 08:08 PM
Oct 2016

Timing is everything.

But 11 days before the election? Really? It's not like a treasure trove of Trump on audio and video doing and saying wildly inappropriate things does not exist. That allows just way too much time for much of that to surface with no time for him to respond.

This is the GOP's final Hail Mary. After this they have nothing. This reeks of impotent desperation. The best possible outcome they could hope for is to harm the reputation and career of someone close to Mrs. Clinton. This is not to win a path to the presidency for Trump. This is a direct attempt to cause harm to someone closest to Hillary Clinton and injure her by proxy. It is petty, personal, and out of bounds.

Time to unleash the Kraken and destroy what little wind in the sails the SS Trump hoped to gain from this.

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