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http://americannewsx.com/politics/read-donald-wedding-caterer-will-make-sick/Everything went beautifully the food was a hit, the waiters/waitresses all were totally professional. Everything was first rate.
Donald Trump refused to pay the bill. He told the caterer, I know you are new at this, and when you tell people you catered MY wedding, you will get more business than you could ever dream of. So I am doing you a favor. And when I do favors, I dont pay. End of discussion.
She couldnt believe it she sent numerous bills ignored. She threatened to sue he said Go ahead. I dont lose in court. She explored suing, but came away knowing it would cost her high legal bills, and wouldnt be worth it. After more than six months of his stonewalling she ended up paying her staff out of her own pocket, though couldnt pay them fully or shed be out of business. So Trump stiffed not only her, but her staff, her chefs, her busboys.
unblock
(52,253 posts)well, except that he burns customers too.
and creditors.
TheBlackAdder
(28,209 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)He's a sorry ass bastard
The last thing we need as President
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,007 posts)avebury
(10,952 posts)They just need a good lawyer(s) and has the time and inclination to take this project one. I'd like to see a lawyer(s) who is financially stable enough to do it pro bono because this kind of case is the right thing to take on. These people/companies have already been burnt enough as it is.
KewlKat
(5,624 posts)suit. See how many we get and then see what legal counsel might be interested in taking trump on?
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)Why he didn't choose other, more prominent caterers. He'd already burned through them.
And, back then, you didn't check references when the Donald hired you. One assumed he was good for it.
Sorry way to learn that lesson.
PatSeg
(47,501 posts)That pattern seems to be evident throughout his career. I'm surprised this practice of stiffing people hadn't caught up with him before. One of the sucky things about running for president is it sheds sunlight on all areas of one's life. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
Hugin
(33,164 posts)It's his MO.
Snarkoleptic
(5,997 posts)He seems to use it as a personal playground for bullying and we are all paying the yuuuge tab.
napi21
(45,806 posts)the tax code that enable him & people like him to not OWE any taxes. If course there's the possibility that he's cheating on his taxes, but the IRS will catch that, since they audit him every year. Even if he's cheating, the loopholes he takes advantage of make it legal to skate free of taxes.
It's THOSE loopholes that need to be closed and most likely a big part of Hillary's "make the wealthy pay more" program.
mainer
(12,022 posts)and they're all coming out now.
mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)That will seriously hurt his businesses after he loses.
These stories need to come out by the thousand... WITH ALL OF THE CONTRACTORS HE'S DEALT WITH OVER THE YEARS?
In the 90's both my husband and I were self employed as independent contractors- he a landscape design/build and me as an interior muralist. We dealt with almost exclusively wealthy clients, and most of them stiffed us for at least 10% of the bill. Some claimed they were unsatisfied on some way or another (bullshit) but most just made us chase them for the money. They had it all worked out. Most of the time the amount was between one thousand and three thousand dollars, so they had it gamed out that we could not afford to take time off from work to go to small claims court or to hire a lawyer to handle our claims. I t would cost more money than we would gain. That was the grift.
We were working very close to the bone, so we liked to add a little thing we liked to call the AHSC to all of our bids. We jacked the final bid amount by 15% and called it the asshole sur-charge.
I can easily imagine a GIANT ASSHOLE like Trump not paying anyone and getting away with it.
dembotoz
(16,808 posts)the old saying the sale is not complete until the check clears.....
you understand those who do not pay due to going bankrupt....shit happens
we see it over and over again with trump...standard operating procedure
he is a thug...that damn simple
Zoonart
(11,869 posts)It was the bankruptcy of a Fortune 500 wunderkind that took down my husband's business in 1989.
Stuck us for $250,000.00. Had to borrow $50,000 from my parents to pay employee taxes. It was humiliating and financially disastrous because we had to pay back the loan with 6% interest.
Yeah... the 2008 recession was not our first time at the rodeo.
I keep trying to impress on my younger relatives that the corrupt, self-serving, me first culture of the 1% is disastrous for small business and, by extension, America.
Donald Trump is their poster boy.
notKeith
(138 posts)You try to sue Donald Trump, he kills you with legal costs, stonewalling, etc. with his merry band of lawyers.
You can't create a class-action lawsuit against big banks if they should, oh, I dunno.. create fake accounts in your name. Fine print (generally) says "arbitration" - which also means the bank gets the lawyers, and can hold you accountable for legal fees. Elizabeth Warren should take a baseball bat to both of these shenanigans. (And maybe she has already; the CFPB has proposed rules to make such bank contracts illegal.)
calimary
(81,322 posts)It's a sleazy way to do business. What's really shameful is the attitude of those who can WELL afford to pay the invoices and fulfill their end of the bargain, who stiff those who obviously don't have comparable financial means. It's truly shameful.
They_Live
(3,236 posts)and have experienced being shorted by some wealthy clients myself. They will even do it at a small level, like completely shorting waitresses of their tip or leaving a 5% tip.
"...that's how I stay so rich!"
greatauntoftriplets
(175,742 posts)Moostache
(9,895 posts)Let's see what happens, right Yam?
DinahMoeHum
(21,794 posts). . .for a business rendered to him. If not, then NO DICE.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Shows what kind of person he is.
Stuart G
(38,436 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,235 posts)lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)lillypaddle
(9,580 posts)this man is unbelievably cruel. Hope he burns in hell.
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)JHB
(37,161 posts)Once he has what he wants from you, you're "fired". He doesn't need you, and good luck getting what you he owes you.
Once he has your vote, he has what he wants from you...
Good luck. You'll need it. We'll all need it.
BSdetect
(8,998 posts)What about all the idiots who still think he can run the country as POTUS?
They are the scary ones.
The GOP has shown that it is completely gutless when it comes to decent principles.
His lies have become so prevalent that they continue to spread them daily.
Talking points are transparent if your IQ is slightly higher than your age.
Problem is.....
spiderpig
(10,419 posts)How did this amoral creature get within cheating distance of the White House?
I just can't sometimes.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)My concern is the lack of intelligence and empathy for others that obviously characterizes the Trump enthusiasts. I feel that Trump will either squeeze out a win or be buried in a landslide. The former would be the final gasp of our nation. The rest of the world couldn't understand Dubya becoming POTUS. Trump would finish off any respect the rest of the world has for our citizens.
MH1
(17,600 posts)I've been saying for a long time, that what scares and appalls me is the level of support he is getting. Sure, there will be awful people like Trump. It happens. But to get the kind of support he's getting? To be the major party nominee for President of the U.S.? That's just jaw-droppingly horrifying.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)How can someone who treats people with such contempt possibly be fit for public office. He is such a f***king asshole! I have never seen anything like it!
spanone
(135,844 posts)i hope someone is amassing these stories, they're coming in from all corners
DLevine
(1,788 posts)If it was Hillary, that's almost all they would talk about. The double standard is outrageous.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)the media, is just unbelievable. This effing shitgibbon needs to be exposed for exactly what he is.
duncang
(1,907 posts)Needs to trend on twitter next time a story on him not paying people hits the cable news. Right now he is roasting his self on Miss Universe.
druidity33
(6,446 posts)LynneSin
(95,337 posts)in a crate to the roof of their car.
I mean I thought that was wretchedly horrible.
Romney looks like a freaking saint compared to Trump.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)Trump's is lower than that! And at least Romney gave his own money away to charity!
Beartracks
(12,816 posts)I don't think Trump's even in the pool.
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Lefthacker
(264 posts)Can use this story in a couple different ways during the next debate. When the topic of jobs and small businesses comes up she can really let the asshole have it. Or, when dumbass goes on his incoherent rant about NATO countries not paying their fair share Hillary could simply say "Donald you should know about not paying a fair share". She could then relate these stories about him not paying.
Bear Creek
(883 posts)Business model used by more than Trump. Corporations also have the habit of over charging customers by small amount. Times by hundreds or thousands. Most people will not sue because a lawyer costs more than the amount they overcharged. Credit cards apply payments after the due dates so they can make late fees. Insurance companies hold checks that should be sent out after you make a claim wait until you call them several times. Mortgage companies that refuse to take payments and have it fixed so you cannot set up payments. Public utilities like Ohio AEP that will not let you set up automatic deductions, you have to have a good credit rating. All these companies need regulation and oversite and the republicans over the years have created laws for them to be able to do this legally. Let a regular person try to take the Trump discount.
Snarkoleptic
(5,997 posts)Welcome to DU!
Bear Creek
(883 posts)Another example went to a store recently that had a sign up that they were charging 5.00 for transactions. That the law had changed few years back. A person ahead of me was grumbling about it I told them the republicans had passed the bill and that I can't afford them. The person did not believe that politics controls this and the republicans would not have passed it.
Yallow
(1,926 posts)There has to be a threshold, and he must have crossed it 20 years ago.
BeeBee
(1,074 posts)tblue37
(65,408 posts)PatSeg
(47,501 posts)I wonder if that was paid for.
Evidently paying one's bills is for the common folk.
HenryJ
(42 posts)Phentex
(16,334 posts)I have heard plenty of stories similar to this from people who dealt with those who thought they were too good to have to pay like a regular person. They know a poorer person won't have the money to sue.
Diremoon
(86 posts)I have heard a great deal of anecdotal evidence to suggest that it is not that uncommon. How did you think that they got rich?
raccoon
(31,111 posts)He did it just to be hateful.
CarrieLynne
(497 posts)thats what happens to the rest of us
keithbvadu2
(36,829 posts)They do not sue.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Othewise it's easy to shoot down as rumor.
Even the guy he stiffed on the pianos is getting the "Well, where is the proof?" treatment.
Botany
(70,516 posts)He is just a thief and a con man.
If your are a republican business owner how could you vote a
person who doesn't pay their bills?
vinny9698
(1,016 posts)You have seen them in your life. Not tipping, cutting in line, bullying, taking kid's lunch money, we have some governors, mayors, judges, local politicians. You have seen them on Face Book, Twitter, with their postings
They were closet racists. Trump just gave them the courage to come out of the closet.
And that is a good thing. Because know we now who they are.
Botany
(70,516 posts)I would guess that # to be about 30% of America but as a small business
owner Trump not paying his bills should be a killer to anybody who has
worked for a paycheck or had a business.
Initech
(100,081 posts)homegirl
(1,429 posts)anyone he won't screw over?
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)PatSeg
(47,501 posts)that American News X is not a very reputable site. I can't find this story anywhere else. It certainly fits his pattern of stiffing people who provide goods or services for him. Does anyone know if this particular story is legit?
Snarkoleptic
(5,997 posts)as the story is not pulled down due to a (doubtless pending) lawsuit.
PatSeg
(47,501 posts)I found a lot of articles where he "skimmed" tips from wait staff. Apparently there is no one that Trump won't rip off.
According to the complaint, the hotel allegedly retained the mandatory 22 percent service fee attached to all bills, which the lawsuit argues a reasonable customer would believe was in fact a gratuity, in violation of state labor law. The service charge has been levied since February 2009 at least through the time of the lawsuit being filed. Garcia, who worked at the hotel in 2013, says it was not disclosed on bills, invoices, or menus that the charge would go to the hotel. A statement released by the hotel claims that Garcia was never employed by the hotel, and that the blame for any tip stiffing lies squarely on the shoulders of third-party contractors. The parties will meet again in court on September 1, after which point the Donald will likely have folded the Republican Party into the Trump Organization.
http://www.grubstreet.com/2016/03/donald-trump-sued-tips.html
I've worked for tips. I can't imagine ripping off servers who aren't making all that much money to begin with. What an ass.
mnhtnbb
(31,392 posts)Here's the link
https://www.facebook.com/christine.lavin.5/posts/10209099413429708
And here's the link to her website. She's quite a verifiable individual.
http://christinelavin.com/
Both those links are in the story if you just click on them.
PatSeg
(47,501 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)This is why you are going to see his name removed from buildings.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)For that amount of loss, I bet 6 figures, I would have published an ad in the Sunday NY f'n Times.
jknudsen
(52 posts)A law firm out there are to solicit all the folks who have been stiffed by this con man.
Lars39
(26,109 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)bora13
(860 posts)on 5th ave or maybe even anywhere in NYC.
Just over 10 years ago I was asked by an existing home
customer if I could help her husband's small business in Manhattan.
I was in Fairfield Cty CT and I normally would not go to NYC. I ended up agreeing that I would charge for driving as well.
The small business on 5th ave had lost its patient database on a hard drive
and needed to have it recovered from tape. All tapes were unreadable.
I spent two separate days down there helping this guy and got him back in operation. I billed him and no response. A second notice. Nothing.
I finally called an attorney I knew and asked him to help me recover my bill.
He finally did, but only after settling for like 35% of the bill.
I was taken by a t-rump like clown.
GWC58
(2,678 posts)running for president will, at least it should, cost that scumbag his reputation. Hopefully a whole lot more.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)ck4829
(35,077 posts)Translation: I'm a broke narcissist.
oldtime dfl_er
(6,931 posts)but WHY IS THIS SCUM NOT IN PRISON?
napi21
(45,806 posts)can't afford to continue & drops the case. That's a scam used by lots of large corporations & wealthy individuals.
SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)Hamlette
(15,412 posts)how much more will we uncover in the next (god forbid) 8 years?
Raine
(30,540 posts)JBoy
(8,021 posts)Maybe he could set up a legal fund to sue Trump. Could that be done as a class action?
IronLionZion
(45,457 posts)The poor guy is being oppressed so hard from taxes that he doesn't pay, and regulations he doesn't follow, and obamacare and lots of other job killing socialism that he can't afford to pay his contractors and caterers. They're not smart like he is to avoid taxes and other obligations the rest of us are just too stupid to avoid.
It's amazing anyone still does business with this worthless piece of shit. Michael Bloomberg and other more liberal billionaires have publicly stated that Trump has always been a selfish asshole to work with.
mrmpa
(4,033 posts)interior ever seen the side of Versailles?
hamsterjill
(15,222 posts)Bleh!!!!
BBbats
(89 posts)Well it doesn't involve Trump directly but....
I used to be a member of a band who played at the Trump marina in Atlantic City off and on. They wouldn't pay you directly at the end of the gig. You had to send them an invoice. You couldn't hand deliver the invoice you had to send it to their accounting department. The accounting office was not open on weekends (when we played). It was always a good idea to send the invoice certified with a return receipt. They always dragged their heels about paying. It could take about four to eight weeks to get paid and that was with a booking agent staying on the account. God forbid if the marina didn't get that invoice within five business days. God forbid if you didn't have proof that Trump marina received your invoice.(tracking number,signed return receipt,etc.)
Anyway our booking agent forgot to invoice them once within the time frame,then the Trump marina went bankrupt so we got stiffed. I think it was for a couple of gigs. It was for the amount of $2500-3000. We had a very reputable agency and they made good on the loss so the band didn't lose.We were lucky!
To top it off after the bankruptcy,they wanted us to play there again.
loup222
(1 post)According to Snopes it's unsubstantiated. And we all know Snopes is accurate and is one the most prominent Fact Checkers. You can read for yourself! http://www.snopes.com/donald-trump-stiffed-his-wedding-caterer/
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)wishstar
(5,270 posts)Not proven, but not disproven either and don't see any denial by Trump & Co.
Kingofalldems
(38,458 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Snarkoleptic
(5,997 posts)Although, much like his failure to provide his tax forms, we shouldn't hold our collective breath.
Also, as I pointed out above, he seems to use our legal system as a personal playground for bullying.
This begs the question- Why has the Drumpenfuhrer not sued to silence his accuser?
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)He hires someone then either complains about non-existent poor workmanship to chip away at the original agreed upon cost or says he's doing them a favor as in this example.
Even if the work was fine, Trump's business pattern is to complain about the work to essentially get a part or all of it free of charge. And that's how he made a chunk of his money. That's probably why there are so many lawsuits. It's his business model. He's sees everyone as potential suckers for him to exploit.