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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBREAKING: Terrible train crash into Hoboken terminal - multiple injuries
Not much more info right now than that.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Questions being asked about the the driver. Nobody knows who s/he was.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)They don't know who the driver was? Yieks!!!
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)This just happened. Still, you'd think the officials would know and release his name! But maybe next of kin have to be notified first. Can't imagine the driver survived such a crash, but who knows! Hoping for no deaths.
marlakay
(11,524 posts)Most trains are run from central line automatically and only in manual in emergency or moving very slowly to park.
He said never would have happened in auto.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)marlakay
(11,524 posts)So something could have happened to driver, like heart attack, etc or he misjudged his speed since after you hit stop train will still go quite a distance and you have to plan for that.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)MicaelS
(8,747 posts)With PTC - Positive Train Control system that would have prevented this from happening. The Railroads have been whining, complaining and stalling to implement, and goverment keeps giving them extensions. The new deadline is 2018.
As a former conductor, I am willing to bet this was human related, not mechanical failure. Either the engineer became incapacitated or failed to maintain proper control. I am also willing to bet the death tool will rise. That station looks destroyed from the air.
http://nbcnews.to/2cEihNI
teach1st
(5,935 posts)9:50 am.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)malaise
(269,237 posts)lapfog_1
(29,234 posts)I really hope this is a malfunction or human error and not intentionally caused.
I hope there are no fatalities.
Baclava
(12,047 posts)It simply did not stop, WFAN anchor John Minko, who witnessed the crash, told 1010 WINS. It went right through the barriers and into the reception area.
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/09/29/nj-transit-train-hoboken-station-crash/
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)?????
Baclava
(12,047 posts)There are fatalities, said a senior transportation official who did not want to be identified because he was not authorized to speak publicly. There are a significant number of injuries. The train was going very fast. There are structural concerns about the facility.
A spokesman for the Federal Railroad Administration, said the agency was aware of the crash and had dispatched investigators.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/30/nyregion/new-jersey-transit-train-crash-hoboken.html?_r=0
Jersey Devil
(9,876 posts)All the trains coming into Hoboken station stop just short of the waiting room and terminal platform where there are huge steel bumpers at the very end of each track. I have been there many times. For a train to crash right through the bumpers and into the station it had to be going at a very high rate of speed.
malaise
(269,237 posts)several trapped.
Jersey Devil
(9,876 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)malaise
(269,237 posts)Where is the Governor???
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Response to Jersey Devil (Reply #14)
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Laxman
(2,419 posts)is not right. However, Christie's political gamesmanship with the NJ Transportation Trust Fund has consequences. Hundreds of road projects stopped in mid-construction. Maintenance deferred. NJ Transit starved of 21% of its operating budget. Of course actions like this have consequences.
Everything written about NJ Transit in the foreseeable future is likely to be viewed in the context of the Hoboken tragedy, so we start with this disclaimer: No one knows what caused the crash, and we trust the Legislature will do the right thing by investigating it thoroughly.
But the investigation must begin with this immutable truth: NJ Transit is missing 21 percent of its budget shelved during that political pie fight known as the Transportation Trust Fund negotiation and independent rail experts have been issuing warnings for months that this shortfall increases the risk of an accident and puts passengers in peril.
Amid these warnings, NJ Transit had cancelled every public board meeting since June 8.
Earlier this week, Martin Robins of the Voorhees Transportation Center at Rutgers the éminence grise for transit matters in our state said that he was startled that 222 NJ Transit projects remain on the shelf, suspended by Gov. Christie back in June.
Robins' prescience was almost chilling: "Maybe nothing catastrophic has happened, but maintenance cannot be deferred," he said. "It's absolutely wrong, when you're operating something as potentially dangerous as a rail system. So this lack of transparency is alarming."
Or, as Janna Chernetz of the Tri-State Transportation Campaign put it Thursday, "If it is determined that this tragedy resulted from mechanical failure and not human error, the question that will arise is whether NJT is adequately funded to keep infrastructure safe."
She added that NJ Transit's lack of transparency is "completely baffling" given all the unanswered questions created by its budgetary limitations.
After Hoboken, the funding issue is an anvil hovering over our entire state: How well is the country's third largest transit system operating, and what must its 955,000 daily riders already irritated by strikes, fare hikes, chronic delays, audio surveillance, and now a deadly crash - brace for next?
Read the rest here: http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2016/09/how_is_nj_transit_operating_with_its_budget_hole_h.html#incart_river_home