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Does this comic strip cross the line? Were the syndicate editors right to refuse to run it? (Original Post) FrodosPet Jul 2016 OP
No and no. CBGLuthier Jul 2016 #1
Same here. No and no. Scuba Jul 2016 #2
Calling Agent Mike Mendocino Jul 2016 #3
Cross what line? Iggo Jul 2016 #4
Supposedly, he was not allowed to run this cartoon in the newspapers FrodosPet Jul 2016 #22
No and no MrScorpio Jul 2016 #5
So that's why yesterday's Pearls was a rerun? Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2016 #6
maybe they refused to run it because it is so stupid? treestar Jul 2016 #7
You're right. Chiyo-chichi Jul 2016 #15
Kids would not be arrested for correcting grammar treestar Jul 2016 #18
Is not exaggeration one of the tools of Horatian satire? LanternWaste Jul 2016 #20
It would have to be mild enough treestar Jul 2016 #21
The pigs are kids? rusty fender Jul 2016 #30
anthropomorphized treestar Jul 2016 #43
wtf melman Jul 2016 #39
Let's see mythology Jul 2016 #32
Thank you for the truth. JEB Jul 2016 #33
Some folks never have a bad word for our government. Rex Jul 2016 #36
Not mention the guy in Ohio who got the 'SWAT' treatment for... Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2016 #40
All of those involve dumb people treestar Jul 2016 #44
Rah rah rah USA USA USA! Rex Jul 2016 #46
Irrelevant response. treestar Jul 2016 #47
Yes your very first response in this thread was irrelevant. Rex Jul 2016 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author Rex Jul 2016 #35
Now that's some well-crafted humor right there. BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #8
No to both questions. DawgHouse Jul 2016 #9
Oh good god Hissyspit Jul 2016 #10
No, no. GeorgeGist Jul 2016 #11
Fairly typical of Pearls Maeve Jul 2016 #12
Exactly. But maybe he did push it a little too far considering leftyladyfrommo Jul 2016 #14
Gone "too far" where? jberryhill Jul 2016 #16
push what too far? Dyedinthewoolliberal Jul 2016 #29
No, THIS is too far. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2016 #42
No. n/t demmiblue Jul 2016 #13
No and no. TheCowsCameHome Jul 2016 #17
Censorship FrodosPet Jul 2016 #25
I don't understand your point. nt LAS14 Jul 2016 #19
It seems he was not allowed to run it in the newspapers (there are newspapers left?) FrodosPet Jul 2016 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author BigDemVoter Jul 2016 #24
No. No. ghostsinthemachine Jul 2016 #26
I think it is the close resemblance of the NSA guy to 911liani rurallib Jul 2016 #27
No and no (nt) matt819 Jul 2016 #28
No and No rusty fender Jul 2016 #31
Ditto. RebelOne Jul 2016 #34
how the fuck does it "cross the line"? I can't believe anyone didn't run it. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #37
That is funny, the fact they didn't run it is pathetic. Rex Jul 2016 #38
WE NEED TO WATCH WHAT WE SAY Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #41
Well you know how important it is for the media to protect Big Brother. Rex Jul 2016 #45

Mendocino

(7,488 posts)
3. Calling Agent Mike
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 10:01 AM
Jul 2016

Imagine if Nixon the Paranoid had modern surveillance methods and devices available. His enemies list would have been a mile high.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
22. Supposedly, he was not allowed to run this cartoon in the newspapers
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 11:53 AM
Jul 2016

Then again, it IS Stephan Pastis - it is probably a swerve.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
6. So that's why yesterday's Pearls was a rerun?
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 10:22 AM
Jul 2016

I thought it was hilarious. But I think Pearls Before Swine is frequently laugh out loud hilarious. Stephan Pastis is a master at clever wordplay.

PBS is one strip I'll always read even if I'm in a hurry.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
7. maybe they refused to run it because it is so stupid?
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 10:22 AM
Jul 2016

that would never happen so it does not pass comic muster - there has to be something realistic to make it funny.

Chiyo-chichi

(3,580 posts)
15. You're right.
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 11:01 AM
Jul 2016

A talking pig would never be arrested as a result of a misunderstanding that resulted from the NSA monitoring communications for keywords.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
18. Kids would not be arrested for correcting grammar
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 11:20 AM
Jul 2016

As if they'd be listening to kids in the first place.

It is in their own interests to target the right people. And there is a FISA procedure. Too many exaggerations in this alleged fear of being monitored by the government with no cause.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
20. Is not exaggeration one of the tools of Horatian satire?
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 11:45 AM
Jul 2016

Is not exaggeration one of the tools of Horatian satire?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
21. It would have to be mild enough
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 11:48 AM
Jul 2016

to still allow something to seem real. Even real tyrants did not arrest kids - they tried to use them as spies. None of them cared about grammar. There's a line there somewhere.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
32. Let's see
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 02:07 PM
Jul 2016

A guy was interviewed by the police in England for texting Clash lyrics.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/jun/03/terrorism.world

Another guy was detained for several hours for singing along to the Clash.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-382039/Playing-The-Clash-terror-suspect.html

An economist was detained here for doing math.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/05/07/professors-airplane-math-leads-flight-delay/84084914/

You're right it isn't funny. But that's because it's all too real. Comedy is tragedy plus time. We haven't had the time yet.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,327 posts)
40. Not mention the guy in Ohio who got the 'SWAT' treatment for...
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 05:21 PM
Jul 2016

... supposedly pledging loyalty to ISIS. I know it wasn't a withe tap but the guy was just talking on a cell phone.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
44. All of those involve dumb people
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 05:39 PM
Jul 2016

and the persons questioned were not arrested, etc. Also no government direct spying was involved as in the cartoon. It was some person dumb enough to be afraid by what they saw/heard. They were let go when the explanation became clear. It does not involve government misdeeds at all, which is the point of the cartoon, which apparently implies the NSA is listening and will haul people in for things that have nothing to do with terrorism whatsoever.

Response to treestar (Reply #7)

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
14. Exactly. But maybe he did push it a little too far considering
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 10:57 AM
Jul 2016

the current climate.

I love his cartoons and I think all the people who follow him all the time would not have been offended. He just loves to play with words and phrases. But I can see where someone just looking at it for the first time might not really understand and think he had gone one too far.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
25. Censorship
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 12:01 PM
Jul 2016

Possibly a chickens**t syndication editor, possibly Stephan having some fun.

Anyhow, he asked for a debate, so I moved it over here!

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
23. It seems he was not allowed to run it in the newspapers (there are newspapers left?)
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 11:58 AM
Jul 2016
https://www.facebook.com/PearlsComic/?fref=ts


Ugh. I keep trying to post the pulled strip in question, but fittingly, it keeps coming up solid black. Fortunately, it is showing up on Twitter. Just search for my name on Twitter: Stephan Pastis. My apologies!

As you will see, it is not offensive at all. At least not to me. I think that with recent events, it's just a sensitive issue. I will try posting it again here, but if it comes up solid black, just go to Twitter.

Update: someone has posted it in the comments. I will leave it up to you to debate whether or not it should have run.

Response to FrodosPet (Original post)

rurallib

(62,414 posts)
27. I think it is the close resemblance of the NSA guy to 911liani
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 12:06 PM
Jul 2016

it goes nowhere near a line.

Now what Trump said yesterday goes waaaaaay past any line.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
38. That is funny, the fact they didn't run it is pathetic.
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 05:16 PM
Jul 2016

So they didn't run it, because it is true? See how stupid that works out, they should have ran it what stupid Big Brother shit.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
45. Well you know how important it is for the media to protect Big Brother.
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 05:42 PM
Jul 2016

I guess we can call them Little Brother with a Press Pass.

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