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mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 08:28 AM Jul 2016

Obama vetoes cuts to former presidents' expense accounts

WASHINGTON — President Obama took steps to preserve the office allowances given to former presidents Friday, by vetoing a measure that would have capped those expenses at $200,000 a year.

The veto comes less than six months before Obama will become a former president himself. But Obama suggested in a message to Congress that his veto was more about the "unintended consequences" the bill would have on his predecessors.

At issue: The expense allowances that former presidents get to travel and maintain an office. Obama said that by capping those allowances at $200,000, some current former presidents would have to lay off staff, cancel leases or even return office furniture.

Under current law, the General Services Administration must provide "suitable office space, appropriately furnished and equipped." The total cost of maintaining and staffing those offices currently ranges from $430,000 for former President Jimmy Carter to $1.1 million for former President George W. Bush, according to a report by the Congressional Research Service.

The Presidential Allowance Modernization Act of 2016 would have removed the GSA's role in providing office space, instead giving a flat $200,000 allowance.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/obama-vetoes-cuts-to-former-presidents-expense-accounts/ar-BBuGJ7E?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout

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Obama vetoes cuts to former presidents' expense accounts (Original Post) mfcorey1 Jul 2016 OP
Poor Harry Truman, often ranked one of ten best Presidents in US history, had to come to merrily Jul 2016 #1
I think $200,000 is more than enough. LuvNewcastle Jul 2016 #2
You're intermixing the income from their private, personal lives procon Jul 2016 #4
This veto should be overridden. N/t roamer65 Jul 2016 #3
GW Bush at edhopper Jul 2016 #5
That is truly disgusting... tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #6
President Obama doesn't agree obviously or he would have signed the bill yeoman6987 Jul 2016 #7
I think it was the cap below what any now edhopper Jul 2016 #9
W does a *lot* with HIV-AIDS in Africa Recursion Jul 2016 #11
This sounds like more of the ongoing effort to drown govt in the bathtub Doremus Jul 2016 #8
Ex-President stuff SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2016 #12
It's not like there are many of them. JI7 Jul 2016 #10

merrily

(45,251 posts)
1. Poor Harry Truman, often ranked one of ten best Presidents in US history, had to come to
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 08:39 AM
Jul 2016

Last edited Sat Jul 23, 2016, 09:14 AM - Edit history (1)

Washington, hat in hand, to beg for a small pension to cover the costs of being a former President.

As best I can tell, his World War I military service and being President were the only two things at which he ever succeeded.

http://www.taxhistory.org/thp/readings.nsf/ArtWeb/1C91AC0FA1A9E39E85257D1B0041C876?OpenDocument

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
2. I think $200,000 is more than enough.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 08:41 AM
Jul 2016

They get a generous pension, security, and plenty of opportunities to make extra money giving speeches, sitting on corporate boards, etc. Ridiculous.

procon

(15,805 posts)
4. You're intermixing the income from their private, personal lives
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 11:38 AM
Jul 2016

with their post-presidential activities. The two are separate. As former presidents, they are still acting on behalf of the country, interacting with people from all over the world, so their service should be compensated.

In most metropolitan cities it would be impossible to rent appropriate office space, keep it stocked, maintain the high tech utilities for a modern day communications suite, have a professional public presence on the internet, and hire a couple of staffers for daily tasks for just $200K.

edhopper

(33,575 posts)
5. GW Bush at
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 11:49 AM
Jul 2016

$1.1 mil? How is Dallas more expensive than New York City? (Clinton)

Still grifting off the public teat.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
7. President Obama doesn't agree obviously or he would have signed the bill
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 11:58 AM
Jul 2016

I guess I don't understand why they need a staff and office at all.

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
8. This sounds like more of the ongoing effort to drown govt in the bathtub
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 11:59 AM
Jul 2016

Removing GSA's role in providing office space sounds like an attempt to kill off/mortally wound/shrink another government agency so that oligarchs can step in and make it all better, for a price.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
12. Ex-President stuff
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 04:12 PM
Jul 2016

is a tiny, tiny fraction of what GSA does. I don't care one way or the other what is done in this case, but this wouldn't even put a dent in GSA workload if it were removed.

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