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applegrove

(117,447 posts)
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 08:27 PM Jul 2016

Black Lives Matter protest in Wichita changed to cookout with police

Black Lives Matter protest in Wichita changed to cookout with police

http://www.kansascity.com/news/state/kansas/article90247307.html

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WICHITA – What was originally planned as a protest march turned into a cookout where Wichita police and a diverse group of residents broke bread together.

The Wichita Eagle reports that organizers of the protest met with Police Chief Gordon Ramsay for several hours, ending with an agreement for the cookout, which took place Sunday at a city park. Several Wichita police officers took part.

Black Lives Matter protesters had planned to march on Sunday, but after organizers met with Chief Ramsay for hours, according to the protesters, they agreed to break bread together instead.

The goal was to open communication and build trust between police and the communities they serve. The crowd at the cookout included people who were white, black and Hispanic.


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Black Lives Matter protest in Wichita changed to cookout with police (Original Post) applegrove Jul 2016 OP
Would be great if it became a trend. applegrove Jul 2016 #1
that was exactly my first thought. it actually caused a warm Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #18
Agreed. Made my heart feel happy. 840high Jul 2016 #28
Agreed...Super nice. whathehell Jul 2016 #70
Finally some sanity AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #2
I dont think sanity has ever left but sanity like the story of a kitten being rescued by a cop cstanleytech Jul 2016 #67
That's awesome! Quackers Jul 2016 #3
Now that sounds fun. tenderfoot Jul 2016 #4
big K & R for this... dhill926 Jul 2016 #5
Police Chief Gordon Ramsey at a cookout zz-la Jul 2016 #6
Chief Gordon Ramsay: ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2016 #7
Lol, love it Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #12
Love this story, and love that the Chief's name was Gordon Rasmay! nt Gorgatron Jul 2016 #50
Haha Else You Are Mad Jul 2016 #51
My first thought too when I saw the name! BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2016 #53
ehe.... no f-bombs? mwooldri Jul 2016 #55
I thought about adding a couple of GR f-bombs but didn't want certain people... ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2016 #56
Good on both sides kacekwl Jul 2016 #8
And it makes it difficult for "Helpful Supporters of the Movement" ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #52
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #9
How is having a civil conversation a joke? Travis_0004 Jul 2016 #14
WTF? WhiteTara Jul 2016 #16
Best news I've read all day!! Ms.Lib Jul 2016 #10
Awesome Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #11
Yup, with you there. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2016 #13
That's a BLM group who is getting the job done radical noodle Jul 2016 #15
Well good! mysuzuki2 Jul 2016 #17
those were the days..... Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #19
I have been saying that for a while- KrazyinKS Jul 2016 #20
More of this please Egnever Jul 2016 #21
Why not both? Instead of riot gear the cops could set up charcoal grills, the BLM walkers could help jtuck004 Jul 2016 #22
If i was rich I would so fund those picnics. Free food for everyone and beer for the parents. Twice applegrove Jul 2016 #23
This made me feel so good - if 840high Jul 2016 #30
Yeah. That would take a whole heap of money to do it across the country every month. But that would applegrove Jul 2016 #31
this would produce better results than blocking traffic would Skittles Jul 2016 #24
This is the way to go, IMO nikto Jul 2016 #25
I'm all for protests bluestateguy Jul 2016 #26
it was a pretty cool event demtenjeep Jul 2016 #27
Beautiful LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #29
Outstanding for all involved! nt 7962 Jul 2016 #32
Best news of the day. n/t ChazII Jul 2016 #33
More of this, please! mountain grammy Jul 2016 #34
Bravo to all involved. Now can we have some "copy cat" action on this? BlueStreak Jul 2016 #35
Does this mean the Race War that the nut-jobs have been threatening us about will be canceled? nt King_Klonopin Jul 2016 #36
Giuliani was all about togetherness tonight. Seems the GOP is turning the applegrove Jul 2016 #37
Giuliani is about as trustworthy as a rattle snake. King_Klonopin Jul 2016 #38
No dammit! I already bought an out fit for it!! nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2016 #44
Excellent! BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #39
This is really good. PatrickforO Jul 2016 #40
This is why Catholics have "Mass" King_Klonopin Jul 2016 #72
happiness is a full belly. :) Javaman Jul 2016 #41
How wonderful! I love this! BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2016 #42
This is great!! Chemisse Jul 2016 #43
Now we're getting somewhere! Hulk Jul 2016 #45
Good news for a change! NaturalHigh Jul 2016 #46
Brilliant! WatchWhatISay Jul 2016 #47
Love this. K&R (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2016 #48
K&R! DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #49
This is what needs to happen! hamsterjill Jul 2016 #54
Brillant.........!! Historic NY Jul 2016 #57
We're all in this together, folks. George II Jul 2016 #58
THIS is how it should work. calimary Jul 2016 #59
Outreach.. it works! Amimnoch Jul 2016 #60
excellent idea! k & r rollin74 Jul 2016 #61
That is wonderful!! AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #62
Now this is a BLM protest I can get behind. romanic Jul 2016 #63
There might be hope. lpbk2713 Jul 2016 #64
If it's in Kansas, there will be ribs. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #65
Excellent awoke_in_2003 Jul 2016 #66
KICK ailsagirl Jul 2016 #68
Great Role Models Peaceful Protester Jul 2016 #69
This is great...Congrats to all involved...We need more of it. whathehell Jul 2016 #71
 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
18. that was exactly my first thought. it actually caused a warm
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 08:54 PM
Jul 2016

rush through my body. it feels SO good to hear things like this. Rodney king was so right. RIP.

cstanleytech

(25,928 posts)
67. I dont think sanity has ever left but sanity like the story of a kitten being rescued by a cop
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 04:49 PM
Jul 2016

for example rarely generates as much interest as a cop shooting someone so you hear more about cops shootings someone more than you do about kittens being saved.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
7. Chief Gordon Ramsay:
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 08:38 PM
Jul 2016

What the hell is wrong with you people? Where did you learn how to cook? Is this what you call food?

The brats are crap! The burgers are dried out! The hot dogs must've been made from the scraps lying around the processing plant floor! All the buns are hard and stale!

THE CRISPS ARE OUT OF A PLASTIC BAG, FOR GOD'S SAKE!

You people don't know what you're doing!


 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
56. I thought about adding a couple of GR f-bombs but didn't want certain people...
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:47 PM
Jul 2016

...to sprain their arm/hand reaching for their pearls.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
52. And it makes it difficult for "Helpful Supporters of the Movement" ...
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 11:58 AM
Jul 2016

to throw bottles ... and it makes it difficult for "citizen journalists" to fan flames.

Response to applegrove (Original post)

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
14. How is having a civil conversation a joke?
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 08:47 PM
Jul 2016

Both sides can get to know each other, and learn a bit more about the other side.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
11. Awesome
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 08:45 PM
Jul 2016

I hope this happens more often and hosted by both sides around the country, share a beer, good food and be friends.

KrazyinKS

(291 posts)
20. I have been saying that for a while-
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 09:16 PM
Jul 2016

Lets have a picnic together, make it a pot luck. Get to know each other over good food. The kids go out in the field and play baseball or something. Even bring a keg, or hang out by Uncle Joe's car and nip off the whiskey in his trunk. Like a real family picnic.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
22. Why not both? Instead of riot gear the cops could set up charcoal grills, the BLM walkers could help
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 09:20 PM
Jul 2016

cook, everyone could talk at the end. They still get the message out that needs to get out - that Black Lives Matter - and it is not submerged into "cookout with the police". And the police get to talk with people and record them and make notes and stuff, like they would anyway. Well, they did in the 60's, and hearts don't change. Not really.

Anyway, probably cheaper than all that rioting and stuff.

applegrove

(117,447 posts)
23. If i was rich I would so fund those picnics. Free food for everyone and beer for the parents. Twice
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 09:39 PM
Jul 2016

every summer.

applegrove

(117,447 posts)
31. Yeah. That would take a whole heap of money to do it across the country every month. But that would
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 10:20 PM
Jul 2016

be ideal.

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
27. it was a pretty cool event
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 10:09 PM
Jul 2016

and I hope it becomes more of a trend.

Everyone felt it was successful and helped a lot.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
35. Bravo to all involved. Now can we have some "copy cat" action on this?
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 11:04 PM
Jul 2016

It has occurred to many of us that the vast majority of these mass shooters are not highly-trained, deeply committed ISIS terrorists. They are deeply disturbed people -- many of whom act out in response to what they see on the news. When the cable channels carry 24x7 hyperbole on the subject, nobody should be surprised that a small number of sickos "copy cat" just what Bill O'Reilly and others are saying.

Here is a case where the parties have come together. It is a shame that so many innocent civilians, mostly black, have been killed by a small number of bad cops, most of whom are sickos who graduated from our national war machine. And it is a shame that so many cops -- probably very good men and women -- have been killed by sickos responding to what they see on Cable News.

So the payoff question is whether the media will give this Wichita event the same 24x7 coverage that they give the shootings? We need some "copy cats" copying what the people of Wichita have done.

We get what we deserve. When we allow the media to run rampant, this is what happens. We must hold the media accountable for their considerable role in these killings.

applegrove

(117,447 posts)
37. Giuliani was all about togetherness tonight. Seems the GOP is turning the
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:14 AM
Jul 2016

page on keeping races separate so they can play them off against each other and the police. I truly hope so. And then I remember they have chosen Trump to lead them.

King_Klonopin

(1,302 posts)
38. Giuliani is about as trustworthy as a rattle snake.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:30 AM
Jul 2016

And Trump views every issue through the prism of a demagogue.

PatrickforO

(14,463 posts)
40. This is really good.
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 08:18 AM
Jul 2016

It is EXACTLY what is needed, for people to talk and see each other as real human beings.

King_Klonopin

(1,302 posts)
72. This is why Catholics have "Mass"
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 12:18 AM
Jul 2016

Mass is Latin for meal.
It's hard to fight with people and hold grudges with people when you
are sharing a meal together. It breaks through the animosity and
brings out our common humanity.

Javaman

(62,312 posts)
41. happiness is a full belly. :)
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 08:32 AM
Jul 2016

better to talk over differences on a full stomach than an empty one.

I like this idea and hope it starts a trend.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
45. Now we're getting somewhere!
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 10:36 AM
Jul 2016

Dialowue is the first step. Bless their hearys....all of them!
There will be plenty of time for lines to be drawn, etc.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
60. Outreach.. it works!
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 02:13 PM
Jul 2016

When the people you are dealing with are human beings instead of somebody who represents some element of mostly imagined danger, less people will die.

Last week when I watched the protests in Atlanta I kept screaming at the TV screen that there was a PERFECT opportunity to build bridges instead of drawing lines.. if only the wall of law enforcement had just broken rank, joined in with the Protesters with hugs.. handshakes.. and decided to walk WITH them, so much good will could have been built.

As long as it remains adversarial, the rift will only continue to widen, and more will die.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
66. Excellent
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 04:45 PM
Jul 2016

The way to the heart is through the stomach. Breaking bread with someone is an excellent way to learn about a person.

Peaceful Protester

(280 posts)
69. Great Role Models
Tue Jul 19, 2016, 06:34 PM
Jul 2016

The American Baptist minister and activist, Martin Luther King Jr., became a great leader in the African-American Civil Rights Movement through the speeches he made and the actions he took based upon principle.

After the shooting, members of The Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church embodied these principles by immediately forgiving the shooter despite the immense suffering his actions caused (forgiveness purges the poison that is hate). The Emanuel AME Church is an awesome role model for the Nation as well as the principles of humility, love and forgiveness which Martin Luther King Jr. also studied.

It's not easy to do these things, but it is very necessary to heal and break the cycle of violence while also confronting and bringing attention to an injustice. It takes Humility, Love and Forgiveness. Whether or not you believe in God or read the Bible, the wisdom contained within these principles are sound universal truths.

"for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" -- Romans 3:23

"Judge not, that ye be not judged." -- Matthew 7:1

"For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins." -- Matthew 6:14-15

"Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord." -- Romans 12:19

"Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres." -- 1 Corinthians 13:4-7

"Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him." -- 1 John 3:15

"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;" -- Matthew 5:44

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