Babies Of Color Are Now The Majority, Census Says

[IronLionZion]

http://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2016/07/01/484325664/babies-of-color-are-now-the-majority-census-says?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20160702



Today's generation of schoolchildren looks much different than one just a few decades ago. Nonwhites are expected to become the majority of the nation's children by 2020, as our colleague Bill Chappell reported last year. This is now the reality among the very youngest Americans: babies.

Babies of color now outnumber non-Hispanic white babies (1 year or younger), according to new estimates from the U.S. Census Bureau. The newest estimate shows that on July 1, 2015, the population of racial or ethnic minority babies was 50.2 percent.

But the scales may have actually tipped in 2013 — the Census Bureau often revises past population estimates as new data become available. That means the first of these babies are now preschool-aged.

We've already been seeing this shift in U.S. schools: the 2014-15 school year marked the first time that minority student enrollment in public schools surpassed that of white students.

For U.S. Children, Minorities Will Be The Majority By 2020, Census Says

Trump's supporters have no idea what America looks like and they won't be prepared for what happens to them this election day. They just can't believe what kind of people are born in America these days!

[L. Coyote]

1. Only one problem, race is only a mental construct. There are no races, just racists.

Last edited Mon Jul 4, 2016, 10:50 PM - Edit history (1)

Anyone who believes there are races is a racist.
AAA Statement on Race

[IronLionZion]

2. There are lots of racists

some of them are very proud of it

[pnwmom]

8. So doctors who do research on which races are more susceptible to various

diseases are racists?

Is it racism to believe that black people have a greater genetic propensity to get sickle cell anemia?

Yes, race is a construct but it has a real-world connection.

[fleabiscuit]

13. Non sequitur. n/t

[L. Coyote]

14. Doctors and educated professionals understand genetic diversity as a continuum and understand that

having a specific gene is not linked to the color of your skin, rather to your DNA. There are no "black" people, there are lots of people who have the sickle cell gene and they are likely to have African heritage because of malaria in the tropics. Sickle cell has not been wiped out due to Darwinian effects because sickle hemoglobin protects against malaria. The leader of the racists trying to start an "all white" town in ND could have sickle cell because he has 14% African ancestry.

[Jemmons]

26. Would kinship selection promote a bias for racism?

Robert Sapolsky talks a lot about kinship selection, but i dont remember if he says anything to support such a notion.

[Lithos]

42. It was a "team jersey" type of thing

You rooted for those who "looked" like you... We derive quite a bit of our identity from how we look and who we relate to the most.

But in terms of genetics - after a few wars, this was all B.S. We all are related, often closer than we realize. This gives the big lie to the "must look like us"...

L-

[Lithos]

40. +1

Best answer...

[mainer]

17. Hybrid vigor! Races should mix.

You won't find race-related illnesses if we're all heterozygous.

[pnwmom]

18. If there are "no races" then by definition they cannot mix because they don't exist. n/t

[L. Coyote]

23. There are no races.

[mainer]

29. So just call it genotypes. The more hybrid we are, the better.

whatever way you want to classify genotypes, I don't care. I just think genotypes mixing is healthier. I just used "race" as shorthand. Why get all huffy about it?

[L. Coyote]

48. In biology, hybrid is offspring of two animals of different species, mules and donkeys

for example. While genotype refers to the entire set of genes in an individual. Not being huffy, just trying to use English.

[mainer]

51. "Hybrid" does NOT refer exclusively to offspring of different species

It refers to two genotypes mixing. They may be different breeds (eg dachshunds and corgis), races (if you'll accept that loaded term for purposes of this discussion) or simply plant colors. I think you can agree that corgis and dachshunds are the same canid species. Successful cross-species breeding is in fact unusual, otherwise we'd see more of it. The inability to reproduce and make fertile offspring is, in fact, what partly defines separate species.

You might want to look up "heterosis", previously known as heterozygosis for a more complete explanation of what I mean by hybrid vigor.

(Speaking as one whose background is biology)

[Igel]

61. True, the first part.

But not true, the second part.

It just means that skin-color or ethnicity won't be an added help in IDing some things. If a white has sickle-cell it's harder to ID than if a black has it. If you're Native American with thalassemia it's harder to spot than if you're Arab.

[JanMichael]

56. it is the word and the racist history. lighter complexion people get sickle cell too.

it 8s a mediterranian genetic disease.

race is a way to demonize and divide. ethicity is not.

[muriel_volestrangler]

22. American Anthropological Association?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Anthropological_Association

[L. Coyote]

80. I fixed the AAA Statement on Race link above.

[giftedgirl77]

77. Tell that to the assholes that refer to my children as mud babies.

Or me as an illegal immigrant for having an accent, or my fiance as a terrorist for flying a Pakistani flag on his mirror or for saying mashallah when he expresses happiness.

Race is seen as a negative to many that only see our brown skin & "funny" accents. Ppl that claim there is no race are stuck in their privilege & denial. We are proud of our heritage & don't appreciate it when someone tries to put us into some neat little box of "no race" or whatever you are trying to say.

[L. Coyote]

79. There are no races.

People who think like that need to be told more than anyone.

[giftedgirl77]

85. Lol, you go with that.

Enjoy your world of unicorns & fairies while you're at it.

[snooper2]

86. And Synthetic Hybrids, you can't forget about those!

Found this top hit on the youtubes based on your "opinion"


There Are NO "RACES".. Only The Race of Man.. and Synthetic Hybrids PT1

Published on Oct 16, 2015
Video commentary following the thesis that earth has one race.. put here in original creation.. Since then other entities have, in their attempts, to copy the Father's creation, synthetically spawned many variations of hybrids and man-like beings.

This is the war waged since the beginning of time;

[underpants]

3. Let's under feed their development, poison the food supply, under educate them, and restrict their ability to vote

We just have to do it for another 100 years

- Republican internal fundraising memo.

[IronLionZion]

5. They've openly sent memos to have more babies

They encourage conservative voters to have larger families

And some of the religious groups have tried to recruit minority voters into the GOP based on faith, but Trump has set back that effort for quite a few years.

[Iggo]

15. Quiverfull. (n/t)

[DesertRat]

27. Ouch

Spot on.

[coco77]

4. They are against abortion

So the right wing should be happy, more people to make suffer after they are born.

[Warren DeMontague]

6. I'm more concerned that every baby be wanted, loved, fed and cared for

than what color they are.

[yardwork]

9. That makes you different from a Republican on every point.

[liberalnarb]

21. It will be fun to watch white republicans go full hypocrite and apply for affimative action

[yardwork]

43. Lol, lol. I would not be surprised.

They're being oppressed11111!

[Igel]

62. That has sort of been done for men at some schools.

When the student body was well over 50% male there were calls for affirmative action to increase the student body's female population. The response was, "Well, perhaps the men are just smarter or more competent."


In some schools the student body is well over 50% female, skewed at the levels that still had calls for increasing the female representation. So now some are calling for outreach (etc.) to increase the male population back to parity.

The response has been, "You hypocrites." That's fine as far as that goes, but doesn't address the underlying morality of the name-calling side, which is that sex parity was a social goal.

But then parody is added to the mix, and the side of good continues without any awareness of the irony, "Perhaps the women are just smarter or more competent."

A local principal was commenting on how the school she was over had shifted demographics a bit. It had been something like 65% black, 25% Latino, and the other 10% had been white and Asian and Native American. Then the next year it was 75% black, a bit more than 25% Latino, and the remaining 3-5% white/Asian/Native American. And she said it was "increasing diversity." It wasn't; for her, 100% diverse would mean "100% non-white/Asian/Native American."

Some of the "good guys" are just the bad guys inverted, but since you're on the side against the bad guys you have to be good. They forget that Stalin and Hitler fought a war, and that in that fight there were no good guys. Similarly, China and Vietnam had a bit of a skirmish while Vietnam was in the throes of its re-education camp program (or pogrom, little difference).

[IronLionZion]

69. Diversity vs advancing people who have historically been held back

The good guys who don't see what's wrong with it are thinking of correcting historical wrongs and view whites as the ones who still have national power rather than balancing out numbers.

Popular supreme court justice Ginsburg wants 9 women on the court since there have 9 men for most of our country's history. She doesn't see anything wrong with it.

It's also a matter of perspective based on one's own experiences.


Maybe. Just my $0.02.

[Warren DeMontague]

31. Explains my voting record, I guess.

[yardwork]

44. They're on to you! You're obviously not one of them!

[Warren DeMontague]

54. I think that's been clear for a long time.

I recently unearthed a letter to the editor I wrote- on a typewriter- for the '84 election. I showed it to my wife and she said "it's definitely you- but boy, you were very strident and condescending" I think I used the phrase "the moron majority"..

I'm all "shit, I was a teenager, whaddaya want"

[Nye Bevan]

10. I've been accused of "colorblindness" here for saying things like that,

and some claim that "colorblindness" is almost as bad as being a racist.

[Warren DeMontague]

30. Well, I don't spend a lot of time worrying about what other people think of my opinions, mostly.

I believe what I believe, and if people don't like it, tough. I'm certainly not about to apologize for a statement like that. I think it speaks for itself.

[IronLionZion]

34. It can be viewed as ignoring racial issues experienced by others nt

[salin]

47. ala imagining that we all experience every aspect of life the same way....

and ignoring that there are many institutional and societal norms that are very inherently unequal based not on the individual, or character, but based on race.

I agree with the OP of the subthread that I care about all kids needs being met, but I disagree with the opinion that the sentiment means 'colorblindness'. As a long time urban educator, we have understand/acknowledge/adapt to our students' experiences (per dysfunctional societal norms), in order to meet there needs. We have made some progress but are far from meeting that goal.

[Igel]

63. The problem is that often

your analysis turns out the answer based on your assumptions.

If you make economics dependent on race, racism is everywhere and crucial for Af-Am populations. On the other hand, for some segments of the white population it's all about economics. You need two mighty factors with skewed distribution.

If you make economics primary, then you get very similar results for both populations. In some of the cases where you don't, there usually wasn't a suitable control so we must argue from silence. (The resume/names studies, for instance.)

One is reductionist, the other maximalist. Neither are completely satisfying except to those who want to believe.

[salin]

75. very insightful point.

and very true.

[kwassa]

70. no, that is not what you have been accused of.

I can predict, however, that you will pop up in threads like these.

[Nye Bevan]

72. What is the purpose of posts like that?

At best they add nothing to the discussion, and at worst they are vaguely creepy.

[kwassa]

78. To which posts are you referring?

[salin]

45. Hear here!

100% Agreed.

[romanic]

58. Agreed.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

7. But orange babies with hair weaves are a tiny minority. Make the one grow up by making him lose. nt

[liberalnarb]

12. Cool.

Though I read a New York Times article that said this may not be true.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/11/opinion/the-myth-of-a-white-minority.html?_r=0

[IronLionZion]

28. Multiracial

it's true that some multiracial people would be considered white if they look light-skinned, and get the privileges or choice of identity. That's one of the reasons segregation didn't get enforced as much in New Orleans transit back in the day.

It is a bit different for the multiracial people who are dark-skinned, like me. That article brings up very good points.

The discrepancy arises because of demographic convention: The census counts as minority anyone of mixed race or ethnicity.

[Igel]

64. Had a Latino in my class a few years back.

Most Latinos assumed she was anglo. Pale, blue eyes, brown hair. My skin was darker, eyes are brown, hair is darker. I'm an "anglo" of Irish descent.

She was Argentine.

There ensued a debate as to whether she was a person of color. The decision was she had to be because she was Latino. That's what happens when you let terms float free from their referents because of ideology and formalisms.

I pointed out that 140 years ago I'd have been a "person of color."

[IronLionZion]

65. The US Census accounts for white hispanics and non-white hispanics

Latinos who look like they have European heritage have very different experiences than the ones with more Native American heritage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Hispanic_and_Latino_Americans

And some people do have sympathy for the Irish since they were oppressed back in the day.

[mainer]

16. In Hawaii, "Cosmopolitan" was the #1 racial group among babies

At least, that's what I recall while working there as a medical professional. Everyone had to get along because chances were, your kid/grandkid/niece/nephew was mixed race. The best way to integrate is to have multiracial relatives.

[calimary]

33. But this is totally logical and reasonable for a world that's always evolving.

I'm honestly surprised this is being discovered now. I thought in many places around this country and the globe that was how it already is.

[mainer]

38. I think Hawaii is an extraordinary experiment

where the #1 ethnic group for infants is "mixed."

Only in Hawaii do I find comedians regularly making fun of the different ethnic groups -- and getting away with it. Because when everyone is equally made fun of, we all laugh together.

[Separation]

66. Until the very real situation of reverse racism happens.

My best friend was stationed at the Marine Air Station there and his two kids went to school out in town. They and other white kids were terrorized on an almost daily basis.

[liberalnarb]

19. NBC Reported on this.

The racists in the comment section were unbelievable.

[DesertRat]

20. I think this is partly what Trump's slogan is about

"Make America Great (aka WHITE) Again."

[liberalnarb]

24. NBC covered this. The racist comments were unbearable.

[IronLionZion]

32. Some people were also blaming feminists for not having enough babies

[liberalnarb]

39. One person actually came out and said

that minorities conspired and did this on purpose so that they could do to whites what whites did "200 years ago." Of course they said 200 years ago because that same poster does not believe that white racism exists anymore.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

50. Could you please link to the NBC article, please? Thanks! nt

[liberalnarb]

52. Here.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/13/18934111-census-white-majority-in-us-gone-by-2043

[ChisolmTrailDem]

53. Thanks...I'll hold my nose from the stench... nt

[yardwork]

46. I'm thinking about making a t-shirt: "America was never white."

[sheshe2]

55. It was just white washed. nt

[raccoon]

25. don't let the right-wingers know, they'll go cuckoo. Oh, wait.. nt

[mwrguy]

35. Good.

[Starry Messenger]

36. I, for one, welcome our new POC infant overlords.

[liberalnarb]

37. Wow

"When that shift for the U.S. as a whole takes place by 2044, the Census Bureau predicts no one racial or ethnic group will dominate the U.S. in terms of size,"

A completely diverse nation.

[bravenak]

41. Finally

[sheshe2]

57. Yup!

[The2ndWheel]

71. Is it a race to the finish line?

[whistler162]

74. Nah we have plenty of Finish people

[JCMach1]

49. Describes my family...

My 5 year old son is Kenyan-American like our president...

[Holly_Hobby]

59. Is Pat Buchanan still alive?

Someone please send him this, maybe he'll choke on it.

[IronLionZion]

60. Yup, he's still alive

I imagine a lot of crotchety old Repubs will have a heart attack when they see it

[Holly_Hobby]

73. This what I'm referring to...

http://thinkprogress.org/media/2011/10/19/346485/in-new-book-decrying-slow-death-of-white-america-pat-buchanan-warns-that-minorities-lower-test-scores/

[ismnotwasm]

67. K&R!

[lunatica]

68. Here in California this already happened two decades ago

The majority of people under 20 are now Brown in California.

Moctezuma's real revenge!

[Shandris]

76. Unless transparent babies have been in vogue in the past, every baby ever born has been 'of color'.

Not sure what all the pointless division is about. Oh wait, I totally am sure actually, but I'm having a good enough day that bantering about it seems much more useful.

[IronLionZion]

81. Trump's people will deport you soon

[davidn3600]

82. Not sure how it's even defined anymore....

For example, my girlfriend is half white and half hispanic.

Her skin though is white....

But is she counted as a POC in the census considering she's only half-white?

How dark does the skin need to be to be considered a POC?

Which arrives at the billion dollar question...what's the point? Who cares?

[IronLionZion]

83. Trump's people know you're not American

and they are coming for you next.

Census does have separate categories for white hispanics and non-white hispanics. Your girlfriend would be counted as white hispanic or mixed race.

Which arrives at the billion dollar question...what's the point? Who cares?

People experience blatant discrimination on a daily basis in work and housing and other areas for not looking "American" and being assumed to be "from somewhere else". It's my number one frustration here in DC my country's capital in spite of my birth certificate and very American accent. Remember Obama's birth certificate and the whole premise of Trump's presidential campaign is to define who is really American? Be grateful that you don't experience it.

[davidn3600]

84. That discrimination wont go away

Less white babies might piss of a few of the big racists, but this isn't going to change much of anything. Racists will still be racist regardless what the numbers are.

Racism isn't due to population numbers. For example, whites were a minority in South Africa during apartheid. They were only 10% of the population but allocated 80% of the land to themselves.

In the US, whites control practically all the nation's total wealth. And that's not changing at all.
2013's numbers: White's controlled 90% of America's wealth. Hispanics controlled 2.3%. Blacks control 2.6%. The remaining is split up among "other."

And no, this wealth inequality isn't changing at all. In fact, if you factor in increases in cost of living over the past 20 years, it can be argued that POC in America have actually gotten poorer.

It's what us Bernie folks have been trying to say...you can't have social justice without economic justice. You can have 60% of the population as POC, but whites will continue to control all the money. Their country clubs and gated communities are not in any danger whatsoever.