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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBernie's asking for money for his delegates.
email:
"Before our nearly 1,900 delegates can vote at the Democratic convention next month, we need to actually get them to Philadelphia.
Here's the thing: our delegates are not wealthy campaign contributors. They're not party insiders or establishment elites. They're working folks, and it's not easy for many of them to fly to Philly and stay in hotels for a week.
We really need to have all of our delegates at the Democratic convention because we expect there could be critical votes for the party platform and electoral process. We'd hate to fall short on these votes because some of our delegates couldn't afford to go to the convention.
That's why I'm asking you directly:
Make a $35 contribution to our campaign before Thursday's midnight FEC deadline to help our delegates come to the Democratic convention so we can have our entire political revolution represented next month in Philadelphia."
OK, I supported Bernie and I gave $35 during the primaries, twice.
But this just puts me off.
If a delegate can't afford to make the convention, then raise the money needed among constituents, locally. Have bake sales or whatever.
I resent using Bernie's national email database to raise further funds.
The primaries are over.
Hillary won.
I support her now.
This appeal just strikes me as tacky and not at all classy.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,240 posts)train without a fight.
katmondoo
(6,457 posts)trof
(54,256 posts)If Bernie sanctioned this he's lowered himself IMO.
Human101948
(3,457 posts)There's certainly no obligation for accepting those donations.
George II
(67,782 posts)I've been following politics for 40+ years, never saw a candidate asking for money so his delegates could get to the convention.
To most delegates, being elected to a National Convention is an honor that is planned for well in advance of the convention.
Human101948
(3,457 posts)When will you give up on this Bernie bashing? Hillary has it in the bag.
Perhaps Bernie thinks that it's a good thing to help out his delegates. What's Hillary doing for her delegates?
Gothmog
(145,554 posts)There are gofundme sites for some Clinton delegates and in 2008 we held a fundraiser for a young lady going to Denver who was a single mom. She ended up in a commercial for President Obama.
I am on a private group for Clinton delegates and there are people looking for roomates and people doing fundraisers to go to Philadelphia.
As you noted, this is an honor and one that has to be planned for.
Human101948
(3,457 posts)For delegates, the cost of participating in the nominating process can run into the thousands of dollars. They often have to pay for travel to the conventions, hotel rooms, meals and incidentals. State parties may also require delegates to pay fees for participation.
To offset some of the costs, Mr. Atkinson, like a number of other delegates, has set up a fundraising campaign on the website GoFundMe, which allows people to raise money for personal and charitable causes. So far, it has produced $400 of the $800 he hopes to raise from friends and family. Mr. Atkinson, a 28-year-old lawyer from Emporia, Kan., also found a room on AirBnB for the week that is cheaper than staying with his states delegation for a single night.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/delegates-turn-to-gofundme-to-pay-way-to-conventions-1461781747
How dare Bernie try to get his delegates to the convention!
George II
(67,782 posts)These are DELEGATES raising money for themselves, not the candidate using his national contact database raising money.
Big difference.
Human101948
(3,457 posts)Other than Hillary is not helping her delegates.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)to make their way to the convention however THEY can raise the money or don't be a delegate and the other is begging his supporters to pay his delegate's way. It's not rocket science.
xmas74
(29,676 posts)still in high school, who will be a delegate for HRC. She's incredible, still in high school, and she's finding ways to raise her own fees. From what I've heard, she's already found the money and paid for it without help from family.
I'm not saying that everyone can do this but I was very impressed that she was so committed to it that she found ways to get her money.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)If you can't afford to attend the convention or don't think you can raise the funds, don't sign up to be elected a delegate.
xmas74
(29,676 posts)I knew I couldn't get the time off and that I probably couldn't get the money. The Rolling Stones once said that you can't always get what you want. I'd agree. This young woman really wanted it and decided she'd find ways to get it.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)enthusiasm with the younger voters. My parents got me involved starting with taking me and my sister into the voting booths when we were little kids. One of my earliest "political" memories was my very liberal childhood neighborhood's celebration when Nixon resigned - I was 12.
BainsBane
(53,066 posts)as well as Gofundme campaigns. Seems to me the best way to contribute to those delegates is to do so directly.
xmas74
(29,676 posts)not asking for help with a national newsletter. There's a difference.
I've known delegates and they've always known that they were expected to find the money somehow or to decline the honor. It's always been that way. Heck, I would love nothing more than to be a delegate but have never tried because I can't afford to take off work or the actual costs involved. That's life.
BainsBane
(53,066 posts)Please, do tell. If there is some pipe line to cash for Clinton supporters, I need to be tapped in.
Human101948
(3,457 posts)Maybe you can do Go Fund Me?
BainsBane
(53,066 posts)not delegates. There is no option for corporate money for delegates. They go on their own dime.
I wasn't elected a delegate to the DNC, though I did try. I only got as far as the state convention.
George II
(67,782 posts)....I'm in a small state so delegates don't have overnight stays to worry about (I'm actually 6 miles from our Convention Center) we all pay our own travel expenses, meals, etc.
BainsBane
(53,066 posts)Before the elections for Clinton delegates to the national convention, the guy conducting it warned everyone it would be very expensive, more expensive than previous national conventions. He specified what the hotel costs, estimated air fare, total costs, etc.
I didn't see the election proceedings for the Sanders delegates, so I don't know if they made a similar announcement.
dflprincess
(28,082 posts)and supplied it to anyone who thought they might want to be delegate regardless of the candidate they were supporting.
Gothmog
(145,554 posts)I am paying my own way to the convention.
George II
(67,782 posts)RichGirl
(4,119 posts)The whole point of being a delegate is to vote for your candidate. If you know your going to have to go to a convention...wouldn't you make sure you have the money well in advance? The local Democratic party could help them. They could do fundraisers.
If you apply to be delegate...first question should be...will you attend convention???
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)If one doesn't want to give, they're not being forced to.
trof
(54,256 posts)Of course we're not being "forced".
It's the asking that's demeaning.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Some will agree, others won't. Carry on!
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)aikoaiko
(34,183 posts)I think this is one of those things that happens when you don't have massive supporting super PACS.
At my caucus a discussion immediately took place after the voting about the likely costs one would encounter if they wanted to be a delegate to the state convention followed by a discussion about the cost of going onto national if they were so lucky.
One of the strong Hillary supporters was a college student and a single mother and expressed an interest in going to state but was unsure she could afford it. An older gentlemen immediately removed his hat and passed it around. Everyone contributed to the pot and she was elected as a delegate.
Does a farmer with a hat seem like a super PAC to you?
riversedge
(70,299 posts)Human101948
(3,457 posts)Nice story but the conventions are a phenomenal opportunity for corporations to buy influence.
Who's Paying for the Conventions? Corporate Sponsors Pour Millions into Party Coffers
Well, the money is given not to the convention specifically, but to the host committee for the convention, but the host committee for the conventions fundraisers are people from the party thats holding the convention, so its like giving the money directly to the party.
And what we know about them before the convention is just whatever the host committees feel like disclosing. There are no requirements to disclose the donors and the amounts that they are giving. And, in fact, neither of the host committees this year for either convention, unlike past years, have chosen to disclose officially the amounts of money that theyre getting. And the amounts are very large, because, combined, private money for support of the two conventions this year will exceed $112 million. So, all we know at this point is unofficially, or some companies have, you know, decided to release this information voluntarily.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/7/22/whos_paying_for_the_conventions_corporate
Numbers from 2008. double it and you might get the true figure for corporate graft in 2016
yardwork
(61,703 posts)Exilednight
(9,359 posts)Travel. And as we all know, many Super PACs are funded by corporations.
Human101948
(3,457 posts)It might help to counter some of this commentary.
BainsBane
(53,066 posts)When? Who? Where is your evidence?
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)Exilednight
(9,359 posts)Do Delegate Committees Have to File FEC Reports?
Possibly. A delegate committee becomes a "political committee" under federal law once it receives contributions or makes expenditures exceeding $1,000 in a calendar year. 11 CFR 100.5(a) and (e)(5); 110.14(b)(2). At that point, the committee must register with the FEC within 10 days and begin filing periodic FEC reports to disclose its receipts and disbursements. 11 CFR 102.1(d) and 104.1(a). All pre-registration activity must be disclosed in the first report. 11 CFR 104.3(a) and (b). Note that a delegate committee that has triggered status as a federal political committee must include the word "delegate" or "delegates" in its name. It may also include the name of the presidential candidate it supports. 11 CFR 102.14(b)(1).
George II
(67,782 posts)BainsBane
(53,066 posts)to go to the national convention? I get that the Madison avenue sloganeering was a key to the primary, but those elections are over. I would appreciate if you stop making accusations against Clinton supporters.
I also suggest you check the FEC and Open Secrets regarding Super Pacs for Sanders.
aikoaiko
(34,183 posts)...you think of HRC, I guess I can understand that.
I have no evidence of it happening, but it is allowed and it might explain why the OP hadn't seen a candidate fundraise for delegates before.
http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/delegate.shtml
These types of expenditures are the reason superPACS exist. It's not illegal or scandalous. It's just a part of most modern presidential elections.
I'm under the impression that Usually delegates self-pay or fundraise themselves, but i would think it a good investment to get delegates to the convention.
BainsBane
(53,066 posts)They do not exist to get delegates to conventions but because Scotus determined that private entities have the right to create and pay for political ads. They are hardly a means of funding ordinary delegates. Moreover, the knee jerk claim that Clinton delegates are bought and paid for by superpacs is insulting.
I was present at the election of delegates to the DNC from my congressional district and unsuccessfully ran for a spot myself. We were warned in advance it would be very expensive to attend the convention. We were given estimates as to what we should expect to pay for lodging, airfare, etc... No one said, "Hey, you're with Clinton so Wall Street is paying for you."
Lance Bass esquire
(671 posts)hollysmom
(5,946 posts)other people just don't care enough to support government and that is why we have the people representing us now. It is not tacky to ask money to support them, it is tacky to demand it. he is asking. Just like he is asking for people to support their local progressive candidate.
if you don't want to contribute, you don't have to, And while you are at it, you can ignore all the go fund me things you want, I don't know a lot of people using that page that, but I do have a friend with cancer who is doing it so she doesn't have to sleep in the streets when she goes for experimental treatment. You could say she already has a home why does she need more money - well because the experimental treatment is on the other side of the country. All her expendable money goes for airfare - she could skip the treatment, it probably won't save her, but it gives her a sliver of hope - she the odds are seriously stacked against her, still. she has to try. Sanders won't win, but he has to try.
trof
(54,256 posts)Isn't that enough to send some of his delegates to the convention?
He's not going to spend it on TV ads.
metroins
(2,550 posts)4736 per delegate.
I think it's an absolutely awful waste of money. All extra money (after debts) should go towards the GE and down ticket races that can be won.
No Bernie delegates even need to go to the convention, the race is over. Time to win in November.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)hollysmom
(5,946 posts)don't we want all representatives there? if there are too many delegates - cut some down. like maybe super delegates. (j/k)
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)The fights are over.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)liberal from boston
(856 posts)Senator Sanders splitting campaign donations to Progressive Democrats:
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/15/as-sanders-campaign-wraps-up-down-ballot-candidates-reap-big-bern-rewards.html
shireen
(8,333 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)...basically have the same constituency.
Me.
(35,454 posts)Why the Senator doesn't use some of those millions he has banked to get his delegates to the convention.
riversedge
(70,299 posts)then the convention. That money is going to evaporate quickly.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)an individual who has put themselves forward as a potential delegate to a national convention, would have understood from the beginning that there might be travel costs involved. Granted rates will be high and it may challenge some budgets, but to have not understood that from the beginning to me is at best a bit unusual.
I support Bernie's campaign and efforts, but this is a bit peculiar.
trof
(54,256 posts)Human101948
(3,457 posts)For delegates, the cost of participating in the nominating process can run into the thousands of dollars. They often have to pay for travel to the conventions, hotel rooms, meals and incidentals. State parties may also require delegates to pay fees for participation.
To offset some of the costs, Mr. Atkinson, like a number of other delegates, has set up a fundraising campaign on the website GoFundMe, which allows people to raise money for personal and charitable causes. So far, it has produced $400 of the $800 he hopes to raise from friends and family. Mr. Atkinson, a 28-year-old lawyer from Emporia, Kan., also found a room on AirBnB for the week that is cheaper than staying with his states delegation for a single night.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/delegates-turn-to-gofundme-to-pay-way-to-conventions-1461781747
How dare Bernie try to get his delegates to the convention!
synergie
(1,901 posts)you're saying? That delegates are doing their job and seeking to raise funds on their own is somehow terrible because it's Hillary, but when Bernie's delegates can't figure out how to plan ahead or do anything on their own and needs Bernie to do, as you put it, the 'begging' for them then that is pure and honorable?
How dare Hillary's delegates do what delegates have always done and seek to raise the money to pay their way to the convention? Why, it would be so much more honorable if they just demanded that she do it for them and "beg for money" on their behalf, like Bernie is doing?
What interesting double standards you have!
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)representation for a change.
yardwork
(61,703 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Bernie still had millions in campaign cash. Why not use that? Seems a bit odd to me, but it's not like donations are mandatory.
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SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Retrograde
(10,156 posts)I know two people who were urged to run as delegates but declined because Philadelphia was just too expensive for them. If the money is going to delegates who need it, I think that's a good use for it. I've never heard of this being done before though - is it a legal use of campaign funds?
Txbluedog
(1,128 posts)This is just a cover story when all of the 1900+ don't show up.....
They realize that with Hillary being the presumptive nominee, a lot of people including delegates have lost interest. I am guessing that the delegates are demanding that the campaign pay their way or they aren't going
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oberliner
(58,724 posts)Isn't up to the delegates to figure out a way to get themselves to the convention?
mcar
(42,372 posts)tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)Why isn't he helping?
Human101948
(3,457 posts)For delegates, the cost of participating in the nominating process can run into the thousands of dollars. They often have to pay for travel to the conventions, hotel rooms, meals and incidentals. State parties may also require delegates to pay fees for participation.
To offset some of the costs, Mr. Atkinson, like a number of other delegates, has set up a fundraising campaign on the website GoFundMe, which allows people to raise money for personal and charitable causes. So far, it has produced $400 of the $800 he hopes to raise from friends and family. Mr. Atkinson, a 28-year-old lawyer from Emporia, Kan., also found a room on AirBnB for the week that is cheaper than staying with his states delegation for a single night.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/delegates-turn-to-gofundme-to-pay-way-to-conventions-1461781747
How dare Bernie try to get his delegates to the convention!
LuvLoogie
(7,028 posts)Human101948
(3,457 posts)Thanks for your input.
synergie
(1,901 posts)who according to you are not as responsible or proactive like the Hillary delegate you've been disparaging, and when Bernie does it's pure and good, but when a millennial HRC delegate plans out his trip and expenses and sets up a funding page so that his friends and family can help him out, it's somehow a black mark against Hillary?
Repeating the same thing over and over by spamming this thread doesn't seem to be helping you to grasp the facts or understand your clear double standards here.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)OMG the hypocrisy we have to respond to !!!1!!1
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)cosmicone
(11,014 posts)through SSI.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)(I knew that, but it stands in stark contrast to previous words)
synergie
(1,901 posts)are advocating for? Why do you want Medicare for all, when so many require additional insurance because the current system is inadequate? These things just see, to be buzzwords for you guys, and Bernue too, like you really did nit do your homework and don't realize what you are talking about in the least.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)BainsBane
(53,066 posts)Sanders has actually paid out money for delegate travel.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)LuvLoogie
(7,028 posts)Gothmog
(145,554 posts)It is no secret as to the costs of being a delegate
I will give a report when I get back
MagickMuffin
(15,952 posts)That's why I'm asking you directly:
Make a $2.70 contribution to our campaign before Thursday's midnight FEC deadline to help our delegates come to the Democratic convention so we can have our entire political revolution represented next month in Philadelphia.
You'd be shocked at how expensive it is to attend the Democratic convention. It can cost more than $4,000 per delegate!
I wonder why your donation is a lot larger than the one I received?
caraher
(6,279 posts)My email asked for the amount of my largest donation to the campaign.
MariaThinks
(2,495 posts)nominee.
I am extremely revolted by this behavior.
Bernie only cares about Bernie.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)money locally -- and to not run for delegate if they don't think they can get the money together. This doesn't limit it to people who can fund their own way; the national delegates I know all relied on local fundraising. Going to the national convention isn't a junket. It's a serious commitment that should be viewed as a work trip.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)I've never been close enough to any delegate to know how they were funded.
On it's face if candidates for office can do that, and they do, I don't see what makes it a special problem for convention delegates.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Brickbat
(19,339 posts)I'm in MN.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Brickbat
(19,339 posts)HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Many delegates were elected months ago, they should have started planning back then for the trip.
k8conant
(3,030 posts)that our hotel cost was $229 + tax per night. Fortunately, I have gotten 2 roommates since then (one Bernie; one Hillary) so that's down to 76.34 + tax per night or $381.70 + tax for 5 nights. I happen to be lucky enough to be only 180 miles from King of Prussia (where our WV delegation will stay at the DoubleTree) so I'll drive there and home for under $30 in gas. Meals? I don't know. I think breakfast is included, so maybe another $200? I'm not sure about incidentals.
So far I have raised $174 on gofundme.com/kate2philly and $10 other. I lowered my funding total from $2000 to $1000 after I got the roommates. The Bernie campaign had us fill out financial forms which I expect they'll use to see how to divvy up the funds that they have. I'll get there regardless and want to see others get there (many of whom must pay up to $650 * 5 = $3250 for hotel and up to $1200 for round-trip airfare). One thing that happened is that those who don't stay at the hotels must still get their credentials at the hotel each morning).
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)It sounds like all you guys are handling it. At $250/night I'd likely have planned on sleeping in my car and/or commuting in from some distant Motel 6 where I could get a shower (and maybe sharing that! lol), but I'm glad you'll be comfy and convenient, and right in the middle of it. Enjoy.
Trajan
(19,089 posts)I sent a number of donations today to different down ticket dems on Bernie's list. .. I'm happy to contribute for this cause as well ....
trof
(54,256 posts)It's entirely up to you how you spend your money.
I just don't see this as a "cause".
.
hay rick
(7,639 posts)Helping Bernie delegates get to the convention is not taking a swipe at Hillary. I personally know 3 Bernie delegates and they are all doing local fundraisers to help pay for their stay. They are working/middle class and don't have $4,000+ lying around. I also know 3 Hillary delegates and they are not doing fundraisers. They are a lawyer, a nurse married to a doctor, and a pharmacist married to a doctor. If you really want to support Hillary, attacking Bernie and his supporters is counterproductive.
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)Others do it another.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)... enough money to get delegates to the convention
DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)First he doesn't raise money for fellow dems now he does and it's bad?
What gives?
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)Delegates are not "fellow dems." Got it. That crazy Bernie!
retrowire
(10,345 posts)Go on... you can say it!
psst... they're fellow dems.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)The funds are being used for a self-serving purpose so that the Bernie people will actually show up as a futile exercise.
After the campaign takes its administrative cut, some dollars will trickle down .. hopefully!
BlueMTexpat
(15,373 posts)of appeal before in a Dem Presidential race.
In some cases I know that local Dem party chapters have held fundraising activities to help offset travel costs for Dem delegates generally. But these activities have never been on behalf of a specific candidate's delegates only. They were intended to help ALL elected local Dem delegates.
And yes, delegates are generally responsible for their own costs otherwise. Still. local volunteers often open their homes to house delegates who might otherwise find hotels too expensive, and to provide meals and other amenities, etc.
This is what being a Dem means.
sangfroid
(212 posts)I've been to more than one meeting where donations were requested for delegates who didn't have airfare, week hotel costs, eats, whatever. Not everyone is lucky to be covered by local volunteers (I slept on a church floor one year), so let's not assume your experience is the only experience.
BlueMTexpat
(15,373 posts)a LOT like mine. Perhaps I didn't communicate as well as I should have.
What I was saying was specifically in response to having the losing candidate's campaign send out a fund-raising letter for ALL their delegates and their delegates alone.
That I have never seen.
jalan48
(13,883 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)It's about a progressive platform. Not personalities.
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)MH1
(17,600 posts)for Bernie to try to raise funds to defray their costs.
I really don't get the issue with it.
Shebear
(29 posts)... a lot of the delegates are young and of modest means... the Dem party should be welcoming them into the political process, not bad-mouthing them or their candidate.
hay rick
(7,639 posts)We have some sore winners here.
ciaobaby
(1,000 posts)Duval
(4,280 posts)Where do others go when they need money? Sigh!
Hekate
(90,793 posts)ciaobaby
(1,000 posts)accepts all voices. That is what being a democrat used to be about.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)... Who's this movement?
BainsBane
(53,066 posts)Sheesh.
Trajan
(19,089 posts)Let's make sure it is sufficiently 'Democratic' before we seal the book ...
Other than that ? ... *
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)where do we begin with the transgressions list?
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)I think that it is tacky that delegates have to pay $4000 to vote at the convention. What with all the expenses of hotel and transportation, and other stuff, and the amount of money that the Democratic Party has, they should have at least been able to get steep discounts for delegates.
I also understand that there was supposed to be a program where ANY delegate to the Dem convention could get a stipend, if they were of low income. According to one of my local delegates, this did not happen.
THIS is what is tacky and not at all classy.
Bernie taking it to his supporters is the only smart thing to do.
BainsBane
(53,066 posts)And are you specifically talking about the DNC or all Democratic politicians combined?
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)That they are getting many corporations to sponsor the event. With the proper leadership, they could easily get more sponsorships to fund the delegates who cannot afford to go to the convention. They could also negotiate deep discounts with hotels, restaurants, and other places. I have done it with my little environmental group for a long time. They have their "professionals" whereas I am just a volunteer.
At any rate, the Democratic Party has many multi-millionaires, especially in the Senate who could EASILY fund a few delegates each!
phazed0
(745 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)pnwmom
(108,994 posts)SheilaT
(23,156 posts)surely you understand that there will be costs involved. And you should be prepared to come up with the money needed.
In 2004 I lost an election to be a delegate from my state, and immediately after the votes were counted, the person who won had the audacity to ask for contributions to help pay for her going to the convention. Needless to say, I was outraged, as I'd already planned ahead and knew that I could afford to go.
I guess she raised the money somehow, because I know she went.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)I guess somehow it's bad for poor people to expect to be able to witness or participate in party conventions, cuz that privilege follows money. Sort a sounds like a system needs to filter out all those folks who expect free-stuff.
If candidates can accept money from big donors not in their states or districts, I really don't understand people getting upset about delegates being given help from other voters willing to donate for that purpose.
MH1
(17,600 posts)Fundraising to act as the representative they were elected to be, is not okay? So only people with money need apply.
Got it.
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cosmicone
(11,014 posts)$230 million went through the campaign. Wasn't there any money set aside for this eventuality? It's not like it was unforeseen.
BainsBane
(53,066 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)My, my..
George II
(67,782 posts)....to the convention.
In fact, he could afford to send ALL of them to the convention with less than half of his remaining funds.
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uponit7771
(90,364 posts)BainsBane
(53,066 posts)tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)ROFL!
liberal N proud
(60,344 posts)I raised two kids, I have stopped paying for their party, not willing to fund another.
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)WhiteTara
(29,722 posts)Every delegate pays their own way. I can't say what I am thinking.
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)individual delegate to raise funds to go to the national convention.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....in early December and I've been getting four or five solicitations from the Sanders campaign ever since.
Get your name deleted and you'll still continue to get them from DFA.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)I'm going to help a delegate out because I am not physically able to do much of anything anymore.
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ReRe
(10,597 posts)... did you just make the latter part of that statement up out of whole cloth? BS is going to fly to Tibet with the Dalai Lama? Reputable links please, at least three.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Gothmog
(145,554 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)... I sometimes can't tell when responses are sarcasm, with the changing format of politics on this site. Please be patient with this old soul.
trof
(54,256 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)Lookit, what your OP does would be alright on a Hilary-only website, but this is NOT HillaryUnderground. This is DemocraticUnderground. You're damn right, I care. I care about the loss of Free Speech. About vileness of censorship. About what it means to be a Democrat. I care about the loss of civility, which I think your OP is not a very good example of. Your attitude is chilish and snide, and frankly, I can't believe you were ever a Bernie Sanders supporter.
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R B Garr
(16,975 posts)You have to make sure your credit cards are always paid down and current so you can afford all the plane trips and hotel rooms to go harass lawmakers in the name of The People.
Yet, he can't even get his delegates to the Convention, so how is the rest of the revolution going to afford constant trips.
tavernier
(12,400 posts)You've worked hard... Time for a little vacation.
oasis
(49,407 posts)MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Why doesn't he just pay for them? Also, why is he demanding a private jet in order to campaign for Clinton? Sounds like he might have gotten a little big for his britches.
Number23
(24,544 posts)uponit7771
(90,364 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)This is bizarre.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,240 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)uponit7771
(90,364 posts)... something isn't right
WolverineDG
(22,298 posts)Hillary & Bernie delegates both.
No one complained then.
What's the problem now? (Other than you don't want Bernie delegates at the National Convention)
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Nobody should give a damn what Hillary supporters think about this, as they oppose anything Bernie does.
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)No Clinton bashing, no Sanders bashing, and yet we have an "I can't believe Sanders would do such a thing" post. Delightful...just delightful.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Good anti-Trump strategy there.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)as a wholly appropriate thing to do- in stark contrast with some of the commenters. jmho
Marr
(20,317 posts)It's also counterproductive.
Just fyi.
trof
(54,256 posts)Troll?
Really?
Read the OP again.
shireen
(8,333 posts)He can put it to good use, either sending it to other candidates or helping out delegates who cannot afford to travel.
trof
(54,256 posts)Now I hate Bernie and his supporters and I'm a troll?
Read the OP again.
The part about how I supported Bernie?
Read the part about how this old, retired geezer gave 70 bucks to the Sanders campaign out of his S/S benefit that he could ill afford.
I have no idea if Bernie even knows about the email I received, but it had his name on it.
in my 50+ years of observing and working in presidential campaigns I've never heard of a candidate soliciting funds from campaign contributors to send his delegates to the convention.
Let's dial it back a little, OK?
I've never alerted on a post in the 14 years I've been here and I don't want to start now.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Bernie is upfront about it, says exactly what the donation is for, and nobody is obligated to donate.
Criminy, if Hillary did this, it would be the greatest thing since sliced bread. I don't get the Bernie hate - I really don't.