Holy shit! Maybe Republicans are finally getting a clue!

[Scuba]

A Republican friend sent me this, which she said came from facebook ....

I feel the need to drop a little truth on y'all. So buckle up...I'm about to be politically incorrect.

We don't need to take America back. No one stole it. It's right here...you're sitting in it. Chillax.

Mexico isn't going to pay for the wall and we're not going to deport millions of people and break up families. If you think either one is a good idea, you're not smart and probably not a person I want to hang out with.

We don't live in a democracy. Technically we are a Federal Republic. But in reality we are ruled by an oligarchy. If you don't know what that is, look it up. Reading will do you good. You probably need to do more of it.

FoxNews, CNN, and MSNBC have an agenda and are not "fair and balanced" or in any way unbiased. I'll reiterate...read more. Read newspapers (even online ones). Read lots of opinions and sources and then (stay with me here), THINK! Form your own opinion based on as many facts as your can brain can tolerate.

Speaking of facts...there actually is a difference between facts, opinions, and propaganda. You should learn the difference. (Another opportunity to show off your mad reading skills.)

Science is real. We know things because of science. Don't be afraid of it. You have an iPhone and Facebook because of science. It's your friend.

Global warming or "climate change" as the cool kids call it IS REAL. Anyone who tells you it's not real is not a smart person and probably should not be dressing themselves or caring for children.

Racism exists. And you are probably a little racist and should work on that. Seriously.

American Christians are not under attack. We are not being persecuted. We wield so much power in this country that politicians pretend to be Christian just so we will vote for them. No one is trying to take your bible away from you. The gay people are not destroying our families—we don't need any help from them, thank you. We do a fine job of that by ourselves. So stop saying we are persecuted. You sound stupid.

Poor people need help. If you're not helping them but complaining about how the government helps them with your money you are not a nice person.

Be nice to the people who teach your children. Don't send them nasty emails or yell at them. Their job is 10,000 times harder than your stupid job. You are not a professional educator so just shut your mouth and be thankful someone is willing to teach your offspring.

You don't know what Common Core is. You think you do, but you don't unless you're a teacher. So stop complaining about math problem memes on Facebook. You can't do the math anyway.

ISIS is not an existential threat to the United States. We do not need to rebuild our military. Our military is the strongest, scariest, most badass killing machine the world has ever seen. So stop being afraid and stop letting politicians and pundits scare you.

Guns do in fact kill people. That's what they are designed to do. If you feel you need a gun to protect yourself in America, you are probably living in the wrong neighborhood and should move before you go out and buy a gun. There are like a billion places to live where you won't need a gun, or even need to lock your front door.

If you do own a gun, then make sure you know how to use it really, really, really well. Seriously...get some training because you still don't know how to record stuff with your DVR. Go to the gun range and shoot the thing a lot. Learn how to clean it properly and be able to disassemble it and reassemble it with your eyes closed. It's a freaking gun and it deserves that level of care, proficiency and respect. And for God's sake, keep it locked up and away from your kids.

If you are even a little bit crazy, sad, or pissed off...you shouldn't have a gun. And the Founding Fathers would totally agree with me.

Stop being suspicious of American Muslims. I guarantee the guy sitting next to you in the cubicle at work is probably more of a threat to you than any Muslim. He has to listen to your uninformed ranting day after day and has probably already imagined very colorful and creative ways to end you.

Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, and all the rest are ENTERTAINERS! Stop getting your opinions from them. (Here's where that reading thing can really be an advantage.)

Stop sharing Facebook memes that tell me to share or else Jesus won't bless me with a laundry basket full of cash. That's not how prayer works. And I don't want money delivered (even from God) in a laundry basket. Nobody ever washes those things out and they just keep putting nasty dirty clothes in them. Yuck!

We are the United States of America and we can afford to house every homeless veteran, feed every child, and take in every refugee and still have money left over for Starbucks and a bucket of KFC.

Unless you can trace your family line back to someone who made deerskin pants look stylish and could field dress a buffalo, you are a descendent of an immigrant. Please stop saying that immigrants are ruining our country. Such comments are like a giant verbal burrito stuffed with historical ignorance, latent racism, and xenophobia all wrapped in a fascist tortilla.

That's all for now. I feel better.

[C_U_L8R]

1. Enlightened

I'd suggest that your friend is no Republican.
It's like being a member of the clan just for the picnics and costumes.

[Scuba]

3. She voted for Obama in 2008 because of Sarah Palin being on the R ticket. Voted Romney in 2012.

[Chicago1980]

13. And 2016?

[TacoD]

31. Sounds a lot like my parents. Obama 08, Romney 12, Clinton 16 (nt)

[47of74]

39. Mine too

And in addition to Palin they were worried McCain would get us into more wars.

[AntiBank]

80. shame that part didnt work out so good

[ChairmanAgnostic]

5. she was a republican like many others, except

the Party moved away from them, and went right wing nutz.

Do not forget that Abe Lincoln was a republican. Chuck Percy, and a whole slew of moderate thinking, pragmatic, and effective supporters of equal rights, EPA, social justice and economic fairness came out of that party. But that party no longer exists. It is now the party of Ted Cruz, Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin, and their ilk. For them, the mere act of "thinking" and of seeking compromise and solutions are so hard, that they prefer to do the opposite.

[PJMcK]

9. Excellent point, ChairmanAgnostic

Today's "Republican" Party wouldn't even support Ronald Reagan let alone Dwight Eisenhower or even Richard Nixon, (shudder).

The elevation of The Stupid in the GOP has retarded the advancement of the United States in almost every aspect of our national life.

Get rid of the Republicans. Vote a straight Democratic ticket in November.

[PatrickforO]

15. That's what I'm gonna do.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

33. I am still shaking my head at Nixon's list

EPA
Clean Water
Clean Air
SALT treaties with the USSR
SS benefits funded
VA issues resolved
major roads and bridges maintained


Today, the GOP would be calling his a democratic socialist.

Yeah, he was a paranoid criminal, but that does not seem to stop the political process in our country anymore.

[bigbrother05]

51. In college in the 70's, would call the John Birch Society's hotline

Let Freedom Ring for laughs. My favorite was one calling Nixon a "left wing internationalist" for opening up to China.

That was daddy Koch's shtick, no wonder they are such lovable boys.

[Volaris]

77. That list exists because the sane half of Nixons brain

Was rightly scared shitless that liberal protesters outside the white house were going to breach the barricades and 'get him'.
And that's EXACTLY where Power should be in America, ALWAYS..With We The People. Politicians exist for OUR betterment, not the other way around. Too many of us have forgotten..

[ChairmanAgnostic]

78. Makes sense

But what is trump afraid of, other than a Strange barber or stylist?

[bvar22]

58. Rachel laid it out for us.

[oberliner]

16. Abe Lincoln was not a Republican

He was a member of a party that bears the same name as the one that exists today but isn't remotely similar in any respect.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

25. yeah, but

it reads better my way.

[oberliner]

28. Fair enough

I just hate how Republicans pull that line out all the time about being the party of Lincoln. An 1860 Republican and a 2016 Republican are not at all the same.

[eppur_se_muova]

68. And worth remembering that the 1864 Repubs (renamed) nominated John C. Fremont.

Lincoln was the leader of the country in the middle of a Civil War, but party hardliners dumped him. Lincoln ran as the nominee of the National Union Party, which was formed from a coalition of Repubs and Democrats, and Fremont withdrew. So much for that "supporting our President during wartime" meme today's Repugs love so much.

[Fozzledick]

30. The modern Republican party isn't the party of Lincoln

and it hasn't been since they kicked out Teddy Roosevelt for being too progressive.

The last decent Republicans were Linc Chafee and Jim Jeffords, and they left because they couldn't stand it anymore.

[certainot]

40. it's the party of limbaugh. and those talk radio gods are NOT entertainers

they are part of a 25 years old think tank scripted and coordinated classic military style PSYOPS

[SalviaBlue]

55. Yep.

[Mendocino]

70. TR was no saint,

it was on his watch that the US committed unspeakable acts in the Philippines.

[Fozzledick]

75. True, but he was still too progressive for the Republican Party of his time

and it's only gotten worse since then.

[Mendocino]

76. TR was an unapologetic war monger.

He called Africans "ape-like naked savages". He was a devout follower of eugenics. He once stated "I don't go as far that the only good indians are dead indians, but I believe nine out of ten are and I shouldn't like to inquire too closely into the case of the tenth."

[LiberalArkie]

6. Sounds old school Republican.

[Rockyj]

81. This advice is the same for Democrats too!

Obviously!

[Old Codger]

2. Truths n/a

[Silver_Witch]

4. Wonderful rant!

Did you find it on Fox news? No! Oh then Republicans are not getting it!

[davidthegnome]

7. Hmm. I don't really think so.

With respect for those few among them who are indeed intelligent, educated, and/or reasonable human beings... the vast majority of them are so ridiculously stupid and ignorant that them "getting a clue" is the equivalent of the proverbial snowball's chance in hell.

Good post - but this person ought to be a democrat, they are too smart to be a republican.

[tenderfoot]

8. Link to the original post...

https://lamontemfowler.com/2016/02/22/dropping-some-truth/

[PJMcK]

11. Thans, tenderfoot

I wondered where the original came from. It's a great piece of writing!

[Scuba]

17. Thanks!

[progressoid]

21. From an "indie"

An indie who seems to lean left by the looks of his other posts.

[harun]

54. Sure as hell wasn't written by a Republican

[Scuba]

69. No, but it was forwarded to me by one.

[harun]

85. Good

You know, this weekend I visited my inlaws who are pretty typical right wing rednecks. They were really upset Bernie was out of the race so they could have someone good to vote for. For them to even consider a Progressive floored me.

Oh well.

[Martin Eden]

10. I could not read this ...

... without giving it a Yuuuuuge K&R.

[Liberalagogo]

12. Sorry, but no

If she was getting a clue, why is she still a Republican?

Nice thinking, but until she drops them like the bags of shit they are, no respect for her.

[CrispyQ]

20. Don't worry.

She'll drop the repubs & join the big tent dem party.

[PatrickforO]

14. This person is a Republican?

Very sane...

[ailsagirl]

73. A sane repuke?? Isn't that an oxymoron??

Just sayin'

[PeaceNikki]

18. The source

https://lamontemfowler.com/2016/02/22/dropping-some-truth/

[Scuba]

19. Thanks!

[spanone]

22. well, one republican 'gets' it.

[Sunlei]

23. Another facebook preacher. Get off facebook & twitter would be a start.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

36. What the holy fuck? Facebook preacher? Why should anyone get off of facebook or Twitter? nt

[geek tragedy]

24. sounds like a former Republican, not a current one nt

[Liberalagogo]

26. NOTICE

Not one word about the middle class and the economic gap, Wall Street shenanigans, and the corrupt banks.
Sorry, but she's all about her $$$$ and only her $$$$.

[jwirr]

35. Or Corporations and the TPP.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

37. Oh for fucksake! Not one word about blah blah blah... DISCREDITS THE ENTIRE RANT!!! nt

[FlaGranny]

46. That's a pretty common reaction

around here. Give a great speech but discard the whole thing because of one omission.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

60. NOTICE:

That would be physically impossible.

[edbermac]

61. Jury results

On Mon Jun 13, 2016, 02:13 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

FFS
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7909124

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

"Why don't you go fuck yourself?" is obviously over the top and inappropriate.

JURY RESULTS

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Jun 13, 2016, 02:20 PM, and the Jury voted 6-1 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: way over the top for a DU post...
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Temper, temper!
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Poster was responding to a bully.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

62. LOL!

Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Poster was responding to a bully.


Hahahaha! So my not putting up with being bullied and my response to being bullied makes me the bully? Hahahahahaha! Juror #7, I don't know who you are but thanks for the laugh and...bless your heart, you poor thing.

ETA: Hey Juror #7, reveal thyself. Be brave and make your case directly to me. I'll be waiting because I'm sure you'd like the opportunity to indict me to my face (as it were).

[edbermac]

63. I was #6

[Pluvious]

43. At least it's a start

I'll go with the glass being half full

[IL Lib]

27. Great Post

Thanks for the post. I googled the author and found additional links.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lamonte-m-fowler/read-this-before-you-taking-back-america_b_9348420.html

https://twitter.com/MontyFowler

[Fozzledick]

29. K&R for the best rant I've seen in a long time.

[narnian60]

53. +100

[Vogon_Glory]

32. Some Republicans may have retained their sanity or become wise BUT

Some Republicans may have retained their sanity or have become wise, BUT they are outnumbered by the Republicans' lunatic factions or lack control of the Republican Party's political machinery.

I left any affiliations with the Republican Party behind decades ago before the hard right finished cementing its control over the Texas GOP because I don't like where the Texas Republican Party was going. I felt that if I stayed in the Texas Republican Party, the most I could aspire to would be as a "useful idiot" for the Radical Right's reactionary counter-revolution.

Perhaps your Facebook friend is realizing this only now. Or perhaps she'll allow herself to be scammed again.

[zentrum]

34. Are you sure she's Republican?

I'm floored.

Because if all these are her true feelings——why?

Why is she still calling herself a Republican?

[Scuba]

59. Much of her social and business networks rotate around the Republican Party. She's a lifer ...

... regardless of the current faces and policies the party puts out front.

[zentrum]

82. Well, maybe she ....

...can change her party from the inside, just as Bernie is trying to do with the Democratic Party.

[Scuba]

84. That's what she says she's trying to do. Forwarding this rant was a good step.

[Equinox Moon]

38. This is a Democrat OP

[Stonepounder]

41. Fer cryin out loud.

Who cares whether the writer is a Republican, Democrat, Independent, or Pastafarian?

It is a great rant and sums up nicely what is wrong with the Republican Party today. And no, the Republican Party of today is not the Party of Lincoln. That all changed for good when LBJ pushed through the Civil Rights Act and swung the 'solid South' from (D) to (R) and the (R)'s said 'Thank You Very Much' and went bat-shit crazy wooing the Right-Wing lunatic fringe.

[quarbis]

42. NONE !!!!!!!!!

[becca656]

44. Republicans Getting a Clue

Won't happen. Tomorrow, some manufactured outrage will take place, or Drumpf will say something or not, or some other shiny thing will take place and Republicans will conveniently forget all of this.

They have the memory of a gnat

[treestar]

45. I like that

very blunt.

[roamer65]

47. Today's Democratic Party is the Republican Party of 60 years ago.

Eisenhower would be a communist to the current whack jobs that claim to be Republicans, if he were running for office now.

[zentrum]

83. Yes, but even

....Eisenhower was more protective of unions and SS than many current Democrats are, regardless of their rhetoric.

Reagan was the great transformer. Pulled everything way right.

[disillusioned73]

48. K&R..

that's fantastic..

I might have to share it myself.. I know there are several "friends" on my FB account that hopefully will de-friend me once I let loose the political dragon.. and I have been waiting for something like this to let it fly..

[potone]

49. Very good; I would only make one correction.

We are no longer even an oligarchy; we are a plutocracy.

[Festivito]

50. A few more steps to go, but, what an improvement! eom

[jamese777]

52. Utah and Kansas

There is current polling data showing Clinton tied with Trump in Utah and leading Trump in Kansas.
Those are two of the most reliably Republican states in the Union. In 2012 Barack Obama only got 25% of the vote in Utah and 38% in Kansas.

[kairos12]

56. +1000

[ChiciB1]

64. I Checked The Links... Loved The Rant AND YES, Hillary IS

much closer to a Republican before they went WHACK JOB. Non-the-less, I DO actually know some Repubs "personally" who think Hillary is probably even MORE of a war hawk.

I happen to live in a VERY RED county and there's no way you can simply NOT be friends with R's. They KNOW I'm left of the CURRENT Democratic Party but we agree on many things.

While most don't LIKE OR TRUST Hillary they do see her as "less of a Democrat" than most Democrats they know. WE HAVE HAD "the discussion" about what's happened to their Party, but they've turned the question back on me.

My consensus is that BOTH the Repubs AND Dems ARE NOT what they once were. Repubs went very, very far right, Democrats in their opinion are much more right leaning. They have actually voted for some of the DLC/Third Way types.

Of course, we DO differ the it comes to Bernie, but they DON'T dislike him and think his views would be very helpful for millions of people.

NOBODY here has to believe me, don't care if you do... but just wanted to share this information. Some of the Repubs will be switching to Independents and this is another topic that's generated a LOT OF DISCUSSION. I'm WITH THEM. So, maybe after 2016... we'll be parr of the SAME party!

Dems and Repubs SHOULD take a very close look... BOTH THE apparent nominees simply are VERY MUCH DISLIKED! It IS What IT IS! They DO jab me with who DWS is and why we've put up with her and I on the other hand talk about Reince Preibus! Some things stay the same.

Of course, Hillary supporters here simply are UNABLE to see or accept this point of view. If those of us here could convince some here of just ONE topic it would be GREAT! One of the biggest is how MUCH OF A WAR HAWK she is!!

These friends of mine and I DO AGREE on this issue and are sick of how much damage we've done in the Middle East! Hillary simply means WAR remains a fear we have about her!

But, to those of you who ignore this... Please PROCEED!

[world wide wally]

65. Reminds me of seeing Susan Collins on tv the other day saying something to the affect of:

Yes, Hillary is a brilliant, honest and hard working woman who I in fact had the great pleasure of working with and is very capable of leading the country. Trump is an idiot blowhard. But I feel compelled to vote for him because he is the "Republican"

This alone should disqualify her from holding any office. She's too fucking stupid.

[Lazy Daisy]

66. LIES!!

That friend is a "commie librul" in Republican clothing!!! How dare they make sense and pass it on!!!
The nerve of some people thinking they can think all by themselves, cause you know, 2nd Amendment. I KNOW MY RIGHTS!!!!



Kuddos to your friend Bless them. May they keep planting the seeds of reason everywhere they go.

[drm604]

67. Actually I wouldn't mind a laundry basket full of money, whoever delivered it.

But I totally agree with the rest of this.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

71. That's a great rant! So many perfect points. But--Stop kicking women around--

Well, I'm sure he'd have said it better, but it
would have been nice if he remembered the repukes are set on destroying us, too.

I so wish the war on women didn't always fall off the list.

[robbob]

72. Some of the comments at the original blog are hysterical

https://lamontemfowler.com/2016/02/22/dropping-some-truth/

There's a poster who has a problem with Newton's first law of motion (an object in motion tends to remain in motion, etc. etc.) because, as they put it "do you ever see this in real life?". i tried to explain in a reply post that this refers to a theoretical object that is in motion in a vacuum, unaffected by the pull of gravitational forces or the friction created by drag, but I couldn't get my reply to "post", so I gave up.

Another poster had already tried to explain the concept of "unless acted on by an outside force...", but the original poster just doubled down with "when would that ever happen in the REAL world; isn't gravity everywhere?", so I figured I was probably wasting my time anyway.

<on edit> The poster made their observations in regards to this part of the rant:

"Science is real. We know things because of science. Don't be afraid of it. You have an iPhone and Facebook because of science. It's your friend. "

<on edit> what made the comment extra hysterical is that the poster was very proud of themselves for pointing out why Newton was wrong. They have probably been working on this refutation of Newtons law since high school...

[Skittles]

74. she knows all that, but thought Romney should be president?

[midnight]

79. "We are the United States of America and we can afford to house every homeless veteran,

feed every child, and take in every refugee and still have money left over for Starbucks and a bucket of KFC."


Absolutely….