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Fri May 27, 2016, 04:16 PM

Oh, Donald tell us the real reason why you back out of having a debate with Sen. Sanders?

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I don't buy it for a minute that because you worried about the Democratic nomination process is rigged! You are afraid he won't back down from you during all your insults and BS lines of untruth facts. You won't be able hide from any other debates from here on out, which either Hillary or Bernie won't be easy to push around!

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Reply Oh, Donald tell us the real reason why you back out of having a debate with Sen. Sanders? (Original post)
imanamerican63 May 2016 OP
JHB May 2016 #1
bjo59 May 2016 #2
no_hypocrisy May 2016 #3
Tal Vez May 2016 #4
Scientific May 2016 #6
Tal Vez May 2016 #8
beachbumbob May 2016 #5
world wide wally May 2016 #7
gratuitous May 2016 #9
world wide wally May 2016 #11
tavernier May 2016 #15
smirkymonkey May 2016 #10
Walk away May 2016 #12
struggle4progress May 2016 #13
madokie May 2016 #14
tammywammy May 2016 #16

Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 04:18 PM

1. He still doesn't know what the nuclear triad is...

...and Bernie might ask.

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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 04:20 PM

2. Maybe he's afraid that he might have to face Bernie Sanders in the General Election.

That's not the way it was planned to work out, either for him or Hillary Clinton. Trump is a fake threat to the system. Sanders is a real one.

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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 04:31 PM

3. Trump was trying to avoid a Joseph Welch moment.



Watch the whole thing but the part I'm specifying starts at 1:05 to 1:20.

BTW, at 2:05, check out Trump BFF until AIDS, Roy Cohn, who was McCarthy's BFF until the party ended.

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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 04:32 PM

4. I think he would tell you that he won as much as he could win from this situation.

Trump is very conscious of how he appears vis-a-vis others around him. In this case, he succeeded in placing himself in a dominant position vis-a-vis Sanders. He had Sanders waiting for Trump to decide for both of them what they will be doing next week. Sanders was made to appear to be at home hoping and waiting that Trump would call and oblige Sanders by appearing at a debate with Sanders. Trump kept the ball in his court at all times. He was in control of the outcome. Sanders allowed himself to be placed in a submissive role, waiting to learn what Trump would give him. Trump loves this kind of thing. He loves to appear to be dominating and controlling everyone around him.

So, what more did Trump have to gain by an actual debate? He already demonstrated his dominance over Sanders. As far as Trump is concerned, he won the moment - he won the real debate. "Sorry, Sanders, I can't help you. I'm the nominee. You will never be my equal. Thanks for waiting for me to decide your future. I did the best I could for you. I hope you understand that."

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Response to Tal Vez (Reply #4)

Fri May 27, 2016, 04:37 PM

6. Those are sure some fancy excuses for someone who plain chickened out

Throw down a challenge, and then whimp out like Trump is doing? Well, you can make all the carnival excuses you want, but it's still a super massive Republican chicken out.

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Response to Scientific (Reply #6)

Fri May 27, 2016, 04:53 PM

8. Well, that's the way Trump sees these things.

For Trump, everything is about appearances and dominance. Sanders very patiently and submissively waited for Trump to decide his future.

As I posted this morning, Sanders blew an opportunity to seize the initiative. He should have told Trump that there would be no fundraising involved because, quite frankly, Trump is a con man and cannot be trusted with the money. By just saying that, Sanders would be landing punches before the debate began. He should have picked a venue and a date. "Trump, you need to be at the LA Coliseum Monday night at 6 p.m. And, you need to bring a check for half the cost of renting the venue and security. You have until tomorrow at noon to either commit to being there or you will be viewed as the coward that I think you really are." I

I don't know what Trump would do, but by seizing the initiative, Sanders would have become the dominant party rather than the submissive party. And, for Trump, that is what it is all about. People who want to beat Trump need to understand that about Trump.

Trump believes he got everything that he wanted.

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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 04:34 PM

5. There is no gain for trump to discuss anything with second place guy...if

 

They ain't talking about Hillary...even Bernie would put that off limits...

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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 04:49 PM

7. All hat...

No cowboy

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Response to world wide wally (Reply #7)

Fri May 27, 2016, 05:04 PM

9. And a teeny-tiny hat at that

I carry no brief for either Sanders or Clinton, but Trump is well-advised to stay as far away from one-on-one discussions as he can. When there's nobody on the stage to deflect to, and just one other person vying for air time, Trump will not do well. If he went head-to-head with Sanders, Sanders would carve him up. Both Sanders and Clinton do something that Trump's Republican adversaries don't do very well: They both listen and respond to what their opponent says.

When there's 10 Lilliputians on the stage (or even just three) battling for air time, Trump can dominate because everyone else wants to be sure he gets his talking points in, and they don't have the luxury of time to answer Trump's nonsense. It wouldn't surprise me if Trump refuses to participate in any post-convention debates, and as bad as that will be, it won't be worse than actually getting on stage one-on-one with the Democratic nominee.

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #9)

Fri May 27, 2016, 05:10 PM

11. and even tinier gloves

He can't debate one on one because he doesn't know anything about anything. All he can do is call names and try to brag about himself. Just try to categorize every word out of his mouth and it fits into one of those two categories…. Unless he is telling a lie, of course which makes it 3 categories.

Lets review:
1_ Name Calling
2_ Bragging
3_ Telling lies


That concludes today's lesson on Phony Donny

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Response to world wide wally (Reply #7)

Fri May 27, 2016, 05:26 PM

15. That ^^^

And that's exactly what Bernie should tell the press.

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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 05:06 PM

10. "He bravely ran away, away...Brave, brave Sir Trumpy"

He's afraid Bernie will wipe the floor with his ass if it comes down to a real debate on the issues. Coward!

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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 05:14 PM

12. The same reason Hillary will not bother to debate him.

There is no point in debating the loser. There is simply no upside.

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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 05:21 PM

13. Simple! He's chicken -- and Sanders is that Kentucky Fried guy!

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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 05:24 PM

14. He's a fucking wind bag

Nothing more or nothing less. Anyone who plans on voting for him is an idiot, in my opinion.

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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 10:05 PM

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