AT LEAST SEVEN KILLED IN OHIO MASS SHOOTING

[tabasco]

Seven people have been confirmed dead after a mass shooting at an Ohio home on Friday morning.

The incident occurred at a home in Peebles, Pike County, around 70 miles east of Cincinnati. The victims are all believed to be members of the same family, according to WCPO 9 Cincinnati, citing the Ohio Bureau of Criminal Investigation.

http://www.newsweek.com/ohio-mass-shooting-seven-killed-451348

[SamKnause]

1. Damn, that is only 9 miles from my home.

It is also the closest shooting to date.

Before today, the closest shooting was 14 miles from my home.

[tabasco]

3. I live far away from any urban area.

Population density is 9 per square mile in my county.

Last fall a young man shot and killed both of his grandparents. The grand-dad was a retired state trooper and was killed with his own gun.

No one is safe from the scourge of gun violence.

[SamKnause]

12. I live in a rural area outside of Seaman, Ohio.

I am surrounded by farm land.

There are only 3 houses on the road that I live on.

The road is 1 mile long.

Seaman is a tiny town 3 miles from my home.

Not one stop light.

Hitches at the local bank for the Amish.

Peebles is the next town east of me.

Peebles is a small country town.

Larger than Seaman, but still a very small town.

[dixiegrrrrl]

15. Except for the thing called winter there

your area sounds ideal to someone like me.

I live in a very small town, 40 mile drive to the nearest freeway entrance.
We have just had our first armed robbery.

[SamKnause]

16. I have lived in Ohio 52 out of my 62 years on this planet.

The climate in Ohio has changed drastically.

I planted my tomato seeds outside yesterday.

I could have planted them 1 week ago.

It is suggested that you do not plant tomato seeds or set

tomato plants until May 1st.

We had a short warm winter.

We had very little snow.

No ice storms or blizzards.

The end of this month and beginning of the next month will be

rainy and well above normal temperatures. High 70's Low 80's.

Typically it should be in the High 50's and still freezing at night.

There is nothing typical in the climate here anymore.

[dixiegrrrrl]

64. We should have dry sunny long autumn season

until tornado season in March, then hurricane season starts in June thru Nov.

We have been having rainy warmish autumns, and tornado season started in early Feb. last couple years.

ZERO hurricanes for the last 10 years, they have all gone into the Pacific.
Damn few tropical storms, even.
This year I let my geraniums stay over winter, they are doing fine. Usually we treat them as an annual.

[Quackers]

96. I used to go to North Adams growing up.

They've done bulldozed the school though.

[SamKnause]

97. They have a giant new one.

They have a new library next to the new high school.

They have a new hospital across the street from the new high school.

They have a new cancer treatment center across from the new high school.

Where was the high school that was bulldozed ???

[Quackers]

105. In the middle of town.

There was a brown brick elementary school next to the tan colored high school. They're both gone now. They moved everything down 32 now. Speaking of the cancer center, is it still open? I know that it was raided by some agency a while back. I think they said insurance fraud.

[cantbeserious]

2. The Strain Of Living In The Corrupt Nation Once Known As America Has Become Too Much For Some

eom

[Democat]

5. If only we could go back to the good old days

When children worked in factories, black people were property, and being gay was illegal.

[Octafish]

7. Were those the richest times in human history, too?

Because today the wealth people produce goes into the pockets of the already very wealthy few.

[LanternWaste]

10. I don't think the one necessarily follows the other.

I don't think the one necessarily follows the other.

[maxsolomon]

19. Familicides go back centuries in this nation.

This likely has more to do with fragile male egos and a ubiquitous gun culture than it does with "corruption".

[cantbeserious]

20. Your Opinion Only - Others See The World Much, Much Differently

eom

[maxsolomon]

23. Then others need to start seeing facts

and regard these killings as a treatable public health issue, instead of an existential crisis related to some nebulous concept of "corruption".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Familicide

America isn't even that corrupt compared to 90% of the planet.

eom

[cantbeserious]

28. Your Opinion Only - Others See The World Much, Much Differently

eom

[maxsolomon]

29. Your Opinion Only - Others See The World Much, Much Differently

eom, brave poster.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

53. You are absolutely correct, of course. Earlier today I saw an article about how

suicides are rising, and I think what first came to my mind was income inequality, but I think that is bullshit now that I think about it more.

I do wonder if having more god damn guns than people, might have something to do with it.

[Maru Kitteh]

21. End of the world fantasies and religion usually figure prominently as well. n/t

[maxsolomon]

25. I'd debate "usually"

but delusions sometimes play a role, yes. more often brought on by a crisis in an intimate relationship, exacerbated by alcohol or drugs.

[Maru Kitteh]

38. I'll agree. "Often" then, and you are correct, the cause is generally multifactorial

hence my use of "figures prominently into." The types who do this (wipe out the entire family) are generally male, depressed, have experienced a recent crisis and have convinced themselves that killing their family is the "right thing" to do. At least in the United States (and probably to some lesser extent in other Western cultures) they frequently rationalize their acts in part through beliefs focused on religious or some mix of religious/political ideology indicating an impending end of society.

[malaise]

112. Well I heard a hack on CNN speculating

that it was a Mexican drug cartel.

[maxsolomon]

114. yeah it looks like i was way off

it was a drug execution.

[rjsquirrel]

52. Oh yes I'm sure that's it

If public corruption drives you to killing your family, it's society's fault.

[cantbeserious]

62. Must Be Forgetting The Knock-On Effects - So Typical

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[Bad Dog]

4. This doesn't even feature on the BBC website.

I guess mass shootings in America are no longer considered news.

[B2G]

6. It JUST happened. nt

[Bad Dog]

8. You're right.

It's just appeared on the US and Canada page.

[ScreamingMeemie]

13. Heck, we had a flood and a murder-suicide involving a 2 and a 5 year old this week

... Wasn't as important as Donald Trump.

http://www.chron.com/neighborhood/fortbend/news/article/Couple-children-dead-in-apparent-murder-suicide-7257662.php

And yes, he was a gun enthusiast who thought that the news anchor murder last year was a fake.

[Bad Dog]

14. I hoestly don't think Americans are more violent than us.

The difference is guns. If I had a gun I would have shot a lot of people by now. And that's just today.

[linuxman]

26. I think that's the root of gun controlers' sentiments.

They assume we all are as apt to snap out in a fit of violence as they are. Not trying to poke at you, but your own admission sort of backs up what many have long suspected. Kudos for the honesty, though.

I've been carrying a gun for going on 10 years now. Been in quite a few tense arguments and situations during that time. Can't say it ever occured to me to take out my gun and blow someonevaway, though.granted, I'm just one person, and I'm sure there are people like you who are armed. Still, it certainly explains why some people don't trust others with guns. Projection is a hell of a thing.

Different strokes and all that is suppose.

[Bad Dog]

58. I don't think you understand the British sense of humour.

Because you certainly misread the tone of my post. You need to ask yourself why you need to be armed to venture out. I don't and I'm glad that our police aren't armed either.

[linuxman]

63. Oh no, I get it. Big fawlty towers fan. This is the internet and tone doesn't carry well, though.

I never wrote that I need to be armed to go out. I rarely am, at least when home on my own time. It sounds like you're misreading the content of my post. I never said that you were implying anything. Your post simply lines up with a sentiment gun controllers (something i neverbsaid you were) express frequently here in the states. I was just using your words (which may have been tongue in cheek, who knows?) to talk about something related. I even went as far to say it wasn't a poke at you. If you took it personally, I suppose that's on you.

[Bad Dog]

77. You clearly don't get it.

If Fawlty Towers is your chosen term of reference. The last episode was made in 1979, it's 2016, things have moved on. We don't have mass shootings over here because following Dunblane we think the lives of children are more important that some individual's need to own a gun.

This sort of thing happens on a regular basis in America, and it's people like you with your claims of "responsible" gun ownership who allow it to happen. It's not just mass shooting, it's family members being killed by accident or because they were mistaken for an intruder and a trigger happy police force who have good reason to treat every one they stop as a potential shooter. "Responsible" gun ownership hasn't stopped that, it's exacerbated it.

If you want to stop the thousands of gun deaths and injuries that occur in your country every year there's only one thing that works.

[linuxman]

111. It's called being facetious. I know you brits have a hard time with american humor, though.

How exactly am I allowing others to commit crimes? Bonus points for explaining it without hyperbole, lies, or hysterics.

For the record, your country's homicide rate has been relatively flat for a very long time, and gun control measures did little to influence it.


Also, check out this one.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DJ-KA2WhhLo/UNZr8agpVqI/AAAAAAAAFH4/f6rrTVN7q6I/s1600/Screen+Shot+2012-12-22+at++Saturday,+December+22,+9.26+PM.png

Yes, Dunblane was the last mass killing with a gun, but there wasn't exactly a ton of them beforehand either. It would be like me arguing that invading Iraq prevented another 9/11, as we haven't had another. You're comparing apples to oranges here. As you can see in the chart, the US has had a much higher homicide rate for quite a long time, and it varies independent of guns.

Personally, it isn't gun deaths in my country that bother me, but violent deaths in total. Most non-suicide death from violence are concentrated in a few small metropolitan areas with high crime and poverty. Even if you snapped your fingers and made all the guns go poof, there would still be massive amounts of homicides coming from those key areas. That won't be fixed by taking away a person's right to effective self defense, essentially putting the old, the infirm, and the weak in the position of having to resort to hand-to-hand combat to defend their lives. Oh well. Granny better start hitting the gym and the Krav-maga sessions.

Pass.

[Bad Dog]

113. You weren't being facetious.

Or ironic or tongue in cheek any of those things. We didn't have a lot of guns about before Dunblane, but the public outcry pretty much stopped incidents like that happening again. Your homicide rate is higher because of the amount of guns out there. You can post as many graphs and figures as you want but you can't change that.

[linuxman]

115. You're beyond reason.

Graphs are data made visual. If you can't handle the facts in front of your eyes, there's nothing anyone can say to you.

I wasn't being facetious? Damn, and I thought the Germans had a bad sense of humor.

The US has over 300 million guns (a VERY, VERY lowball estimate). 236 MILLION have been processed through the nics system in the last 16 years, with the vast majority being first time sales of new firearms. That's 4 guns for everyone on your little island. If more guns equaled more crime, there would be a spike in our homicides big enough to skydive off of.



Don't be scared. It's just a graph. It means nothing, afterall.

https://www.google.com.af/search?q=us+homicides&client=tablet-android-samsung&prmd=inv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwia_KfPma3MAhVF2xoKHUNtBi0Q_AUIBygB&biw=1280&bih=800#imgrc=3mefJPGZFPulIM%3A

[Bad Dog]

116. That's why you have so many shootings.

I'm sorry you don't think there's enough, but most would think it's too much. One reason. Ignore the truth if you want but don't expect anyone else to share your delusion.

[treestar]

118. They still are not armed?

I had heard they were now.

Good point below about American cops below. They have ore reason to think a suspect might blow them away

[Bad Dog]

121. They aren't routinely armed.

There are armed police, but they're specialists and are on call if needed, the ordinary bobby on the beat just has his truncheon, pepper spray and some have tazers.

[treestar]

123. That's good to hear

I think when debating gun nuts they will often resort to those specialist gun-armed police to dismiss the ones that aren't.

[Bad Dog]

124. This is it in a bit more detail.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_unit

[alarimer]

48. You are 100% right. It's the fucking guns.

I am so tired of the gun nuts excuses. Fuck them.

[REP]

49. There was one of these murders in my family a few generations back

The victims were beaten to death with a doubletree, not shot despite there being plenty of guns on the farm. The location was a small rural town. These family annihilations are not new, and don't need guns. This isn't a yay-or-nay guns statement; it speaks to the dynamics of isolation and a peculiar mindset that makes murder a viable solution.

[Bad Dog]

59. It's easier with guns though.

Bludgeoning and stabbing is a lot messier and physical. It's a lot harder than pulling a trigger.

[1939]

67. Like

Lizzie Borden with an axe
Hit her mother forty whacks
When she found what she had done
She hit her father forty-one

[Bad Dog]

78. I never said it doesn't happen.

People do get murdered over here too, just a tiny fraction of the amount that die in America because no everyone has the stomach to take an axe to people like Lizzie Borden.

Why do you think there's such a huge difference in our countries homicide rates? We have axes, knives, cars and all manner of stuff, we don't have guns. It's not bloody rocket science.

Btw, kudos for spelling axe correctly, there might be some hope after all.

[REP]

83. I did mention that there were many, many guns on the property?

He still beat them to death with a doubletree.

As I said, this isn't yay! or nay! guns. It's about why this keeps happening, especially in rural areas.

[Bad Dog]

87. It keeps happening in America.

It doesn't keep happening over here.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

54. ...

I know, I shouldn't laugh, but funny is funny

[Bad Dog]

79. Thank you.

At least someone got the joke. I was starting to worry you were all like linuxman.

[B2G]

9. Very rural area

Peebles has a population < 2000.

[malaise]

11. I thought this was going to be a college shooting

It's been a while

[thereismore]

17. Is this a bad time to say that the gun manufacturer's product worked as advertised?

Forgive the old cynic.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

56. Yep, they are designed to kill human beings, no question about it.

[maxsolomon]

18. This will go on for decades.

Each shooting just reinforces the belief that guns will protect you from the next shooting.

It's going to take generations for this madness to relent.

[Visionary]

22. Not really a mass shooting

More of a domestic incident than a mass shooting IMO. Still tragic though.

[maxsolomon]

24. Body count determines that

>3 shot, mass shooting.

[jberryhill]

27. The underlying emotive theme, however...

"This was among a bunch of people who knew one another and/or were related, so the dynamics of this incident don't affect me"

[Quantess]

85. Also, if you want to get really cynical,

Wow, a family that is a lot more f'd up than mine!

[jberryhill]

86. Has it been determined who is the perpetrator?

[stone space]

80. Of course it is a mass shooting.

Let's not blind ourselves to reality, here.

[Vinca]

30. I've had MSNBC on in the background for the last 1 1/2 hours and haven't heard a peep.

Not enough bodies?

[Brickbat]

31. Rural area and not an active shooter situation, although they still don't know if they should be

looking for someone. If there are more killings, you can expect it to ramp right up.

[Vinca]

32. It's amazing how your average, everyday slaughter has become "ho hum."

[ScreamingMeemie]

33. As I mentioned upthread, we had a murder-suicide that involved a 2- and 5-year-old

that barely made our local news, much less national. The guy was a conservative conspiracy theorist, which also probably wiped it off the coverage map.

[Vinca]

34. It makes you ashamed to be an American.

[Brickbat]

35. I wouldn't say that at all.

[Vinca]

36. Really? With that many people involved?

[Brickbat]

37. What are you looking for to show it's not ho-hum?

[Vinca]

39. That would be nice.

I think it's very sad when one celebrity death gets wall-to-wall coverage, but multiple firearm deaths are nothingburgers. I guess we've all become complacent. Maybe if the next mass shooting is in a hospital nursery they'll cover it.

[Brickbat]

40. So you're looking for wall-to-wall coverage?

[Vinca]

43. No. A mere mention would be something.

What's your problem anyway? Should we be hiding gun violence away from public view?

[Brickbat]

47. Your first comment struck me, especially because so many people bemoan the "gholish" and

"invasive" wall-to-wall coverage that happens with large shootings, as well as the worry that the coverage might give other people ideas. There were "mere mentions," because people knew it was happening.

I'm sure my questions felt like badgering. I do tend to push, and my apologies for making you feel attacked.

[Eleanors38]

42. MSM is the essential link in gun-control visibility; been there for years...

...so, it might be relevant to speculate on why MSM chooses not to exercise its agitprop role. Perhaps because:

A). Ratings might be less when compared with the Election Narrative;

B). The "mass murder" definition has branched out to the all-new "mass shootings" and "active shooters" categories. To put it bluntly, there is a definitionally-based muddle whereby MSM has (inadvertently?) taken the shock value out of one of its chief go-to issues;

C). It didn't happen in a school or mall, so there isn't much fear factor;

D). I don't know the racial angle, but whites doing this usually get broad coverage;

E). It appears that CelebroPunk® styles of slaughter may be shifting toward a drive-by/Uber amalgam, and MSM hasn't had time to digest this into its gun-control narrative;

F). MSM may finally realize that more coverage of these incidents -- always with attendant anti-gun commentary -- may only fuel gun sales and hone the effectiveness of pro-2A organizations.

People need to ask themselves Why they want massive MSM coverage of this sad tragedy (not that there shouldn't be any), and what good will come of it. In the end, MSM has always been the stalwart gun-control institution.

[stone space]

81. Yes, with guns so available, there is a danger of supporters of such massacres buying more guns.

F). MSM may finally realize that more coverage of these incidents -- always with attendant anti-gun commentary -- may only fuel gun sales and hone the effectiveness of pro-2A organizations.

For some, these incidents provide a model for their own behavior, and they feel compelled to buy more guns upon hearing the news to fuel their addictions.

[Eleanors38]

92. Keep it simple, stone. Some gun-owners are just showing a middle finger to the controllers.

[Blue_Tires]

94. Help me out here

When was the last significant gun control law actually passed?

[Eleanors38]

101. Are you asking me or stone?

[Blue_Tires]

95. What the hell is a CelebroPunk?

And why does the dreaded 'MSM coverage' seem to upset you more than the actual victims??

If you believe TV should tone down it's universal anti-gun viewpoint (and I'm not sure how universal it really is, given the number of right-wingers and NRA hacks who get airtime, to say nothing of Fox News), shouldn't the flipside apply to talk radio, which is universally pro-gun?

[Eleanors38]

98. Answer 1: A murderous sort who wants (and gets) huge attention and a place in history...

...as a result of his/her atrocities.

Answer 2: You used the expression "dreaded," not me. Coverage doesn't really upset me. Otherwise, your question is couched in the usual smarmy, personal insult that wafts through here, and is irrelevant.

Answer 3: your attributions (again) as to "should ton(ing) down." My post was concerned with the possibility of MSM reducing coverage and why. I believe it is constructive speculation.

Instead of the usual heifer dust responses, you may wish to speculate on whether or not I am correct about any change in MSM coverage, esp. the Demonstrated reality of gun purchase upticks when MSM starts another campaign (rather counter-productive, no?), and the dilution-by-over-categorization that has crept into gun discussions over the last few years. Note: the question of news coverage (or lack thereof) was broached in this thread by controller/banners.

Frankly at this point, I don't give a FF about radio/T.V./daily news coverage since these declining institutions have given the "gun issue" their best shot for over 2 generations in a losing culture war.

Extra credit: What are you doing materially and actively to support your cause?

[Blue_Tires]

109. Bro, you don't even know what my "cause" is

because if you did, you wouldn't have asked...

As for the rest, let me just say I'm well versed in the role of media shaping public opinion (for good and for bad)... I simply vehemently disagree with your one-dimensional assertion.

I don't want to grab your goddamned rifles and sidearms, so quit pissing... I'd love nothing more than to have my own arsenal. But since there are many people in this world who I believe deserve death, I'll never be able to trust myself not to use them to that end.. So let's just leave it at that.

[Eleanors38]

110. I will leave things as they are, and please remember all of us are due respect.nt

[Blue_Tires]

117. +1

Sorry I snapped... Bad day yesterday

[Eleanors38]

120. Understood. No problem.

[Eleanors38]

44. Consider seriously the recent proliferation of new shooting categories...

Mass murder. Mass murder redefined. Mass shooting. Active shooter. Perhaps others. While this has the effect of pumping up the death toll/frequency of shootings, in reality homicide rates are the lowest in over 20 years. The effect of more Categories, however, tends to make incidents "ho-hum."

There is good indication these categories were promoted to bring attention to "GunViolence," so perhaps gun-control advocates may be experiencing a petard self-hoisting.

[malaise]

41. You expect Trump central to stop Primary coverage

Prince should consider himself lucky.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

57. I will say I am thankful for the coverage he is getting. Prince, that is.

Given Donald Trump could multiply himself 2000 times and still combined not have the talent equal to that which Prince had in one finger, I am grateful he is being ignored slightly.

[malaise]

60. Same here

and I'm sure glad it's knocked the Primaries off for a bit. But we both know that it won't last.

[struggle4progress]

45. 8th body found in 'execution-style' shootings

Sara Nealeigh and Doug Stanglin, USA TODAY
3:13 p.m. EDT April 22, 2016

... Seven of the victims were believed to be from the same family and were found at three houses ... A Pike County victim's advocate said a five-day-old child and six-month-old child were found alive in one of the homes ...

Officials said the eighth body was found at a fourth location. The connection between the shooting sprees and the eighth victim was not immediately clear ...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/04/22/report-least-7-dead-home-east-cincinnati/83380280/

[struggle4progress]

46. ... Ohio Attorney Mike DeWine ... said he will update the media at 4 p.m. Friday ...

8th body found in Pike Co. family massacre, attorney general says
Perpetrator "may still be on the loose"
WCPO Staff
9:39 AM, Apr 22, 2016
6 mins ago
http://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/adams-county/multiple-fatalities-confirmed-at-pike-county-home

[struggle4progress]

50. Attorney general: 8 dead, including a child, in Pike County family massacre

Shooter 'may still be on the loose'
WCPO Staff
9:39 AM, Apr 22, 2016
3 mins ago

... According to Pike County Sheriff Charles Reader, at least eight members of the Rhoden family, including a 16-year-old boy, were found dead from gunshot wounds to the head at multiple locations along Union Hill and Left Fork roads just northeast of Peebles early Friday morning ...

Reader said three other juveniles were also recovered alive from the crime scenes, a 4-day-old, a 6-month-old and a 3-year-old ...

http://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/adams-county/multiple-fatalities-confirmed-at-pike-county-home

[struggle4progress]

51. Gunman at large after “execution-style” family killings

Friday, April 22nd 2016, 9:46 am EDT
Friday, April 22nd 2016, 4:59 pm EDT
Posted by FOX19 Digital Media Staff

PIKE COUNTY, OH (FOX19) - The gunman who shot eight family members Friday morning is believed to be armed and extremely dangerous, according to Pike County Sheriff Charles Reader.

The seven adult victims and one underage male were shot in the head “execution-style,” said Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine.

Investigators have not determined whether the individual acted alone in shooting eight members of the Rhodan family, some of whom were asleep in bed, DeWine said. Three children survived – a four-day-old, 6-month-old and 3-year-old.

At a press conference Friday afternoon, DeWine and Reader urged the public to come forward with tips about the crime and gunman. Anyone with information is asked to call 1-800-BCI-OHIO ...

http://www.wect.com/story/31791838/multiple-fatalities-reported-in-pike-county

[guillaumeb]

55. Hurrah for the Second Amendment!!!!!!!

Another victory for the gun crowd. More guns in more places is clearly the answer.

[friendly_iconoclast]

61. Hurrah for the First Amendment!!!!!!!

Another excuse to exploit tragedy for the anti-gun crowd.

[tabasco]

65. Yeah, we should just ignore mass shootings and

not wonder why the USA has so much gun crime.

Heaven forbid anyone think it's because of

[font size=6]ALL THE FUCKING GUNS![/font]

[malaise]

66. Slaughter by gun

Please!

[guillaumeb]

108. The tragedy is that the SCOTUS, like much of Congress,

is bought and controlled by the weapons manufacturers. And the corporate media constantly chooses the news to reflect the supposed danger in leaving the house without a weapon. Add in millions of terrified citizens who channel their inner Rambo and the conditions are perfect for an endless series of gun tragedies.

[GreydeeThos]

89. More like organized crime

This is a product of workplace violence from underground criminal operations.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141427131

What kind of gun laws would you suggest that would be effective in preventing criminal enterprises, which already have no respect for the law, from obtaining guns?

[friendly_iconoclast]

91. Xpost from LBN: "Marijuana 'grow operations' found at Ohio slaying sites"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141427131

Source: cnn

(CNN)Investigators found three marijuana "grow operations" at rural residences where eight family members were slain in southern Ohio, state Attorney General Mike DeWine said Sunday at a news conference.

Authorities wouldn't say publicly whether they thought the killings were drug related, but an official with knowledge of the operation told CNN's Nick Valencia: "This operation was not for personal use; it was for something much bigger than that. It was a very sophisticated operation." ...

..."This was a preplanned execution of eight individuals," DeWine said. "It was a sophisticated operation and those who carried it out were trying to do everything they could do to hinder the investigation and their prosecution."

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/24/us/marijuana-grow-operation-found-at-ohio-slaying-sites/

Of course, now that that news is out all the anti-gun animists blaming this on the mere
availability of guns will bail on the thread...

[GreydeeThos]

93. The Ghouls find this kind of blood slippery to dance in

Please don't think I am disrespecting the dead or the victims of this crime.

[ScreamingMeemie]

69. One, that is speculating. Two, that person looks to be about 16-ish in his pictures from the fall.

I'm guessing he might be the one child victim. Either or, that's horrible to state he's the "Killer" when we have no idea.

[SoCalMusicLover]

71. Teenage Son Is Missing

A teenage son of one of the victims is unaccounted for.

[ScreamingMeemie]

72. See my post below. The "killer" you've chosen is dead.

[SoCalMusicLover]

73. OK, I Agree

They are saying that a teenage son of 2 of the victims is at large, so I assumed wrong.

Aren't the cops being a little nonchalant about the whole thing? An 8 time killer is on the loose, and they are just telling folks, keep your doors locked.

[ScreamingMeemie]

74. Totally agreed. They are saying they believe other family members might

be in danger and they've given them precautionary measures to take... ummmm, put them in protective custody! Honestly, I have no idea why they haven't.

[cwydro]

84. Curious as to what was on his FB page

that caused you to assume he was the killer?

Talk about judging a book by its cover. Smh.

[ScreamingMeemie]

70. Also, just so you know, he's dead. One of the victims.

http://heavy.com/news/2016/04/chris-dana-frankie-rhoden-family-photos-pictures-pike-county-killing-suspect/6/

[pressbox69]

75. Just another day

in NRAmerica.

[AxionExcel]

76. .

[stone space]

82. asdf

[ScreamingMeemie]

88. "Family targeted... Marijuana found in 3 locations... in what looks like a grow operation"

There was just a news conference. They are being super tight-lipped about this. Good for them.

[malaise]

90. Oh My!

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/24/us/marijuana-grow-operation-found-at-ohio-slaying-sites/
<snip>
Investigators found three marijuana "grow operations" at rural residences where eight family members were slain in southern Ohio, state Attorney General Mike DeWine said Sunday at a news conference.
Authorities wouldn't say publicly whether they thought the killings were drug related, but an official with knowledge of the operation told CNN's Nick Valencia: "This operation was not for personal use; it was for something much bigger than that. It was a very sophisticated operation."
The cold-blooded nature of the killings has rattled Piketon, a town of about 2,000 people 90 miles east of Cincinnati.
The victims, aged 16 to 44, were methodically shot in the head while sleeping at four residences, including a mother with a 4-day-old infant lying beside her, authorities said. The newborn, along with a 6-month-old and a 3-year-old, survived. The official said the killings happened before dawn.
"This was a preplanned execution of eight individuals," DeWine said. "It was a sophisticated operation and those who carried it out were trying to do everything they could do to hinder the investigation and their prosecution."

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[cwydro]

99. I don't think they have a clue.

And I'm kinda suspicious of this whole Mexican drug cartel stuff they're hinting at.

I mean, come on. Major Mexican drug barons find this farm family on 40 acres??? (somehow they find them) and get them to grow weed for the cartel?? Riiigghht. Not buying it.

I do think the murders are drug related, but I'm thinking home-grown asshats - with the drug being meth.

[Kaleva]

100. The people who planned and carried out the hits are pro's

I think it beyond the capability of some local ass hats.

[cwydro]

102. I just find it odd.

The police have been known to get it wrong.

[ScreamingMeemie]

106. I found it odd too, and then I did some research...

http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2012/08/17/mexican-drug-cartels-are-running-weed-farms-in-ohio

I don't think they will ever find the perps. I hope I'm wrong. A camp was found in Pike County in 2012.

[cwydro]

107. Whoa. Yeah, that's news to me.

That is so diabolical that it's chilling.

And the killing of the mother who was holding her baby...yikes, that does seem sociopathic to the nth degree.

[raccoon]

119. Thanks for the link. nt

[doc03]

103. Heisenberg did it n/t

[doc03]

104. Pike county is a poor rural county with only 30000 population

I guarantee the local Sheriff knew all about the marijuana growing operation. Probably knows who did the
shooting too.

[treestar]

122. Still have not caught anyone or identified any suspect apparently

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=ohio+mass+shooting+2016