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The Denver police department is now enforcing a new ordinance that makes it illegal to sleep on public property. If you are caught sleeping on a sidewalk or on any public property in Denver you will be arrested. The penalty for such a violation is $1000 fine and a year in jail. At least you will get some clothes and some food though it may be porridge. Many of the homeless are veterans who fought for nothing.
I am a veteran and I feel like I wasted my time. I feel like our veterans have died for nothing. That is because our country has become a hateful bigoted and mean spirited place.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)KT2000
(20,577 posts)today I realized that the conservatives are never satisfied until they have exacted degradation and humiliation of those they consider less than themselves. Mean spirited is right.
Speck Tater
(10,618 posts)It wouldn't surprise me if some street people wouldn't prefer a warm cell and a hot meal to a frozen cardboard box and cold dumpster french fries. If I was cold and homeless in Denver, personally, I'd probably prefer rooms and board in a jail.
GoCubsGo
(32,080 posts)It will cost them a small fortune to house them, not to mention tying up the courts with their cases, which will also cost a ton of money.
Speck Tater
(10,618 posts)It wouldn't surprise me if some street people wouldn't prefer a warm cell and a hot meal to a frozen cardboard box and cold dumpster french fries. If I was cold and homeless in Denver, personally, I'd probably prefer rooms and board in a jail.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)Speck Tater
(10,618 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)if the homeless had that much cash on them they wouldn't be homeless.
Burke36
(21 posts)[IMG][/IMG]many thanks
Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)constitutional muster, to be constantly prone to abuse by the police and prosecutors.
Specifically, if you are taking a lunch break on city property and napping during your lunch break, will you be arrested for violating said ordinance? I highly doubt it.
I thought the US Supreme Court had thrown out vagrancy ordinances many years ago.
xmas74
(29,674 posts)I live in a smaller town in Missouri and we have one. Technically, you must have enough money in your pocket for a motel room for one night or you can be arrested for vagrancy. Does it happen? Rarely, though I have heard that a few homeless persons in the area are actually approaching officers and informing them that they are violating vagrancy laws-especially on nights of extreme weather.
DLevine
(1,788 posts)raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)Investors can count on increased profits from many sectors with the ever higher victimization of the least among us. It's that individual push for money above any convictions that helps them flourish so grandly.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Just how does a homeless person come by that kinda cash, to pay this fine?
And a year in jail? What is the cost to taxpayers?
Simply brilliant!
Very empathetic of Denver.
jp11
(2,104 posts)magical thyme
(14,881 posts)I can only imagine the slave labor they will extract.
At least it gives them room and board for a year. If only they could wrap their stupid heads around what they are doing...
stlsaxman
(9,236 posts)gotta put the homeless somewhere- might as well be prison.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I wonder, after their prison term is up, do they then throw them in debtor's prison for not being able to cough up the original fine?
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)That'll BANKRUPT the entire state's prison-industrial complex overnight. To say nothing of Denver itself.
I don't get why people don't see and take advantage of these OBVIOUS easy exploits.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)But that's the way us anti-war types think. It isn't the soldiers who start these wars or who end them, but they do pay a very high price whether they get killed in wars or not.
Mairead
(9,557 posts)are no other options is virtually political speech, and thus protected.
It doesn't make the lawmakers any less odious, of course.
DearAbby
(12,461 posts)firehorse
(755 posts)When was the last time sleeping was a crime? Why is being homeless a crime?
Turning homeless into criminals is the first step before turning them indentured slave laborers.
SalviaBlue
(2,916 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)especially after reading this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002770630
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)Where's the "gallows humor" smiley?
Woody Woodpecker
(562 posts)Sorry - but homeless have to have a place to stay.
Civic Center Park is going through renovation, but there's a park across the street near the Capitol and it's best to send a very loud message to the idiots in the Capitol.
OneTenthofOnePercent
(6,268 posts)On a more serious note, most veterans of foreign wars fought/fight to make OTHER countries a better place - not necessarily our own country. Unless you are referring to US veterans of civil or revolutionary wars... in which case, not many are around to really have an oinion on America in 2012.
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)What kind of stupid-ass fuckwad moron thought this was a good idea..??
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)measures that effectively guarantee the poor are criminalized & can never return to "normal" society.
Taitertots
(7,745 posts)The country is in the shitter, but there are still millions of us holding out for a better world. You only fought for nothing if we all give up and submit to the hateful and bigoted.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)And do not think for a minute it would be otherwise if push came to shove.
BlueIris
(29,135 posts)FangLee
(1 post)It's an absurd to criminalize the homeless! They are feeling bad because their guilty is upon them. They're trying to cover the misery and relieve their consciousness by dragging the poor out of the streets. This way, they won't see the poverty or feel bad about the fact they have what the poor don't have but are too selfish to help them!!!