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rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:27 AM Mar 2016

Queens Man Is Arrested After Grandson Brings a Loaded Pistol to School (NYT)

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A 54-year-old Queens man was arrested after his grandson brought his loaded handgun to school in his backpack, the police said on Wednesday.

On Tuesday, police officers were called shortly after 1 p.m. to Public School 40, an elementary school on Union Hall Street in the Jamaica neighborhood, after faculty members discovered the gun and called 911, the authorities said.

The student, an 11-year-old boy in fifth grade, had a loaded Hi-Point 9-millimeter pistol in his backpack, the authorities said.


http://nytimes.com/2016/03/17/nyregion/queens-man-is-arrested-after-his-grandson-brings-a-loaded-pistol-to-school.html

#gunfail #armthechildren #lolgunskeepussafe

As I frequently say on DU, I believe parents (or grandparents) whose kids gain unsupervised access to their guns even once need to lose their kids or their visitation/access to their kids. And their guns and gun "rights" for life. Luckily, this being NYC, this grandad likely faces jail time for owning the illegal gun in the first place, but this is exactly how Sandy Hook and Columbine were facilitated by parents, out of ignorance or malice or stupidity or all three doesn't matter. Your gun threatens MY kids if you let children get near it.

A reminder because it's true: last year toddlers "accidentally" killed more Americans than "terrorists" but then, I say the gun nutter parents of these homicidal children *are* terrorists.
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Queens Man Is Arrested After Grandson Brings a Loaded Pistol to School (NYT) (Original Post) rjsquirrel Mar 2016 OP
Good. No leniency for parents. I'd like to see parents sanctioned for introducing young kids into Hoyt Mar 2016 #1
So. according to you, GGJohn Mar 2016 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author TheSarcastinator Mar 2016 #4
Kids can be removed from a home because of concern for safety and welfare of the child. Hoyt Mar 2016 #5
so children in rural areas should just starve to death alp227 Mar 2016 #6
A gun owner should know their guns' whereabouts at all times Orrex Mar 2016 #3
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. Good. No leniency for parents. I'd like to see parents sanctioned for introducing young kids into
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:35 AM
Mar 2016

gun culture too.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
2. So. according to you,
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:17 AM
Mar 2016

parents wouldn't be allowed to teach their kids to shoot?
That's pure nuts, govt, has no business telling parents that there kids can't learn about firearms.

Response to GGJohn (Reply #2)

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
5. Kids can be removed from a home because of concern for safety and welfare of the child.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 11:17 AM
Mar 2016

As far as I'm concerned, teaching a kid how to kill with a gun is tantamount to bringing them up in in a racist home, Branch Davidian compound, a militia, among abusive drug addicts and abusive parents, etc. And it darn sure isn't good for society either. Gun fanciers are blind to effects of their bad habit.

alp227

(32,020 posts)
6. so children in rural areas should just starve to death
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 11:42 AM
Mar 2016

Instead of learning to hunt for food?

Orrex

(63,208 posts)
3. A gun owner should know their guns' whereabouts at all times
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:28 AM
Mar 2016

A gun owner is responsible for his or her guns whether or not they are holding the guns at any particular moment. The owner bears at least partial responsibility for any misuse of their guns.

A comprehensive and publicly accessible national registry would be a good first step.

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