Poll: Nearly Half of Trump’s Supporters Want Slavery Back, and That’s Not All

[n2doc]

What does it say about a party when half of the people supporting one of its most popular presidential candidates wishes we still had slavery in this country? I’m pretty sure it means that what we’ve said for years now about them — that they brazenly and openly court racists — is totally accurate. They’d of course deny that it means anything about the party at large, but this party also so happens to be the one that still thinks there were WMD in Iraq and that Supply Side Economics work, so let’s not go building any bridges with their intellect, shall we?

By now, I’m pretty sure that most have seen the recent poll conducted of Trump supporters in the Palmetto State that showed 38% of those who responded wished the Confederacy had won the Civil War, and that 70% wished the Confederate battle flag still flew over the South Carolina capitol, but just in case, here’s a snippet of it from Public Policy Polling’s press release.

-70% think the Confederate flag should still be flying over the State Capital, to only 20% who agree with it being taken down. In fact 38% of Trump voters say they wish the South had won the Civil War to only 24% glad the North won and 38% who aren’t sure. Overall just 36% of Republican primary voters in the state are glad the North emerged victorious to 30% for the South, but Trump’s the only one whose supporters actually wish the South had won. (source)

Here’s the thing though — as scary as it is to read the responses to that question, it’s just the tip of the racist and xenophobic iceberg in that poll. The responses are galling but they prove beyond a shadow of a doubt how many Republicans truly are racist to the core. Well, they could just be plain stupid if they don’t realize wishing the Confederacy had won means that slavery would’ve been kept alive, but either we call them racist or stupid, and neither one reflects well on the GOP.

What else is in the poll? Well, try this one on for size:

-By an 80/9 spread, Trump voters support his proposed ban on Muslims entering the United States. In fact 31% would support a ban on homosexuals entering the United States as well, something no more than 17% of anyone else’s voters think is a good idea. (source)

Yup, that’s right, 80% of South Carolina Trump supporters are totally cool with banning Muslims entering the country. Unfortunately there wasn’t a follow-up on whether they’d want the Muslims currently in the country branded with special patches and tattoos, but hopefully PPP covers that some time. Then there’s the fact that 31% of them also would be just fine with banning homosexuals from entering the country is a great idea too. Fascism in America is alive and well, clearly.

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[Rex]

1. This happened, because for decades now the GOP has been allowed to lie cheat and steal their asses

off. So now they have a hyper-delusional following out there that thinks Duck Dynasty is a good family show, because it teaches manners. They are living in dangerously delusional waters, most probably bought part of the Blue Tarp.

And Dump is going to keep them wrapped around his little finger, he realized how simple they are in their herd mentality. Probably already knew this, but doubted it until he actually saw it with his own eyeballs.

[valerief]

2. I swear, these people have cantaloupes for brains. nt

[KamaAina]

11. Hey there! I happen to like cantaloupes!

[valerief]

17. I do, too, but to eat, not to let vote and breed. nt

[randys1]

3. Very dangerous times. A group of folks who are very angry and not in possession of a single

truth.

The election of the Black guy sent them all off the edge.

[dragonlady]

6. Yesterday I heard the editor of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel on the radio

He was speaking about the paper's new policy to let people add comments to online articles only if they are subscribers and thus can be identified if their writing is too filthy. (So far it has really cleaned up the comments.) He mentioned a study that the paper commissioned a few years ago. It said that 10% of their readers were extremely angry about all institutions (government, churches, the press, etc.). Just a data point in support of what you wrote.

[randys1]

7. Ignorant and misinformed anger is the most dangerous kind.

[hifiguy]

15. "There is nothing more frightful

than ignorance in action." Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

[davidn3600]

4. South Carolina has always been the heart of the southern rebellion

Many schools in the south still call the civil war a "war of northern aggression." They view it as a war that was for state rights against an over-controlling federal government. They don't necessarily even consider the slavery side of it. They will tell you slavery had nothing to do with the war.

As for Muslims...
Anti-muslim sentiment will be especially high right now because of the issues in Europe. The Cologne incident really moved the needle in terms of public opinions.

[malaise]

5. But but but Joe Scum and Mika are making tons of

money for the corporate read fascist media. It's so fun - being outrageous to the world - fucking ugliest American ever.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

8. Nonsense.

Wishing that the South had won the civil war is reprehensible, but it's a simple fact that the overwhelming majority of people who do so do not want slavery back. By all means argue that by doing so they are being logically inconsistent, but to claim that they do is a simple error of fact.

[hfojvt]

9. the other (dishonesty? honest mistake?) part

is where they conflate Trump supporters - in South Carolina - with ALL Trump supporters.

I don't know that I would say that a "wish" is itself reprehensible. I am not a huge fan of creating Thought Crimes.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

10. Thought sins, not thought crimes.

I quite agree that people should never be punished solely for their opinions.

But that doesn't mean that an opinion can't be morally wrong. The opinion that slavery should be brought back clearly is, and I would argue that the opinion that it would be better if the South had won the civil war is too, unless the holder is so massively misinformed about the likely consequences of that that they're making an honest mistake (which will be very rare).

[hfojvt]

14. I would think that morally wrong is one thing

whereas reprehensible is another.

Although my dictionary only defines reprehensible as "deserving censure". Unabridged says "deserving of reproof, rebuke, or censure."

Hmm, perhaps that word is not as strong as I think (or thought) it was.

I was thinking it equated to - one of the worst people in the world. Or one of the worst things to do in the world.

Whereas I would say that just thinking anything is not, by itself, as harmful as doing something. I mean is any thought, even thinking "slavery was not that bad for the slaves" as bad as stealing a bottle of water? And stealing a mere bottle of water is a really minor crime in the big scheme of things.

One could argue that certain evil beliefs are the foundations of evil actions, and I would not disagree, but am not sure of a direct connection in this case. A case I am thinking of is where a rough looking guy wanted me to sell him a book. The plot of the book is - a woman is kidnapped and then trained/conditioned to be a slave. Well, I was not going to sell this guy something that would seemingly encourage this person to actually DO that to the women in his life. Nope, no sir. The whole purpose of my store was to sell good books that would, in some small way, make the world a better place. Granted there was a certain amount of fuzziness, because I sold (or offered for sale) some books that I would call "mostly harmless crap" - things like Danielle Steele and the average harlequin, for examples, but that was way over the line.

Also, strangely enough, I would also say that often the censure is worse than the original crime. That is, when somebody says "slavery was not so bad for the slaves" which is a morally wrong thought, they are often bombarded by people saying hateful, hurtful things to them, or about them - which is more like an action.

[KamaAina]

12. If the South had won, it would still have had slavery

Perhaps it would eventually have abolished it, but I'll leave that to an alternative history writer like Harry Turtledove.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

13. Absolutely true, but not a rebuttal to my claim. N.T.

[Hortensis]

21. Probably not. Most of the world moved away from

it for various reasons. Certainly, the plantation system was very inefficient and would have died off before too long. Those owners prided themselves on being too refined for industry, so wouldn't have changed. It would have required a new set of entrepreneurs to develop slave factories, which would have been very dysfunctional, and who would bought their goods anyway? Etc, etc.

I also doubt all those people would choose to have slavery back for real.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

16. "Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the

"Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule." - Friedrich Nietzsche

[alcibiades_mystery]

18. Good God, this thread

Is there anything that *won't* be defended on DU now?

Jay-sus.

[Macattack1]

19. complete nonsense

please...that's complete nonsense..it diminishes all your other points, by drawing an insane conclusion. There are maybe 5% of the people left who want slavery back...they are insane, whoever they are, and don't represent any party...sheesh...childish if you ask me.

[True Earthling]

20. Slavery - there were no questions about slavery in the poll..

Thread title is very misleading.