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People who oppose vaccines, GMOs and climate change evidence may be more anxious than antagonistichttp://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-there-really-a-war-on-science/
"For several years now the popular media has run headlines about a war on science. Reporters note that federal funding for research is down, campaigns to undermine climate science attract hundreds of millions of dollars and politicians routinely reject findings that are uniformly accepted by scientists. But a panel of scholars last weekend argued for the most part against calling these aversive movements a war, with two historians even scolding scientists who embrace the idea as out of touch with public concerns.
Certainly, opponents of genetically modified crops, vaccinations that are required for children and climate science have become louder and more organized in recent times. But opponents typically live in separate camps and protest single issues, not science as a whole, said science historian and philosopher Roberta Millstein of the University of California, Davis. She spoke at a standing-room only panel session at the American Association for the Advancement of Sciences annual meeting, held in Washington, D.C. All the speakers advocated for a scientifically informed citizenry and public policy, and most discouraged broadly applied battle-themed rhetoric.
Millstein was the pacifist. There is no war on science, is what Im claiming. Or maybe there is a war on science, she said, but calling it such is counterproductive.
Co-panelist Mark Largent of Michigan State University, a science historian who has interviewed many parents who refuse to fully vaccinate their children, took the argument further. Scientists should shift away from an embattled position, he said, and acknowledge that they have tremendous power over various social arenas. Scientists today are an intensely privileged group of people, Largent said. You are revered. You have more cultural and social authority than any other group, other than very wealthy people. A defensive stance misrepresents sciences influence and can alienate people already mistrustful of vaccines or other socially relevant findings, he argued.
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A fair enough article that downplays possible damage done by the anxiety that leads to science denialism, nevermind that it ignores some of the causes, such as outlandish, fear-based marketing and media personalities. Nonethless, a worthy read.
cloudbase
(5,525 posts)but a massive aid program to promote ignorance, often encouraged by people who should know better. The internet being what it is, a person can find "information" to back up any personally held perception, regardless of its validity.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)Knowledge of how science works, what things like cherry picking are about, what consensus is, etc... is something many folks don't have a full enough understanding...
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)For what is going on from the corporate perspective (basically anytime science shows something that will cut into profits - the merchants are out in full force).
A legitimate question regarding vaccines came up, and sufficient studies have shown no link to autism. This should not be seen as demonstrating that all vaccines are safe. As is any drug which is manufactured there can be issues which come up.
I think GMOs should be labelled just like country of origin for all food products should be labelled. Consumers have a right to this information.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)Singling out the one that is the most predictable, most studied seems strange, no? BTW, what does knowing the seed development technology tell you about your food?
http://farmwars.info/?p=12501
Cleita
(75,480 posts)California which even in summer time was always on the cooler side due to being near the ocean. Fer chrissakes, even here in the middle of February, it's still supposed to be winter. Anybody who denies climate change is an idiot.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)Ugh.
2naSalit
(86,775 posts)Yellowstone country, been in the high thirties to mid forties last several days and kind of raining while trying to snow right now. Should be about -5F in a normal winter. This is the seventh out of eleven winters I've been here all season that we've seen this.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)Just because the East is inundated with snow, doesn't mean the lack of it out West isn't just as big an issue.
2naSalit
(86,775 posts)than almost anywhere for about six months. That being said, we are having a better snow year than the last two but it still is below the norm, and temps too. It won't get much coverage since this is where people are lied to about having snow and bad weather so they will come here and spend their $$ whether they want to play in the woods on their snowmobiles or go into the parks.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)And fast. It was warm and raining up at 10,000 feet this weekend.
Last year was an unprecedented low for snow in the Cascades. That meant that we went backpacking to lakes in June, with almost no mosquito action. These are lakes you can't normally hit until August, unless you're willing to be bit all the live long day.
Massive changes.
NutmegYankee
(16,201 posts)I'm going from this:
To 55 Degrees in just 2 days!
Cleita
(75,480 posts)hunter
(38,326 posts)... more likely to buy whatever shit is being sold.
That's why certain politicians, businesses, and anti-intellectual religions promote ignorance.
The U.S.A. is a paradise for grifters and many powerful people, grifters themselves, want to keep it that way.
Of course any modern nation needs technical people, but many of those are trained in such a narrow way that they never see the forest for the trees. That's how we get electrical engineers who "don't believe in evolution" or prominent surgeons who believe all sorts of crazy stuff.
In computer programming circles you encounter all sorts who are brilliant in that single art, and then they write about something outside their specialty and it's...
A solid Liberal Arts education strong in the Sciences, the Arts, Language, Maths, and History is a very good thing.
bhikkhu
(10,724 posts)...but that would probably be based on a glamorization of the past.
Perhaps it seems that there is a war on science because the media in general is less educated, or too lazy to think much about how they report things. My memory is that "the news" was much more balanced and informed in the past, and its hard to expect much of a population that gets its information from the equivalent of gossip rags.
In any case, critical thinking is a skill that has to be learned, it isn't just bestowed on us when we become adults. Its hard for me to imagine going through college without developing it, so the current high college attendance rates are a good sign.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)It's fairly astounding to see people flash their credentials while espousing clearly ignorant views on some of the more basic science matters. Of course, I live in Portland.
KentuckyWoman
(6,692 posts)If you could destroy every lab and hospital and doctor and university and library and every smart person to every ask a question on the entire planet you might set science back a few millennium. If you do it good enough you might could extinct the humans. Science still wins no matter what.