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(2,603 posts)
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:14 AM Jan 2016

Itís time to fix it later.

When we fought for and passed the PPACA (Obamacare) we did so screaming pass it now, fix it later. Well, we’re just a couple of years into it and we desperately need to fix it! 19 million more have been insured, yet 29 million remain uninsured. The 29 million uninsured are those that can least afford it and are getting fucked on their federal taxes for it. Most of those 29 million probably don’t even have the means to cover a copay, let alone a means to make a monthly payment.

Some of the 19 million newly covered under the PPACA are eternally grateful. They had insurance, paid in for decades, only to be dropped when tragedy hit. Those people were helped in ways many will never understand. However, it’s not the majority. The majority of newly covered have a barebones, slightly better than nothing, insurance plan. Those in that majority can’t even afford to use that plan. They pay in every week and get nothing in return because they can’t afford the copay.

It’s time to fix it later and we need to realize the FACT that we can’t fix a for profit system. We cannot fix a system where a company is allowed to take 20% while providing zero care or benefit. We cannot fix a system that allows unchecked pharmaceutical profits. We cannot fix a system that leaves our hospital system as a for profit industry. We cannot fix a system that makes us consumers. We must become patients.

If even one person in our country cannot be guaranteed healthcare, not emergency care, but healthcare, then we all fail. We need to be more important than greed.

Build single payer now, scrap the PPACA once we’ve built it. We can spend trillions for pointless wars, we can find trillions for our own healthcare.

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Itís time to fix it later. (Original Post) Cassiopeia Jan 2016 OP
this.... mike_c Jan 2016 #1
Thanks Cassiopeia Jan 2016 #5
You're absolutely right on the substance, Cass. elleng Jan 2016 #2
I don't give a time frame. Cassiopeia Jan 2016 #3
Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #4
I still think "fix it later" was the right call. But now it's later Bucky Jan 2016 #6
Well, we need to address our core mistake Cassiopeia Jan 2016 #7


(36,281 posts)
1. this....
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:18 AM
Jan 2016

This is what it comes down to. Piss on the political calculus-- as long as Americans cannot access health care as a basic human right, the system we have remains broken, no matter how improved over an even more broken system it might be. For profit health care must be abolished.


(132,403 posts)
2. You're absolutely right on the substance, Cass.
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:22 AM
Jan 2016

The timing, however, is the problem, election-time, that is, and then likelihood of attaining any big changes with this Congress.


(2,603 posts)
3. I don't give a time frame.
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 01:26 AM
Jan 2016

It's simply a fact. We cannot fix a system that is based purely on profit. We can never install enough checks and balances to make it fair.

Healthcare needs to be simplified. Healthcare needs to be done for the purpose of care, not profit. Will it happen in 2017? No.

However, 2017 would be an excellent year to start FIGHTING for it!

Response to Cassiopeia (Original post)


(54,319 posts)
6. I still think "fix it later" was the right call. But now it's later
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 11:06 AM
Jan 2016

The sooner you start a program, the sooner you learn the hard lessons, one mistake at a time, to run a large complex system right. It took the British & French 40 years of socialized medicine before they got their bureaucracies fixed so that things run smoothly there (and there are still problems). The sooner we make our mistakes, the sooner we learn how to protect our people.


(2,603 posts)
7. Well, we need to address our core mistake
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 11:13 AM
Jan 2016

and that is having a middleman making a profit.

It makes absolutely no sense for a corporation that provides zero medical care deciding what medical care we get and making a profit off of those choices.

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