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Turborama

(22,109 posts)
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 05:17 AM Jan 2016

A Passionate Plea From Australia: Dear America, Please Don’t Make Donald Trump Your President

"...we in Australia know exactly how it turns out. We’ve had a glimpse of what life under a Trump-like disaster can be like.

=snip=

He turned us into a nation of nervous, frightened, angry vigilantes. Vigilantes who have set fire to homes belonging to people who speak Arabic; who threatened to kill people just because their skin was dark; who wanted people expelled from this country simply because they spoke a different language; who assaulted people in the streets because they wore a scarf around their head. No questions asked. Anyone who looked ‘different’ was a threat to our national security and had to be dealt with. Attacks on these people have become more daring, more devastating, and more frequent as each week passes.

It hasn’t helped us or ‘saved’ us one little bit, because to put it simply, the threat wasn’t there in the first place. If anything, payback might be on the horizon. Or worse still, blowback.

Tony Abbott was removed from office a few months ago but the seeds of hate he planted are now growing uncontrollably wild and unchecked."

Full piece here: http://theaimn.com/dear-america-please-dont-make-donald-trump-your-president/


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A Passionate Plea From Australia: Dear America, Please Don’t Make Donald Trump Your President (Original Post) Turborama Jan 2016 OP
A Reply To Australia Vogon_Glory Jan 2016 #1
Reagan and Clinton gave us Murdock Proserpina Jan 2016 #2
for what it is worth DonCoquixote Jan 2016 #3
You know that's like blaming all Americans for Roger Ailes. Turborama Jan 2016 #6
And For Your Next Act You'll Tell Me That Doesn't Happen Vogon_Glory Jan 2016 #8
You just blamed Australia for Pupert Murdoch and defend it with even more stereotypes. Turborama Jan 2016 #9
You're Assiming That It's A Stereotype Vogon_Glory Jan 2016 #10
In which case... Myrddin Jan 2016 #11
Roger Ailes was Reagan's Media adviser anniebelle Jan 2016 #4
Dear Australia - Please send real estate listings if that happens. Vinca Jan 2016 #5
Australia should hope we don't end up with Cruz instead FLPanhandle Jan 2016 #7
Thank you for the warning and input in general, Hortensis Jan 2016 #12
But please do make him your Republican candidate. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2016 #13

Vogon_Glory

(9,132 posts)
1. A Reply To Australia
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 06:31 AM
Jan 2016

Once upon a time I was more sympathetic to earnest pleas from the Land Down Under. And I still oppose the chauvinism, the racism, the vigilante mindset, the environmental destruction, the cruelty, and so many other things that darkened the lamps of what I used to fervently believe was the shining city on the hill.

But since then I remember what blight you gave us in return. You gave us Rupert Murdoch, and as far as I'm concerned, your heights of moral superiority are gone, gone, gone.

 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
2. Reagan and Clinton gave us Murdock
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 06:57 AM
Jan 2016

by allowing the consolidation and off-shoring of the media. Australia is no more culpable for Murdock than the US is for W or any other 1% puppet.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
3. for what it is worth
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 07:19 AM
Jan 2016

I have never ever met an Australian that was not ashamed of Murdoch. Kepp in mind Murdoch made his fortune in the UK and the USA because Australia was not ready to give him everything he wanted.

Vogon_Glory

(9,132 posts)
8. And For Your Next Act You'll Tell Me That Doesn't Happen
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 11:35 AM
Jan 2016

And for your next act, you'll no doubt inform me that self-righteous Down-Under progressives never, ever blame all Americans for some [BLEEP] [CENSORED] like Donald Rumsfeld or whatever.

I am just about fed up with those foreign progressives who busy themselves polishing their little tin halos while tarring ALL Americans with the sins of the Republican/Tea Party/Kleptocracy while they cheerfully ignore the yobbos and knuckle-draggers in their own back yards. Fellow-sufferers in the trenches I ca live with; Little tin saints playing one-ups man games with the benighted Yankees while ignoring the shadows on their shores can go [stuff] themselves.

A reminder or two from time to time of the large and prominent bird-stains on their self-righteous righteous armor is good for them.

Vogon_Glory

(9,132 posts)
10. You're Assiming That It's A Stereotype
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 12:06 PM
Jan 2016

You're assuming that it's a stereotype. Like I wrote, there are Down-Under progressives who indeed are fellow-sufferers and are aware of their own societies' shortcomings. But I also don't doubt one **** bit that there is a middling-sized coterie among Down-Under progressives who love love love to play the Yankee-bashing games I described earlier. They aren't a majority, they may not even be a plurality, but they are certainly there.

I think that particular sub-set needs to be called on its ****; they should have it driven home that while genuine solidarity is welcome, hypocritical one-upsmanship is not.

Myrddin

(327 posts)
11. In which case...
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 01:13 PM
Jan 2016

... get Bernie voted in as next POTUS. Because as "Leader of the free World" your choice, as Americans affects, and reflects on, all of us in that "Free World"!

'W' the first time was a mistake, 'W' the second term was nigh on unforgiveable! WE ALL paid for that! But WE don't get to vote!

I've done some "Yankee-bashing" in my time, not because I have a vitriolic dislike of all Americans, but because I have dislike for the same Americans that are disliked, for the same reasons they are disliked, here at DU.

We have our own undesirables too, we have our own undesirable politicians, but our politicians, at best (worst) only slightly influence US and/or Free World Policy. American politicians influence thinking across the democratic world.

I have been lucky enough to work with many Diggers, they can be infuriatingly blunt, very often entertaining, but always sincere.

When an Aussie says something, they mean it, no BS!

If Bernie doesn't get elected - expect more shit to follow!

anniebelle

(899 posts)
4. Roger Ailes was Reagan's Media adviser
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 07:29 AM
Jan 2016

Fox was spawned by Reagan and Ailes and let's not forget Lee Atwater. All these are responsible for the hate groups that are thriving today. Their mission was to divide and conquer, (why do you think Reagan opened his campaign in Mississippi?) much like Hitler's plan. Have a scapegoat, get the ignorant and hateful to follow your hate speeches and, as they say, the rest is history. Unfortunately, this country has turned into 1930's Germany, with all the 'good amurikens' sitting on their couches watching football and fox, keeping up with the kardashians and blaming it all on those brown/black people, you fill in the blank. If all the registered Democrats would get out to vote, we would win, hands down. I would say their ploy has worked rather well.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
7. Australia should hope we don't end up with Cruz instead
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 10:08 AM
Jan 2016

With Trump the US is a laughingstock.

With Cruz the US is a smoldering crater.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. Thank you for the warning and input in general,
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 01:17 PM
Jan 2016

Turborama. I'm sorry it elicited such unpleasantness from some, but others appreciate it.

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