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cali

(114,904 posts)
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 06:25 AM Jan 2016

Trump's dangerous game in VT: issues 20,000 tix for 1400 seat venue. Police not happy

Sanders’ hometown braces for Trumpnado
Campaign gives out 20,000 tickets for 1,400-seat theater.

BURLINGTON, VT. — The city of Burlington is scrambling to react to Donald Trump’s decision to issue close to 20,000 tickets for a Thursday night rally at a theater that seats only 1,400 people.

Anticipating overflow crowds and a number of planned protests, the city’s police department took the unusual step on Friday of issuing a lengthy statement warning in part, “We reserve the prerogative to enforce the law in cases where expression or free movement throughout the city is unreasonably stifled through intimidation, force, obstruction, destruction of property, etc., or any other unlawful act.”


The campaign’s decision to issue tens of thousands of extra tickets comes after reports that supporters of Bernie Sanders — the city’s onetime mayor whose presidential campaign headquarters sits across a park from the site of Thursday’s rally — and other progressives have been requesting tickets en masse in an attempt to leave seats empty and embarrass Trump. Political campaigns, including Trump’s, regularly issue more tickets for events than venues can hold to account for no-shows, but the scale of this overflow ticketing is extraordinary.


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The department’s warning only contributes to locals’ expectation that Thursday night’s rally will create a brouhaha here like nothing in recent memory. “That’s basically unprecedented for the police to issue a statement like that,” said former Burlington city councilor Ed Adrian.


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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/donald-trump-bernie-sanders-burlington-vermont-217426

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Outside the venue, city officials are concerned after learning the Trump campaign issued far more free tickets than there are available seats. As of midday Wednesday, police said the campaign had distributed about 20,000.

“I wonder if the Trump campaign took into account the safety of the police officers who have to contend with large, dissatisfied crowds,” Burlington Police Chief Brandon del Pozo said. “This situation would place police officers in needless confrontations with citizenry.”

Del Pozo said the fact that the event provides residents the opportunity to listen to a major political candidate is the only reason police are allowing Trump to speak as scheduled.

“If Phish was holding a free concert at the Flynn and gave away 20,000 free tickets, we would cancel the event out of public safety concerns,” the chief said. “We are committed to accommodating the campaign because political speech is the very essence of the First Amendment.”

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http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/local/2016/01/06/police-raise-concerns-over-trump-event/78302990/

Trump visit spurs differing protest plans

http://www.timesargus.com/article/20160105/NEWS01/160109816/1003

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Trump's dangerous game in VT: issues 20,000 tix for 1400 seat venue. Police not happy (Original Post) cali Jan 2016 OP
He's a carnival barker. n/t woodsprite Jan 2016 #1
No doubt the type of judgement we could expect from a "President Trump" also. GoneFishin Jan 2016 #2
The police should cancel the event. B Calm Jan 2016 #3
Can they do that? It is a political rally. The police could cancel any rally they did not agree patricia92243 Jan 2016 #5
The police responsibility are for the public safety. B Calm Jan 2016 #7
Tickets issued versus seating? Any other type venue wouldn't be allowed to do that. Lars39 Jan 2016 #10
I agree. This is potentially dangerous. cali Jan 2016 #8
I also agree. n/t demmiblue Jan 2016 #21
The police should just stop anyone entering after 1400 sufrommich Jan 2016 #22
That's the plan cali Jan 2016 #23
Good, I'm sure Trump will agree with safety issues and not make an ass out of himself. B Calm Jan 2016 #27
...... cali Jan 2016 #28
LOL B Calm Jan 2016 #29
What Is Trump's Strategy In The First Place To Speak In Burlington?..... global1 Jan 2016 #4
I don't know. I suspect it's about publicity. cali Jan 2016 #6
Probably. If he creates a menace he'll spin it to make himself look good. I hope 11 people show up. GoneFishin Jan 2016 #9
I wouldn't be surprised if that's not the plan BuelahWitch Jan 2016 #37
Don't cancel, but police should tell them PuraVidaDreamin Jan 2016 #11
yes, like someplace in Alabama, or...! handmade34 Jan 2016 #13
There are no large venues in Vermont. cali Jan 2016 #17
That's What I Would Do - Transfer The Event To A Venue That Can Accommodate 20,000 People.... global1 Jan 2016 #19
The biggest venue in Vermont holds 4,000 people cali Jan 2016 #20
That Trump can sell 20,000 tickets in deep blue VT is what scares me. Yesterday I saw pics Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2016 #12
not sell, give away... handmade34 Jan 2016 #14
Irrelevant to my point. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2016 #15
I understand... handmade34 Jan 2016 #16
I hope so newfie11 Jan 2016 #24
Many have been taken by protesters. Read the op. cali Jan 2016 #18
Quite a few Bernie suppporters snagged them. Luminous Animal Jan 2016 #43
There's already a line. First person got there at 4:30 this morning and is a protester cali Jan 2016 #25
I can't wait for his treasury secretary (Bernie Madoff?) to start issuing Monopoly money KamaAina Jan 2016 #26
He wants to start a riot so then he can blame it on Bernie Sanders backers. Rex Jan 2016 #30
How the fuck is "political speech [is] the very essence of" free speech? How is political speech... ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2016 #31
supporters of Bernie Sanders... requesting tickets en masse in an attempt to leave seats empty mwrguy Jan 2016 #32
Huh? That's just nutty. No one believes that and you don't have a scrap of evidence. cali Jan 2016 #33
You pull that out of thin air or do you have proof? B Calm Jan 2016 #34
D'oh!!! Initech Jan 2016 #35
Link to live coverage of the rally cali Jan 2016 #36
Marking for later. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2016 #39
Deliberately creating havoc moondust Jan 2016 #38
He'll play this his way and the msm will give him all the press coverage he wants. B Calm Jan 2016 #42
In his dreams Trump sees this: flamingdem Jan 2016 #40
well, 1400 are for Trump supporters, the rest were mailed to illegal immigrants to lure Takket Jan 2016 #41

patricia92243

(12,595 posts)
5. Can they do that? It is a political rally. The police could cancel any rally they did not agree
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 07:21 AM
Jan 2016

with. Republicans would have a field day with that one.

As it is, Trump will be overjoyed with the yet again free publicity.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
22. The police should just stop anyone entering after 1400
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 10:01 AM
Jan 2016

have entered. If they cancel Trump becomes a victim and the conspiracy theories go viral.I can hear Alex Jones screaming already.

global1

(25,242 posts)
4. What Is Trump's Strategy In The First Place To Speak In Burlington?.....
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 07:18 AM
Jan 2016

Is he looking to create problems that he can later expound on in his crazy way?

Is he looking to embarrass Bernie or himself with this stunt?

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
9. Probably. If he creates a menace he'll spin it to make himself look good. I hope 11 people show up.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 07:32 AM
Jan 2016

BuelahWitch

(9,083 posts)
37. I wouldn't be surprised if that's not the plan
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 04:42 PM
Jan 2016

He'll likely bus people in since he's not popular in Vermont.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
13. yes, like someplace in Alabama, or...!
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 08:28 AM
Jan 2016


I'm just sorry I'm out of state working or I'd be there to see the fun

global1

(25,242 posts)
19. That's What I Would Do - Transfer The Event To A Venue That Can Accommodate 20,000 People....
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 09:46 AM
Jan 2016

if there is such a place in Burlington. Then when only a small amount of people show up and the venue looks empty - make sure the press is there to take pics and tell what a flop he is in Vermont.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
20. The biggest venue in Vermont holds 4,000 people
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 09:55 AM
Jan 2016

Gutterson Fieldhouse is a 4,035-seat hockey arena in Burlington, Vermont. It is home to the Vermont Catamounts men's and women's ice hockey teams. It is the largest indoor arena in the state of Vermont
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutterson_Fieldhouse

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
12. That Trump can sell 20,000 tickets in deep blue VT is what scares me. Yesterday I saw pics
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 08:27 AM
Jan 2016

from one of his events in Massachusetts and the stadium was packed to capacity.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
16. I understand...
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 08:31 AM
Jan 2016

but I think a lot of tickets going (only 6500 so far) are to protestors... should be interesting

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
25. There's already a line. First person got there at 4:30 this morning and is a protester
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 02:53 PM
Jan 2016

A deli next door to the theater has a Trump sandwich; baloney on white bread with white American cheese for $20.16.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
30. He wants to start a riot so then he can blame it on Bernie Sanders backers.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 03:39 PM
Jan 2016

Trump is a rotten scoundrel.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
31. How the fuck is "political speech [is] the very essence of" free speech? How is political speech...
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 03:41 PM
Jan 2016

...or anything a stupid politician has to say given more stature that what the speech of an musical artist, or any other speaker?

If you ask me, overall, political speech is the grittiest, most low-down, dirty, gutter, and unsophisticated of all speech. And so are (most of) those who spew it!

mwrguy

(3,245 posts)
32. supporters of Bernie Sanders... requesting tickets en masse in an attempt to leave seats empty
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 03:41 PM
Jan 2016

Does anyone believe that they haven't done the same thing at Hillary rallies?

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
33. Huh? That's just nutty. No one believes that and you don't have a scrap of evidence.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 03:44 PM
Jan 2016

You're simply doing a nasty, loony smear of Sanders supporters.

moondust

(19,979 posts)
38. Deliberately creating havoc
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 04:44 PM
Jan 2016

by overloading resources?

Possibly, but I don't know what he thinks he has to gain by it.

Takket

(21,563 posts)
41. well, 1400 are for Trump supporters, the rest were mailed to illegal immigrants to lure
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 04:59 PM
Jan 2016

them all into one place.

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