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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsArkansas State University on lockdown. Suspect surrounded by police. Active shooter but no shots
fired so far. He crashed into a barrier with his truck. Vibes.
(Here is a link)
Arkansas State University: Armed man on campus, CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/10/us/arkansas-state-university-armed-man/index.html
mikeysnot
(4,758 posts)but no shots fired???
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)What is the common denominator here? Seriously it is kinda weird.
tkmorris
(11,138 posts)No offense intended, I'm really wondering.
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)Same as open carry, right? Probably legal in that state.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)Just carrying a gun doesn't an active shooter make, or we'd be able to arrest all those idiots out there who carry guns into supermarkets and restaurants.
applegrove
(119,060 posts)a shot.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)if he hasn't fired any shots, he's not shooting, therefore he's not an active shooter.
"Armed man, thought to be dangerous, rams barricade" would be far more accurate. Now if this guy opens fire, then we've got an active shooter.
As much as I abhor the guns and the gun violence in this country, using the language precisely and correctly would be helpful.
applegrove
(119,060 posts)gun. He's threatened the campus with his truck and with a gun in his hands. People need to take cover. Or they might get shot. He's an active shooter.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)with a gun an active shooter, after a while "active shooter" will be meaningless.
Words really do matter. If he hasn't fired any shots, he's not an active shooter.
Armed man on campus seems more appropriate.
Same precautions would be called for.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)someone was breaking into a car, then ran off. A witness thought he might have a gun. No shots fired, probably a common punk doing his criminal work.
LiberalArkie
(15,746 posts)One of those armored vehicle on site
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)This good, responsible, law-abiding citizen is simply out exercising some very important constitutional rights, and we can't jump to any conclusions about what he might be doing until he's already done it. And even then, we can't know for sure, even if he makes a direct statement to the police or in open court about his motives. Mustn't rush to judgment; wouldn't be prudent and sensible.
Now, let me tell you what a great plan Donald Trump has for stopping every Muslim from coming into the United States, and how he's going to deport 12 million people cost-free.
LiberalArkie
(15,746 posts)LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)What am I missing?
applegrove
(119,060 posts)rammed his truck into a barrier at a college campus is an active shooter. It tells the students and the police a description of the situation. So they know how to behave.
petronius
(26,616 posts)"An active shooter is an individual actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area"
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/office-of-partner-engagement/active-shooter-incidents
The circumstances you describe are obviously quite serious, but the phrase "active shooter" implies a somewhat different scenario...
LiberalArkie
(15,746 posts)B2G
(9,766 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)Should be doing maintenance on that shitty truck instead of listening to Mark Levin every day....
B2G
(9,766 posts)Yeehaw!!
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)herding cats
(19,569 posts)LiberalArkie
(15,746 posts)LiberalArkie
(15,746 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)If anybody would have told me this sort of thing was frowned upon in Arkansas these days....
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Stallion
(6,476 posts)good luck kids
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