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kpete

(71,991 posts)
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 12:26 PM Dec 2015

Why don't we use prayer to defeat ISIS? It would save a lot of money.


Fox & Friends: "Prayer is more effective than gun control"


What bothers me most is most people who mutter the incantation "thoughts and prayers" don't actually pray. I'm a cynical atheist/agnostic who doesn't see much point in prayer but if people find it helpful or therapeutic then good for them. What I hate is the pose. Most of these people aren't actually praying, they're just telling people that they are.



The GOP is offering nothing more than thoughts and prayers
because the National Rifle Association has been bankrolling their campaigns.


http://www.salon.com/2015/12/03/fox_friends_prayer_is_more_effective_than_gun_control_and_if_you_disagree_with_that_youre_lining_up_with_terrorists/
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/12/prayer-gun-control-mass-shooting-san-bernardino/418563/
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/after-san-bernardino-shooting-prayers-from-congress-and-calls-for-action/
http://www.cbs46.com/story/20613132/texas-gov-rick-perry-says-prayer-is-more-effective-than-gun-control
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Why don't we use prayer to defeat ISIS? It would save a lot of money. (Original Post) kpete Dec 2015 OP
I'm a nothing (can't be bothered to get whooped up about belief or non-belief) ScreamingMeemie Dec 2015 #1
Most people use "prayers" as a meaningless platitude to make themselves feel better. cleanhippie Dec 2015 #2
You nailed it. It's the fault of "fake prayers." immoderate Dec 2015 #3
Yep, exactly! And then they use god words and prayer as a dog whistle of how RKP5637 Dec 2015 #4
Thoughts and Prayers (Chris Murphy) WhaTHellsgoingonhere Dec 2015 #5

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
1. I'm a nothing (can't be bothered to get whooped up about belief or non-belief)
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 12:29 PM
Dec 2015

And I feel like that too. These people (a lot of them) are the pious man in the parable of the Good Samaritan.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
2. Most people use "prayers" as a meaningless platitude to make themselves feel better.
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 12:33 PM
Dec 2015

Which makes it difficult to them apart from the ones that want to use it as a policy tool.


Either way, they both hold the same amount of effectiveness: zero.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
3. You nailed it. It's the fault of "fake prayers."
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 12:34 PM
Dec 2015

People get shot. Republicans, all of them, SAY they are going to pray for us, but do they? I don't think so. Too many dead for that.

--imm

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
4. Yep, exactly! And then they use god words and prayer as a dog whistle of how
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 12:43 PM
Dec 2015

devoted they are, and the flock will nod and agree, oh what wonderful and masterful people the republicans are. America really needs to grow up and quit believing in Santa Claus. There aren't any magical cures! Want a cure, follow the money trail!

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