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Please don't fall for it (Original Post) jberryhill Nov 2015 OP
Goes with this thread AuntPatsy Nov 2015 #1
Thanks for posting the Doonesbury Toon saidsimplesimon Nov 2015 #14
"Grayzones": Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2015 #2
Bernie called out the GOP for this kind of thinking tonight in Cleveland. /nt think Nov 2015 #3
"Ne Vous Laissez Pas Manipuler" (Dave Zirin - The Nation) DinahMoeHum Nov 2015 #4
20 states have cowards for governors roguevalley Nov 2015 #5
K&R nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #6
That is exactly correct. Blue_In_AK Nov 2015 #7
Bullshit...ISIS does not care if we accept Syrian refugees or not, aside from.. Joe the Revelator Nov 2015 #8
Watch out! NonMetro Nov 2015 #15
Rightly so. Anti-refugee prejudice (judging all by the actions of none) has no place here Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2015 #19
Yes IS does want us to reject Syrian refugees, for lots of reasons. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2015 #17
Kickage MrScorpio Nov 2015 #9
Sadly, we're already falling for it. BenRKing Nov 2015 #10
They should choke on their Thanksgiving dinners jberryhill Nov 2015 #11
Posted on Facebook w/ this... Oilwellian Nov 2015 #12
Giving this a kick Tree-Hugger Nov 2015 #13
Perfect visual lark Nov 2015 #16
They want us to stop talking about wage increases and health care an Social Security/Medicar and Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #18

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
14. Thanks for posting the Doonesbury Toon
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:28 PM
Nov 2015

Twitter, Facebook and most other social media is not accessible. I don't have any accounts. For this reason, when anyone posts a thread with just a link to FB or Twitter I must scroll through the replies to get the gist of the topic.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,500 posts)
2. "Grayzones":
Mon Nov 16, 2015, 09:19 PM
Nov 2015
http://www.memrijttm.org/dabiq-vii-feature-article-there-is-no-longer-any-gray-zone-the-world-includes-only-two-camps-that-of-isis-and-that-of-its-enemies.html

"The grayzone is critically endangered, rather on the brink of extinction. Its endangerment began with the blessed operations of September 11th, as these operations manifested two camps before the world for mankind to choose between, a camp of Islam – without the body of Khilāfah [a caliphate] to represent it at the time – and a camp of kufr [unbelief] – the crusader coalition… But the fiery zeal of the broken Muslim Ummah began to cool by the hazy events known as 'the Arab Spring' as well as the lack of a body representing Islam (the Khilāfah) then. The Muslims saw the same aforementioned movements, 'scholars,' callers, sects, and even the apostate tawāghīt [rulers of the Arab states] get involved in 'supporting' the cause of the oppressed Muslims in Shām [Syria]. And so confusion spread, and the withering of the grayzone was slowed or almost halted…"

"The Muslims in the West will quickly find themselves between one of two choices, they either apostatize and adopt the kufrī [infidel] religion propagated by Bush, Obama, Blair, Cameron, Sarkozy, and Hollande in the name of Islam so as to live amongst the kuffār [infidels] without hardship, or they perform hijrah [emigrate] to the Islamic State and thereby escape persecution from the crusader governments and citizens... Muslims in the crusader countries will find themselves driven to abandon their homes for a place to live in the Khilāfah, as the crusaders increase persecution against Muslims living in Western lands so as to force them into a tolerable sect of apostasy in the name of 'Islam' before forcing them into blatant Christianity and democracy."

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
8. Bullshit...ISIS does not care if we accept Syrian refugees or not, aside from..
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:19 AM
Nov 2015

...their ability to easier slip into the country if we have opened our borders to them.

This is the same tired argument made every time Radical Muslims decide to attack people who are just going about their evenings.

NonMetro

(631 posts)
15. Watch out!
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:29 PM
Nov 2015

I was just hidden in another thread for saying about the same thing!

First time I was hidden, too!

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
19. Rightly so. Anti-refugee prejudice (judging all by the actions of none) has no place here
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 07:30 PM
Nov 2015

No refugee has committed a terrorist act in Paris or America.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
17. Yes IS does want us to reject Syrian refugees, for lots of reasons.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 07:09 PM
Nov 2015

IS wants them out of Syria.

IS wants their land and wealth.

IS wants the West to be more confused and more tied up in knots.

IS wants careless people in the West to automatically reject Muslims and Middle Easterners so that there can be more political infighting and strife in the West.

IS wants to increase anti-Muslim sentiment to increase their recruitment.

IS wants you to believe that heavily screened refugees are a terrorist threat whereas in fact IS uses home-grown and born recruits in the countries.

IS wants you to ignore the fact that lightly screen tourists and students are much easier to "slip in" than refugees, so they don't use refugees.

Don't feed the bad wolf. Feed the good wolf. (Native American saying)

BenRKing

(1 post)
10. Sadly, we're already falling for it.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:22 AM
Nov 2015

Open letter to governors (including the governor of my state) issuing anti-Syrian-refugee statements following the Paris attacks: The "terror" in "terrorism" stands for the confused, irrational cowardice the perpetrators hope to inspire in their audience (the same sort of cowardice, by the way, that led the US State Dept to restrict entrance to European Jewish refugees between 1941 and 1944: United States Policy Toward Jewish Refugees, 1941–1952). Your statements prove their success.

Clearly, bad guys will try to enter our country...and succeed; they will do so whether we turn our backs on those in need or not. Clearly, accepting refugees entails accepting some statistical risk...which is likely a rounding error in comparison to the statistical risk we face anyway. The risk entailed in helping victims of tragedy is why we tend to call those who do it heroes, and why we call those who refuse cowards.

Not that I expect it will make any difference, but I just contacted my state's governor about this just now. Twenty two other state governors have joined his position. If you live in one of these states, maybe consider letting your governor know what you think of him/her.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
12. Posted on Facebook w/ this...
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:49 AM
Nov 2015

“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.”

K&R

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
13. Giving this a kick
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:54 AM
Nov 2015

Very, very well done cartoon.

Proud to say my governor (Tom Wolf - PA) has not fallen for it.

Todays_Illusion

(1,209 posts)
18. They want us to stop talking about wage increases and health care an Social Security/Medicar and
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 07:23 PM
Nov 2015

give that war machine more money. I want to hear how all that spending doesn't seem to be helping at all, the elimination of our rights via the Patriot act, the 16 intelligence agencies. And when did what happens in France get to determine what happens in the U.S.A.?

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