Paris shootings in city centre and explosion at Stade de France

[sufrommich]

At least one man opened fire with an automatic gun at the Cambodge restaurant in the 11th district.

Liberation newspaper reports four deaths. It also reports shootings near the Bataclan arts centre.

An explosion is also reported to have targeted a bar near Stade de France, where France were hosting Germany.

Reports say President Francois Hollande was watching the match and has been evacuated.

A BBC journalist at the Cambodge restaurant says he can see 10 people on the road either dead or seriously injured.




http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34814203



New report says 60 dead. Three different incidences.Reports of hostage situation.

[Rose Siding]

1. 4 locations now, with hostages

per CNN. I think they said a theater is the 4th

[philosslayer]

84. It up to 7 locations

5 verified explosions at about 6:20 PM EST

[applegrove]

2. Vibes to all.

[True Earthling]

3. 18 dead

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34814203

At least 18 people have been killed in several shootings in the French capital, Paris, as well as explosions at the Stade de France.
At least one man opened fire with an automatic gun at the Petit Cambodge restaurant in the 11th district.
Liberation newspaper reports four deaths. It also reports shootings near the Bataclan arts centre.
Three explosions are also reported outside a bar near the Stade de France, where France were hosting Germany.
Reports say French President Francois Hollande was watching the match and has been moved to safety.

[4139]

4. .

[B2G]

5. News is now reporting suicide bombers.

This is bad.

[sufrommich]

8. Jesus,this is horrific.

just heard there are 60 hostages.

[FLPanhandle]

6. Sounds like a Muslim extremist type attack

The right wing will gain by this.

[B Calm]

13. or an American with a gun on vacation.

[B2G]

23. This is probably the most offensive post I've ever seen.

Congrats. That's quite an accomplishement.

[B Calm]

25. How's that? It was my first thought, yours might have been Muslim terrorist.

[B2G]

28. In 3 different locations at the same time?

Idiotic

[philosslayer]

30. Careful....

I just got a post hidden because I postulated a theory that did NOT include this being a terrorist attack by Muslims. Evidently this is no longer a free-thinking site where we evaluate evidence before jumping to conclusions.

[dumbcat]

32. That site is long gone

I'm sorry to say.

[philosslayer]

35. It's remarkable

Long ago, if someone had the kneejerk reaction that any type of attack was perpetrated by Muslims, they were quickly (and rightfully) denounced. Now, its the exact opposite. All I'm asking is that we await evidence before jumping to unwarranted conclusions that may get innocent people hurt.

[B Calm]

40. I never said I thought it was Muslims.

Someone else suggested that and thought it would help republicans.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

34. Creative speculation is not allowed on DU

Especially since if it was, you could just continue to spout such BULLSHIT even after it is proven otherwise.

[philosslayer]

36. Are you kidding!!?!?!?!!?

This board is FILLED with creative speculation!! NO ONE KNOWS THE SOURCE OF THESE ATTACKS YET!! No one!!! Do you? Please fill us in if so.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

38. Calling it a "false flag" attack is Alex Jones style bullshit

Don't worry. I'm on to you. You are transparent.

[philosslayer]

39. I said it with a question mark

As a theory. An idea. Are ideas that offensive to you?

[melman]

41. Yes. That kind of truther bullshit is extremely offensive

[demosincebirth]

37. You can't say muslim terrorist here.

[B2G]

93. "A number of years"?

Wow. How harsh.

[KamaAina]

60. No, you just got a post hidden because you postulated a theory that DID include this being

a false-flag attack designed to drum up hatred against immigrants.

[Waldorf]

26. What a sick thing to say.

[B Calm]

29. Really, with all the shootings in America it's a logical thought!

[840high]

110. What the heck is wrong with you?

[B Calm]

111. I'm a little over weight, but I been exercising. What's wrong with you?

[840high]

112. lol - good one.

[aikoaiko]

55. And the jury results are in....

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Sounds like a Muslim extremist type attack
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7340374

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Do we now attribute events to Muslims with NO evidence whatsoever???? Is that what this site has become? Sickening.

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[B Calm]

81. 7 to 0

[FLPanhandle]

90. I don't think I've ever been alerted on before.

Thanks for the results!

[Baclava]

7. BREAKING: French police confirm that hostages are being held at the Bataclan concert hall in #Paris.

https://twitter.com/search?q=paris+hostages&ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Esearch

[smirkymonkey]

9. Oh dear god! How awful!

[melman]

10. Holy shit. This is unspeakably terrible

[B2G]

11. 26 dead, 60 being held hostage in a concert hall

God in heaven.

[sufrommich]

14. Where did you hear the 26 dead number from?

[greatauntoftriplets]

17. I just heard that number on ABC news.

[B2G]

20. ABC

They said the number came from the French police.

[sufrommich]

22. Thanks. nt

[LittleBlue]

15. Holy shit

Praying for those 60 to live.

[Blue_Adept]

12. Remember information is always very sketchy in these situations

While I don't cast doubt on numbers and what's being reported, every incident has a different look when it's all said and done from the initial reports.

[AngryAmish]

16. France is in NATO

They were attacked by Daesh.

We might be treaty obligated to invade. Jeez.

[KamaAina]

67. Invade? Daesh (ISIS) is only a country in its own twisted little world view.

So how would we "invade" it?

[riderinthestorm]

18. Oh no!!

[sufrommich]

19. CNN reporting 2 explosions occured at soccer stadium.

[B2G]

21. And 60K are still inside. nt

[sufrommich]

24. Wow,imagine the chaos. Holy shit. nt

[KamaAina]

77. France 2:0 Germany, full time

Yes, they finished the match!

http://www.france24.com/en/20151113-france-friendly-played-finish-despite-paris-attacks

What was billed as a glamour friendly between France and world champions Germany was played to a finish on Friday, with France winning 2-0, despite two loud explosions being heard from outside the stadium during the first half.

It later became apparent that the explosions were connected to events unfolding elsewhere in the French capital on Friday evening, with police saying at least 18 people had been killed following "multiple shootings".

Two unsettlingly loud explosions appeared to emanate from outside the national stadium in the northern Paris suburb of Saint-Denis and French president Francois Hollande, who was in attendance, left the stadium early amid the reports of shootings in central Paris and of an ongoing hostage crisis in the Bataclan concert venue.

Despite that, very few, if any, of the crowd of close to 80,000 at the Stade de France appeared to be aware of any drama as they celebrated goals by Olivier Giroud and Andre-Pierre Gignac late in either half of the match.

[Go Vols]

27. France 24

is saying 40 dead now.Watching it live and seems no one knows what exactly is happening.

Edit: one body dismembered now reported

100 hostages

[sufrommich]

31. CNN reporting that explosions can be heard on

tape from soccer game.

[climber3986]

33. This will make the migrant crisis even more difficult

watch for a gun de-regulation push across europe as well.

[B Calm]

43. Really. . .

[climber3986]

46. ?

You don't think the right will try to exploit this attack to push their agenda?

[Ace Rothstein]

56. I don't think this is the time to think about how some may use this politically.

[2naSalit]

109. Actually, it is.

Recall the Shock Doctrine, while the public is on a state of shock, swiftly move to gain more control before they come to their senses. The sooner the shock wears off the better for those who have the capacity to think these events through.

[Waldorf]

42. Now the death count is up to 60. And on CNN they played a video of the soccer game when you heard

a big explosion there.

[sufrommich]

44. I just saw that.Wow. nt

[karadax]

45. Coincidence that this happens after the President says..

I wonder if this is in retaliation for the Kurdish / US attack/ recapture of the ISIS capital.

More likely it's muscle flexing due to the President saying that they were contained. They're showing that they're far from contained. They're deeply entrenched everywhere.

[lpbk2713]

47. Focusing an attack on civilians is a cowardly act.

And I don't care which side does it or how justifed the attackers think they might be.

This is horrible.

[NYCButterfinger]

48. Call it for what it is-Terror

[FLPanhandle]

49. France takes them in and this is their thanks?

Maybe the right wing is correct and the open door policy was wrong.

[brooklynite]

52. Different subsets...

...however, France has always had a problem with assimilating muslims (generally poor) into the economy and culture.

[randome]

71. They are 'monsters' first, then 'muslims'.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Aspire to inspire.[/center][/font][hr]

[brooklynite]

73. True, but they draw on the discontent of the muslim population to find recruits

[brooklynite]

50. Hollande - all border crossings closed

[sufrommich]

53. Wow. Shades of 9/11. nt

[B2G]

54. Don't blame him one bit.

[sufrommich]

51. Ugh,CNN reporting that texts coming from concert hall are begging

police to enter hall because "they are killing us".


I feel sick.

[narnian60]

57. No words.

[Ace Rothstein]

58. Hopefully that is not the case.

The good news is that it is CNN which is frequently wrong.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

59. They probably have bombs and will kill everyone as soon as the police storm the place

Motherfuckers. The mental illness of hatred and extremism are winning tonight.

[opiate69]

63. "Fatalities, Hostages Taken At Eagles Of Death Metal Concert In Paris"

http://www.stereogum.com/1843922/fatalities-hostages-taken-at-eagles-of-death-metal-concert-in-paris/news/

There’s a major, terrifying story developing in Paris right now. Bataclan, the Paris venue where Eagles Of Death Metal are playing a sold-out show tonight, has been the focus of a terrorist attack. According to the Montreal radio station CJAD, there have been several fatalities, and about 60 people are being held hostage. There are terrorist attacks happening all across Paris right now.

The Guardian reports that there has been some sort of shootout at Bataclan, and now hostages have been taken. The Telegraph reports at least 18 people have been killed in the city, as gunmen with kalashnikov machine guns and grenades have been attacking people. In addition to the Bataclan situation, there have been attacks at a soccer stadium and a Cambodian restaurant.

The attacks must’ve happened during or after the show. The photo above was taken earlier tonight during the show, so we know that the band was onstage for at least part of the night.

Live feed to English language French TV: http://www.france24.com/en/livefeed

[philosslayer]

64. I read a posting that said they were beheading people one by one

Unconfirmed of course.

[bettyellen]

69. they say the police has media blackout enforced for action at theater until it is over

so they could be raiding it and we will not know until they situation is over.

[sufrommich]

61. Police and many,many ambulances heading to concert area.

[bettyellen]

62. 42 confirmed now.

[lpbk2713]

65. Live video from Paris ...

Narration is in French.

Link: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11995277/Watch-live-Scenes-from-Paris-shootings.html

People are walking around like the situation at this location may have been contained.
There are still covered bodies in front of the concert hall. This was a vicious attack.

[sufrommich]

66. Eye witness at concert hall says terrorists were silent and

"just started shooting". Via CNN.

[sufrommich]

68. CNN reporting that "over 1000" people are in the hall. nt

[bettyellen]

72. oh fuck no.

[opiate69]

74. French TV says capacity of 1500, but only around 60 hostages estimated.

http://www.france24.com/en/livefeed

[sufrommich]

76. Thanks for that.I hope CNN is wrong. nt

[opiate69]

78. You and me both...

[City Lights]

70. msnbc reporting that hostages inside theater are being executed one-by-one.

[sufrommich]

75. Oh my God.

[Ace Rothstein]

79. France is hosting Euro 2016 next year.

Ugh, this could get really bad.

[bettyellen]

80. booms- gunfire and possibly grenade noises coming from area of possibly inside of concert hall.

[sufrommich]

82. Eye witness from concert hall said terrorists aren't

wearing masks.They have no intention of being taken alive.

[bettyellen]

86. somehow they have gotten a lot out- estimated 28 still inside after some sort of raid?

[sufrommich]

88. Really? Good,I didn't see that. nt

[bettyellen]

91. raid apparently just ended- no number on fatalities, but two shooters are now dead.

[sufrommich]

94. Yep,just saw that.I wonder if there were only two shooters

or only two are dead.

[Ace Rothstein]

95. I saw one source claiming that there was one arrest made.

The person arrested said they are from Syria and associated with ISIS.

[EX500rider]

85. Hopefully GIGN storms the place asap

[sufrommich]

87. What is GIGN? Army? Police? nt

[EX500rider]

92. GIGN:

The National Gendarmerie Intervention Group, commonly abbreviated GIGN (French: Groupe d'Intervention de la Gendarmerie Nationale), is a special operations unit of the French Armed Forces. It is part of the National Gendarmerie and is trained to perform counter-terrorist and hostage rescue missions in France or anywhere else in the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Gendarmerie_Intervention_Group

[sufrommich]

97. Thank you. nt

[NutmegYankee]

107. One of the best counter-terrorism forces in the world.

Like SWAT, but way better.

[Warren DeMontague]

89. Fuck.

Fuck the people who do this shit.

[sufrommich]

96. Two gunmen killed at the Bataclan - AP

The AP is now citing two Paris police officials as saying that security forces have ended their assault on the Bataclan, killing at least two attackers. Neither official could be named, citing ongoing operations throughout the city.

According to the agency, one official described “carnage” inside the building, saying the attackers had tossed explosives at the hostages. Both officials said they expected the toll of victims to rise.

[bettyellen]

99. mayor said six or seven locations were attacked. wonder if the gumen in cars

popped up other places.

[sufrommich]

100. CNN reporting 100 dead in concert hall.

[bettyellen]

101. I can't wrap my head around this sickness.

[sufrommich]

102. I can't either. Horrendous. nt

[TeddyR]

103. Just saw that there was an attack

On a shopping mall as well.

[sufrommich]

104. Wow,didn't know that. nt

[TeddyR]

105. Yeah

But not sure how many casualties. Certainly didn't look good.

[bettyellen]

106. 118 just in the concert hall. six other attacks at least 42.

[Cha]

108. ..