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L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 01:19 PM Oct 2015

5 Black Churches in the Ferguson Area Have Burned Since Last Week, Media Shrugs

In the last 10 days, five black churches have been set on fire in the St. Louis area. And unlike the last wave of black church fires this summer in which weather played a role in some of the fires, these all appear to be the work of arsonists. The lack of media coverage about these fires is highly-noticeable, given the media’s hyper-intensive coverage of rioters in Baltimore setting fire to a CVS earlier this year.

“It is arson,” St. Louis Fire Department captain Garon Mosby told Fox 2 Saint Louis. “These are being intentionally set.”

This most recent wave of church fires are taking place in North St. Louis, near Ferguson, where racial tensions have been particularly high since the August 2014 shooting of Michael Brown. The department of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms is investigating the arsons.

On October 8th, the first fire was set at the Bethel Non-Denominational Church. Between October 10th and October 14th, three more churches were burned — New Northside Missionary Baptist Church, St. Augustine Catholic Church, and the New Testament Church of Christ. In the early hours of Saturday morning, another fire was set at the New Life Missionary Baptist Church. All 5 churches are within three miles of each other.

more at link

http://usuncut.com/black-lives-matter/black-churches-burning-ferguson-area/

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5 Black Churches in the Ferguson Area Have Burned Since Last Week, Media Shrugs (Original Post) L0oniX Oct 2015 OP
Interesting! It seems M$M could have raked in some $$$$$'s on RKP5637 Oct 2015 #1
They prefer to defend Israel and her new walls rather than deal malaise Oct 2015 #6
Yep, and they often tout directly or indirectly how perfect the US is. RKP5637 Oct 2015 #23
Grumble mumble ...something about prostitutes, drugs and Kim. L0oniX Oct 2015 #35
Well, no guns were used, so it isn't important to MSM. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #40
Five WHITE PROTESTANT CHURCHES burned in Bel Air, Ca. Can you IMAGINE randys1 Oct 2015 #8
Hell, a couple years ago when someone graffitied a Koo Koo Roo it was all over the news C Moon Oct 2015 #17
It's incredible! I remember Chris Matthews asking when Obama RKP5637 Oct 2015 #19
Yeah I got satellite radio 47of74 Oct 2015 #56
Well it seems that they don't want them black folks to get all uppity and start rioting you know. LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #14
See my post #19 I just did. To me RW M$M is the blame for RKP5637 Oct 2015 #21
I know I am being brain washed by my music, Led Zep and others, but on the car radio LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #24
Great to hear!!!!!!!!!!! RKP5637 Oct 2015 #28
Check out the link and the links on the right side of the page. They also stream LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #29
Thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RKP5637 Oct 2015 #39
WOW! Thanks again! This is just an incredible station! I have an RKP5637 Oct 2015 #41
Since the DJ's a just people off the street who bring their own LP's, you get LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #42
Exactly my kind of station! Everything here seems to be Clear Channel/iHeart RKP5637 Oct 2015 #43
KABF is naturally a pretty progressive station in a relatively progressive area of Arkansas LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #44
Thanks for a additional detail. I haven't stopped listening since you directed me to it! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2015 #48
I just added KABF to my Internet radio Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #52
Oh, Don't tell anyone that ACORN is still around.. Shhhh LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #45
We have one here in Dallas also. malokvale77 Oct 2015 #55
This attack on Balck Churches is scarry: White Hate groups are rising lewebley3 Oct 2015 #68
Thank you for posting this, LOoniX marym625 Oct 2015 #2
More than a party to the racism - an instigator. erronis Oct 2015 #13
the drum beat goes on.. marym625 Oct 2015 #65
I have always thought... malokvale77 Oct 2015 #57
I agree. marym625 Oct 2015 #66
Hate speech is behind a lot of our problems including racism jwirr Oct 2015 #71
that is horrifying virtualobserver Oct 2015 #3
It seems to me that Faux pas Oct 2015 #4
maybe the church insurance companies can get action...this must be getting expensive for someone dembotoz Oct 2015 #5
It's shameful that this is not getting reported /nt think Oct 2015 #7
I've no words.. JackInGreen Oct 2015 #9
Seems like they should post some guards. Jester Messiah Oct 2015 #10
Yep, the media would report on THAT all right! Scuba Oct 2015 #58
This does not come as a surprise to me. Many of us have jwirr Oct 2015 #11
Maybe this is the response for Anonymous hacking the KKK. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #51
I hadn't heard that the KKK was hacked. jwirr Oct 2015 #67
It was in defense of a woman that was being harassed on Twitter.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #69
Thank you. The fires are likely the work of a group of some jwirr Oct 2015 #70
Could be someone thinking it would impress the Klan so they could join.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #72
Local affiliate link Quackers Oct 2015 #12
Thanks for posting-I didn't know about this. jalan48 Oct 2015 #15
Thank you for posting this. MuseRider Oct 2015 #16
Had not seen this reported. KittyWampus Oct 2015 #18
Did you notice . . . OldRedneck Oct 2015 #20
And the terrorism against black American citizens continues.. mountain grammy Oct 2015 #22
What is wrong with these people? Photographer Oct 2015 #25
K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #26
These fires have been extensively covered on the local newscasts usually the lead story justhanginon Oct 2015 #27
Thanks for update. 840high Oct 2015 #33
As said elsewhere, had these been white churches we'd be hearing all about "War on Christianity" nt arcane1 Oct 2015 #30
This is horrible. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #31
Are we back in the fifties again? WHEN CRABS ROAR Oct 2015 #32
Looks like it. Enthusiast Oct 2015 #37
I would say it is a community member doing this pediatricmedic Oct 2015 #34
It's high time they catch some of these arsonists. Why do they always get away? Enthusiast Oct 2015 #36
From arcane1's FB page: KamaAina Oct 2015 #38
Let's just hope the FBI does its job honestly KeepItReal Oct 2015 #46
+1,000's malaise Oct 2015 #47
Yes, but Trump's hair *looks* like it's been burned. cui bono Oct 2015 #49
The media is afraid to for fear it'll stir em up to kill whitey all over the country.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #50
The Fed is investigating JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #53
Agree. And, it's six now pintobean Oct 2015 #62
too busy with bunny ranch stories... alas tomm2thumbs Oct 2015 #54
Another shameful omission by our bought-and-paid-for "free" press. Scuba Oct 2015 #59
Kick yardwork Oct 2015 #60
Got to cover the Odom crap and football. lonestarnot Oct 2015 #61
On NPR this morning MynameisBlarney Oct 2015 #63
Crime Stoppers put up a 2000 reward, too. pintobean Oct 2015 #64
No cops or racist...I meant, uh, crazed gunmen burned down those churches d_legendary1 Oct 2015 #73
Do not undermisguesstimate the power of Hate. Give $ and support to Morris Dees & SPLC MasonDreams Oct 2015 #74

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
1. Interesting! It seems M$M could have raked in some $$$$$'s on
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 01:24 PM
Oct 2015

this, but it seems it conflicts with their agenda for some reason.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
23. Yep, and they often tout directly or indirectly how perfect the US is.
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 02:44 PM
Oct 2015

There are millions upon millions of people in this country hurting for many reasons, and M$M often just ignores them.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
8. Five WHITE PROTESTANT CHURCHES burned in Bel Air, Ca. Can you IMAGINE
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 01:37 PM
Oct 2015

the press coverage

Come on folks, who is surprised?

Who remembers the back after back stories of the two white women who were murdered a few years back?

One was in DC and thought to have been killed, maybe, by a congressman (wasn't him) and the other was the pretty white wife in California who ended up in a river or bay somewhere, that one was on the news everyday for a year.


White people matter, Black people dont, period. I mean come on and get with it, folks

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
19. It's incredible! I remember Chris Matthews asking when Obama
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 02:28 PM
Oct 2015

was first elected and they were after him, so, he says, something like is there still racism in America? I was like DUH, where have you been Chris?

They keep buying up all the media in the US. It's like a Joseph Goebbels takeover of US media. I still think many Americans are clueless. They come home tired from work, flip on the TV/radio, hear the information or lack of from M$M, and many think they are now well informed as to what's going on.

I have a friend that started spouting RW stuff, for example, and I asked, where the F are your getting that from. Turns out he was doing a lot of cross-country driving and often the only thing he could get on the radio in many areas was creepy Rush Limbaugh. This was way back, so I gathered up a bunch of cassette tapes and CDs with great music and told him here, listen to this instead, you'll be better informed.

He got the idea and realized he was being brainwashed. And he's just one of I bet millions that get sucked into misleading information and/or the deliberate omission of information by M$M.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
56. Yeah I got satellite radio
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 05:31 AM
Oct 2015

I did a lot of driving for work and I'd rather not listen to hate radio.

LiberalArkie

(15,765 posts)
14. Well it seems that they don't want them black folks to get all uppity and start rioting you know.
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 01:52 PM
Oct 2015

God I am so tired of this crap. Being raised in south Arkansas 15 miles from the Louisiana border. It wasn't this bad back in the 50's and 60's.. We had the prevalent Jim Crow racism, but all the killings and burnings that is happening now outside of the deep south is damn strange.

I do hear all the time up here in central Arkansas from people I would not think as racist the phrase "You have to get yourself a gun when the (insert racial word here) start rioting". That seems to be the prevailing reason the "sane" people give for buying new guns. Are there organizations out there who really believe that they can provoke massive rioting?

Just what in the hell is going on?

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
21. See my post #19 I just did. To me RW M$M is the blame for
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 02:39 PM
Oct 2015

all of it. They keep pumping people up into a panic mode. It's disgusting.

LiberalArkie

(15,765 posts)
24. I know I am being brain washed by my music, Led Zep and others, but on the car radio
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 02:45 PM
Oct 2015

I listened to Little Rock community radio station that was started by ACORN. They carry Jim Hightower and others, so I am getting the good brain washing there. I even feel cleaner ;>

LiberalArkie

(15,765 posts)
29. Check out the link and the links on the right side of the page. They also stream
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 03:04 PM
Oct 2015
http://www.kabf.org

100,000 watts started by ACORN, they are kind what Pacifica used to be.

Here is their about page http://www.kabf.org/?page_id=170

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
41. WOW! Thanks again! This is just an incredible station! I have an
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 05:51 PM
Oct 2015

internet radio, put the call letters in and saved it to my favorites. Sounds great! Great music and great people!

LiberalArkie

(15,765 posts)
42. Since the DJ's a just people off the street who bring their own LP's, you get
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 05:54 PM
Oct 2015

an entirely different type of music a lot of the time. They do a heck of a lot of jazz and a lot of good talk shows at different times.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
43. Exactly my kind of station! Everything here seems to be Clear Channel/iHeart
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 06:11 PM
Oct 2015

Radio, nowhere near a left station. The one in town is in love with Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and anything right of right they can find. I'll do some donations too!

LiberalArkie

(15,765 posts)
44. KABF is naturally a pretty progressive station in a relatively progressive area of Arkansas
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 06:19 PM
Oct 2015

It was a circuit judge in Little Rock that allowed gay marriage and started the ball rolling. I accidentally found it a couple of years ago and now I never change it. I have not listened to NPR really since then. They don't seem to do much national news (I guess it just cost too much). But they have a really big coverage area compared to the Big Boys in the area.

KABF (88.3 FM) is a community radio station in Little Rock, Arkansas, USA. Its nickname is "The Voice of the People" which refers to its populist official mission: to serve middle- and lower-income Arkansans. It broadcasts at 88.3 FM and is an organ of the Arkansas Broadcasting Foundation (hence the call letters ABF).

KABF is non-corporate and non-commercial. KABF's format is music and talk, with diverse programming. The station went on the air on August 31, 1984. KABF broadcasts at 91,000 watts, and its primary coverage radius is 60 miles. The station is affiliated with the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now and shares a building with ACORN's headquarters at 2101 South Main Street in Little Rock. Like all public broadcasting, KABF relies on listener contributions for a large part of its operating budget.

Its sister station is KNON in Dallas, Texas.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
55. We have one here in Dallas also.
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 05:24 AM
Oct 2015

KNON 89.3. Probably the same format since it was started by ACORN decades ago.

Mostly volunteers. It's a great station (best in North Texas).

marym625

(17,997 posts)
2. Thank you for posting this, LOoniX
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 01:25 PM
Oct 2015

It's something that seems to be escaping even liberal sites.

This is some scary shit. I really hate all of this. And the M$M is most definitely a party to the systematic racism in this country.

#BlackLivesMatter

erronis

(15,803 posts)
13. More than a party to the racism - an instigator.
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 01:51 PM
Oct 2015

While we all know that most M$M is in the pockets of the RW crats, I don't really understand their long-term objectives.

If it is to rid the USofA of non-privileged or poor or other-hued - maybe I could understand. But even their little pods on the top of their spinal cords don't seem to be that simple.

The drumbeat goes on....

marym625

(17,997 posts)
65. the drum beat goes on..
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:31 AM
Oct 2015

It sure does.

Imho, it's all about control. The End goal being a government similar to old England that caused this country to be formed in the first place.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
57. I have always thought...
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 05:32 AM
Oct 2015

that the first step toward racial justice should be aimed at getting bigoted hate speech off our airwaves.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
66. I agree.
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:34 AM
Oct 2015

Fox and places like it should be banned. Minimally, it should not be allowed to call itself anything but entertainment, with a disclaimer constantly on the screen, or stated throughout on radio. Minimally

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
71. Hate speech is behind a lot of our problems including racism
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 01:15 PM
Oct 2015

and gun violence, etc.

One reason that they may not be getting this into MSM is to keep it quiet so this does not spread across the country. Back in the 60s a lot of the activism was blamed on news coverage.

We already know that after the murders in SC some black churches were burned and now these 6 in MO.

IMO the only way this will become national news is if someone is killed like in the church bombings in the 60s. Let us hope this does not get that far.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
10. Seems like they should post some guards.
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 01:42 PM
Oct 2015

I know of one black church in my area where they've formed a volunteer security detail. I met one of their members in a concealed carry class. It's a shame it should come to such, but the world is getting no saner.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
11. This does not come as a surprise to me. Many of us have
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 01:47 PM
Oct 2015

known for years that black leadership often comes out of the black churches.

What angers me is that the media hides it and other churches in the area do not stand by these black churches. The least they should help set up guards against this.

As usual I have no suggestion of what can be done beyond the ongoing investigation.

Obviously it won't help to call in the local police.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
72. Could be someone thinking it would impress the Klan so they could join....
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 01:17 PM
Oct 2015

Of course the Freepers are no doubt going to scream "false flag". They'll claim the churches were burned down for sympathy (and a ton of donations).

MuseRider

(34,209 posts)
16. Thank you for posting this.
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 02:18 PM
Oct 2015

I had not heard a thing about it, I guess I am not alone. This is a national shame, or should be but these days you have to wonder how many people even feel shame. Oh this is just so very sad. How can we even make steps to change this if nobody hears about it? Oh yeah, that IS the point.

Back to the days of my childhood. I was so happy when this kind of crap was countered and slowed down...apparently it was not as corrected as many of us thought. Of course, my childhood was the horror knowing this was done, never the horror of having it done to me.

 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
20. Did you notice . . .
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 02:30 PM
Oct 2015

Did anyone else notice how the "Oathkeepers" rushed to Ferguson to protect business, however, they remain silent in the face of this arson.

mountain grammy

(26,776 posts)
22. And the terrorism against black American citizens continues..
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 02:44 PM
Oct 2015

and it is terrorism and should be reported as such.. one fire is local news, 2 fires regional, more than that, we need national news coverage of this. Where is the fucking media? No ratings in church fires?

justhanginon

(3,295 posts)
27. These fires have been extensively covered on the local newscasts usually the lead story
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 02:49 PM
Oct 2015

over all the newscasts of the day. The first four fires in terms of damage to the buildings were not large as reportedly just trash set on fire at the front doors which may account for a lack of national coverage. The last one seems to have been the only one to cause significant damage to the building.

Arson investigators probe fires at front doors of four St. Louis ...
www.stltoday.com › News › Local › Law & Order
St. Louis Post‑Dispatch
4 days ago - Federal and local authorities are investigating a spate of small fires that were set at the front doors of four area churches within the last week.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
30. As said elsewhere, had these been white churches we'd be hearing all about "War on Christianity" nt
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 03:08 PM
Oct 2015

pediatricmedic

(397 posts)
34. I would say it is a community member doing this
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 03:40 PM
Oct 2015

Given the locations, I would say it is somebody local and they live within walking distance of all the churches.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
36. It's high time they catch some of these arsonists. Why do they always get away?
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 03:59 PM
Oct 2015

Right wing criminals always get away with their crimes. This is bullshit!

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
38. From arcane1's FB page:
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 04:42 PM
Oct 2015

Speculation: if these congregations had been predominantly white, it would be all over the news under the headline "War on Christianity."

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
50. The media is afraid to for fear it'll stir em up to kill whitey all over the country....
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 04:01 AM
Oct 2015

Didn't you know that?

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
54. too busy with bunny ranch stories... alas
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 05:19 AM
Oct 2015

but if someone at the church happens to know a Kardashian, I'm sure they'll send a news crew

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
63. On NPR this morning
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 09:23 AM
Oct 2015

They said that the cops, ATF and FD were concerned that the arsonist was under a great deal of stress and that this was a cry for help...

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
73. No cops or racist...I meant, uh, crazed gunmen burned down those churches
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 01:43 PM
Oct 2015

so it doesn't make the news. According to them we don't have a racism issue in America.

MasonDreams

(756 posts)
74. Do not undermisguesstimate the power of Hate. Give $ and support to Morris Dees & SPLC
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 02:53 PM
Oct 2015

That's the Southern Poverty Law Center. Fearless and bold, the lawyers and staff of the SPLC have taken on Hate groups nationwide and

Won big! Church Arson isn't new, and they "happen" all over the south, after the people of this nation, & the Law denounce racism.

This shit is Real, and its Real Bad, and it Begs to be Acknowledged an Addressed. I was born an raised in Bama/Tenn. and I'm soooo

angry when I must read about this shit and cannot read about the perps being brought to Justice, over and over, yr. after yr.

I don't want to be ashamed of bein' White from the South and Male. I don''t want to feel as if I need to say, "My family tree doesn't

include slave owners" But it don't, and I feel I need to say it. One more thing, the KKK and a bunch of those other "Master Racist"

Sick people groups claim to be Christian, and they're burning Christian Churches OMG WTF !!! The yr. is 2015 not 1520!!! EVOLVE!!!

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