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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums5 Black Churches in the Ferguson Area Have Burned Since Last Week, Media Shrugs
In the last 10 days, five black churches have been set on fire in the St. Louis area. And unlike the last wave of black church fires this summer in which weather played a role in some of the fires, these all appear to be the work of arsonists. The lack of media coverage about these fires is highly-noticeable, given the medias hyper-intensive coverage of rioters in Baltimore setting fire to a CVS earlier this year.
It is arson, St. Louis Fire Department captain Garon Mosby told Fox 2 Saint Louis. These are being intentionally set.
This most recent wave of church fires are taking place in North St. Louis, near Ferguson, where racial tensions have been particularly high since the August 2014 shooting of Michael Brown. The department of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms is investigating the arsons.
On October 8th, the first fire was set at the Bethel Non-Denominational Church. Between October 10th and October 14th, three more churches were burned New Northside Missionary Baptist Church, St. Augustine Catholic Church, and the New Testament Church of Christ. In the early hours of Saturday morning, another fire was set at the New Life Missionary Baptist Church. All 5 churches are within three miles of each other.
more at link
http://usuncut.com/black-lives-matter/black-churches-burning-ferguson-area/
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RKP5637
(67,112 posts)this, but it seems it conflicts with their agenda for some reason.
malaise
(270,647 posts)with racism at home.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)There are millions upon millions of people in this country hurting for many reasons, and M$M often just ignores them.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)We know what the MSM wants.
Eleanors38
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That's pretty common knowledge.
randys1
(16,286 posts)the press coverage
Come on folks, who is surprised?
Who remembers the back after back stories of the two white women who were murdered a few years back?
One was in DC and thought to have been killed, maybe, by a congressman (wasn't him) and the other was the pretty white wife in California who ended up in a river or bay somewhere, that one was on the news everyday for a year.
White people matter, Black people dont, period. I mean come on and get with it, folks
C Moon
(12,252 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)was first elected and they were after him, so, he says, something like is there still racism in America? I was like DUH, where have you been Chris?
They keep buying up all the media in the US. It's like a Joseph Goebbels takeover of US media. I still think many Americans are clueless. They come home tired from work, flip on the TV/radio, hear the information or lack of from M$M, and many think they are now well informed as to what's going on.
I have a friend that started spouting RW stuff, for example, and I asked, where the F are your getting that from. Turns out he was doing a lot of cross-country driving and often the only thing he could get on the radio in many areas was creepy Rush Limbaugh. This was way back, so I gathered up a bunch of cassette tapes and CDs with great music and told him here, listen to this instead, you'll be better informed.
He got the idea and realized he was being brainwashed. And he's just one of I bet millions that get sucked into misleading information and/or the deliberate omission of information by M$M.
47of74
(18,470 posts)I did a lot of driving for work and I'd rather not listen to hate radio.
LiberalArkie
(15,765 posts)God I am so tired of this crap. Being raised in south Arkansas 15 miles from the Louisiana border. It wasn't this bad back in the 50's and 60's.. We had the prevalent Jim Crow racism, but all the killings and burnings that is happening now outside of the deep south is damn strange.
I do hear all the time up here in central Arkansas from people I would not think as racist the phrase "You have to get yourself a gun when the (insert racial word here) start rioting". That seems to be the prevailing reason the "sane" people give for buying new guns. Are there organizations out there who really believe that they can provoke massive rioting?
Just what in the hell is going on?
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)all of it. They keep pumping people up into a panic mode. It's disgusting.
LiberalArkie
(15,765 posts)I listened to Little Rock community radio station that was started by ACORN. They carry Jim Hightower and others, so I am getting the good brain washing there. I even feel cleaner ;>
RKP5637
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LiberalArkie
(15,765 posts)100,000 watts started by ACORN, they are kind what Pacifica used to be.
Here is their about page http://www.kabf.org/?page_id=170
RKP5637
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RKP5637
(67,112 posts)internet radio, put the call letters in and saved it to my favorites. Sounds great! Great music and great people!
LiberalArkie
(15,765 posts)an entirely different type of music a lot of the time. They do a heck of a lot of jazz and a lot of good talk shows at different times.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Radio, nowhere near a left station. The one in town is in love with Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and anything right of right they can find. I'll do some donations too!
LiberalArkie
(15,765 posts)It was a circuit judge in Little Rock that allowed gay marriage and started the ball rolling. I accidentally found it a couple of years ago and now I never change it. I have not listened to NPR really since then. They don't seem to do much national news (I guess it just cost too much). But they have a really big coverage area compared to the Big Boys in the area.
KABF (88.3 FM) is a community radio station in Little Rock, Arkansas, USA. Its nickname is "The Voice of the People" which refers to its populist official mission: to serve middle- and lower-income Arkansans. It broadcasts at 88.3 FM and is an organ of the Arkansas Broadcasting Foundation (hence the call letters ABF).
KABF is non-corporate and non-commercial. KABF's format is music and talk, with diverse programming. The station went on the air on August 31, 1984. KABF broadcasts at 91,000 watts, and its primary coverage radius is 60 miles. The station is affiliated with the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now and shares a building with ACORN's headquarters at 2101 South Main Street in Little Rock. Like all public broadcasting, KABF relies on listener contributions for a large part of its operating budget.
Its sister station is KNON in Dallas, Texas.
RKP5637
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Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)Thanks for the link
LiberalArkie
(15,765 posts)malokvale77
(4,879 posts)KNON 89.3. Probably the same format since it was started by ACORN decades ago.
Mostly volunteers. It's a great station (best in North Texas).
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)It's something that seems to be escaping even liberal sites.
This is some scary shit. I really hate all of this. And the M$M is most definitely a party to the systematic racism in this country.
#BlackLivesMatter
erronis
(15,803 posts)While we all know that most M$M is in the pockets of the RW crats, I don't really understand their long-term objectives.
If it is to rid the USofA of non-privileged or poor or other-hued - maybe I could understand. But even their little pods on the top of their spinal cords don't seem to be that simple.
The drumbeat goes on....
marym625
(17,997 posts)It sure does.
Imho, it's all about control. The End goal being a government similar to old England that caused this country to be formed in the first place.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)that the first step toward racial justice should be aimed at getting bigoted hate speech off our airwaves.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Fox and places like it should be banned. Minimally, it should not be allowed to call itself anything but entertainment, with a disclaimer constantly on the screen, or stated throughout on radio. Minimally
jwirr
(39,215 posts)and gun violence, etc.
One reason that they may not be getting this into MSM is to keep it quiet so this does not spread across the country. Back in the 60s a lot of the activism was blamed on news coverage.
We already know that after the murders in SC some black churches were burned and now these 6 in MO.
IMO the only way this will become national news is if someone is killed like in the church bombings in the 60s. Let us hope this does not get that far.
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)cowards slinking in the shadows
Faux pas
(14,785 posts)domestic terrorism is no big deal to those who should care.
dembotoz
(16,896 posts)think
(11,641 posts)JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)Just anger
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)I know of one black church in my area where they've formed a volunteer security detail. I met one of their members in a concealed carry class. It's a shame it should come to such, but the world is getting no saner.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)"Black Militants Use Church for Training Camp"
jwirr
(39,215 posts)known for years that black leadership often comes out of the black churches.
What angers me is that the media hides it and other churches in the area do not stand by these black churches. The least they should help set up guards against this.
As usual I have no suggestion of what can be done beyond the ongoing investigation.
Obviously it won't help to call in the local police.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)kind. But they could also be one bigot.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Of course the Freepers are no doubt going to scream "false flag". They'll claim the churches were burned down for sympathy (and a ton of donations).
Quackers
(2,256 posts)jalan48
(13,984 posts)MuseRider
(34,209 posts)I had not heard a thing about it, I guess I am not alone. This is a national shame, or should be but these days you have to wonder how many people even feel shame. Oh this is just so very sad. How can we even make steps to change this if nobody hears about it? Oh yeah, that IS the point.
Back to the days of my childhood. I was so happy when this kind of crap was countered and slowed down...apparently it was not as corrected as many of us thought. Of course, my childhood was the horror knowing this was done, never the horror of having it done to me.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)OldRedneck
(1,397 posts)Did anyone else notice how the "Oathkeepers" rushed to Ferguson to protect business, however, they remain silent in the face of this arson.
mountain grammy
(26,776 posts)and it is terrorism and should be reported as such.. one fire is local news, 2 fires regional, more than that, we need national news coverage of this. Where is the fucking media? No ratings in church fires?
Photographer
(1,142 posts)WillyT
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justhanginon
(3,295 posts)over all the newscasts of the day. The first four fires in terms of damage to the buildings were not large as reportedly just trash set on fire at the front doors which may account for a lack of national coverage. The last one seems to have been the only one to cause significant damage to the building.
Arson investigators probe fires at front doors of four St. Louis ...
www.stltoday.com News Local Law & Order
St. Louis Post‑Dispatch
4 days ago - Federal and local authorities are investigating a spate of small fires that were set at the front doors of four area churches within the last week.
840high
(17,196 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)BeanMusical
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WHEN CRABS ROAR
(3,813 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)pediatricmedic
(397 posts)Given the locations, I would say it is somebody local and they live within walking distance of all the churches.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Right wing criminals always get away with their crimes. This is bullshit!
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Speculation: if these congregations had been predominantly white, it would be all over the news under the headline "War on Christianity."
KeepItReal
(7,769 posts)And captures these bastards
malaise
(270,647 posts)but it's just black people's churches
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Get your priorities straight.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Didn't you know that?
JustAnotherGen
(32,296 posts)Let's wait and see what they come up with.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)according to local TV news.
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)but if someone at the church happens to know a Kardashian, I'm sure they'll send a news crew
Scuba
(53,475 posts)yardwork
(62,036 posts)lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)MynameisBlarney
(2,979 posts)They said that the cops, ATF and FD were concerned that the arsonist was under a great deal of stress and that this was a cry for help...
pintobean
(18,101 posts)d_legendary1
(2,586 posts)so it doesn't make the news. According to them we don't have a racism issue in America.
MasonDreams
(756 posts)That's the Southern Poverty Law Center. Fearless and bold, the lawyers and staff of the SPLC have taken on Hate groups nationwide and
Won big! Church Arson isn't new, and they "happen" all over the south, after the people of this nation, & the Law denounce racism.
This shit is Real, and its Real Bad, and it Begs to be Acknowledged an Addressed. I was born an raised in Bama/Tenn. and I'm soooo
angry when I must read about this shit and cannot read about the perps being brought to Justice, over and over, yr. after yr.
I don't want to be ashamed of bein' White from the South and Male. I don''t want to feel as if I need to say, "My family tree doesn't
include slave owners" But it don't, and I feel I need to say it. One more thing, the KKK and a bunch of those other "Master Racist"
Sick people groups claim to be Christian, and they're burning Christian Churches OMG WTF !!! The yr. is 2015 not 1520!!! EVOLVE!!!