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Mission impenetrable: are Hollywood blockbusters losing the plot?
From Fast & Furious to the Avengers, Terminator and Jurassic World, the trend for ridiculously over-complicated storylining is out of control this year. Is it time for a purge?
(Guardian UK) Forty-five minutes into the seventh Fast & Furious movie, Vin Diesel drives towards a huge precipice. The audience have only the faintest idea why hes there. Ditto why they have paraglided their cars into Azerbaijan. Is it Azerbaijan? Its probably to rescue someone who was it again? Something to do with a surveillance gizmo means they need to find their nemesis Jason Statham, except Statham seems to find them whenever he wants, being the one about to push Diesel off the cliff, not the random mercenaries theyre nicking the device from. Only Kurt Russell whos watching everything from his covert-ops unit and chatting about craft ale seems to understand what the hell is going on.
What was once a series content to celebrate simple boy-racer pleasures, the seventh Fast & Furious fell prey to a recent tentpole-film affliction: ridiculously over-complicated plotting. Iron Man 3 and Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation writer Drew Pearce draws an analogy for this blockbuster bloat, responsible for routinely pushing run times over the two-hour mark: Much as I love a prog-rock album, if its a pop song I like it to be short and sweet, and I think it has more impact that way. And summer blockbusters are very proggy right now.
This byzantine plot sprawl has been in full effect this year. Avengers: Age of Ultron lost many round about the point the villain heads off to a South African shipyard in search of something called Wakandan vibranium. Promoting the film, writer-director Joss Whedon acknowledged that keeping all the narrative plates spinning for his six-man superhero team, plus all the side players, had left him a little bit broken. Terminator Genisys director Alan Taylor, faced with the collective eh? over his recent convoluted overhaul of the Schwarzenegger classic, made a spirited attempt in interviews to break down the films supposed seven interweaving timelines. But if his film had worked, he wouldnt have needed to.
Pacific Rim screenwriter Travis Beacham says he first noticed this pet peeve with the advent of the Marvel films: Its a very literal complexity, its not an emotional complexity. Its very point A to point B, we have to get the talisman to stop Dr Whatever from raising an army. Very pragmatic stuff that doesnt leave a lot of room for character. He compares Jurassic World to the original Jurassic Park: In the first film, theres only a handful of major sequences: the T-rex attack in the rain, the velociraptors in the kitchen. But because there are so few, you can really spend some time with them, and let them unfold. The latest one is this wall-to-wall sequence of events, and theres not a lot of suspense.
What happened to the industry in the intervening 20 years? In the rush to give restless, spoilt-for-choice modern viewers value for money, the studios are making their blockbusters in an ever more feverish climate. The past decade has seen, in the struggle for prime spots on the movie-going calendar, the rise of release dates locked in years in advance. In order to hit those targets, production schedules have little room for deviation; finished scripts often lag behind the key special-effects sequences, which are devised early so mockups around which actors can be directed are ready when shooting starts. Screenwriters, says Pearce, are often left to link the showpieces as best as they can. ..................(more)
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/jul/30/hollywood-blockbusters-lost-plot-avengers-terminator
Orrex
(63,210 posts)It makes it harder to watch the exciting parts of the film via 6-minute YouTube clips. You can watch the T. Rex-in-the-Rain and the Velociraptors-in-the-Kitchen whenever you want, but you can't do that as readily if it's constant action from credits to credits, interspersed with product placement.
displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)It actually made sense! The first time I saw the studio version, the time travel plot made no sense at all. The rogue edit version chopped out tons of useless time travel reasoning dialogue and out-of-sequence past/present scenes. Much more enjoyable!
As for the new Jurassic Park film, I wanted my money back!
Galileo126
(2,016 posts)(The Matrix) - everything else seems to be a remake of disastrous proportions.
And, as such, I haven't been to a movie theater since then.
Keep trying, Hollywood... when you get it right, I'll buy the $10 popcorn again.
<shrugs>
Logical
(22,457 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)I mean, no one goes to see them.
And the most recent Fast/Furious film obviously limited itself to a small group of cineastes.
Let's not forget the critical and commercial failures that were the Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings franchises.
Logical
(22,457 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)as the defender of cinema.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)The combination of a release date set in stone and the advent of CGI has screwed movies.
Many classics, like THE GODFATHER, were found in the editing room. Now, there is no time.
And CGI has become the lazy way to make fx.
It's sad and that's why I watch mostly docs, foreign films, and independent movies.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)However, it does mean it can be shopped overseas in any language market.
You don't need to translate explosions.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)I can't help but think with services like Hulu, Amazon and NetFlix they would find the distribution needed to make them marketable.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)akin to reading War and Peace with its four sequels. They want to do what good television does, tell a really long story.
The same process has happened in fiction novels with endless sequels.
Think about Harry Potter, and incredibly long story told in installments that kept audiences returning to find out what happened to beloved characters. Harry's Character arc runs from "The Sorcerer's Stone to the Deathly Hollows. Each installment was complete in itself, but story lines, plot, and character's grew across the length of the whole story.
They did this and made so much money that that it lead to a theme park, endless lines of toys, and another series of movies written by the same author.
I suppose the answer ot all of that is, "Money." A successful franchise reduces the risk of makaing these mammoth movies by appealing to a guaranteed audience instead of looking for a new one. As long as huge audiences show up to see the new installment, the story will go on.
olddots
(10,237 posts)over a hundred yeats .We get educated and jaded because what impacts us at first we asume is traumatic .
That and movies are reallly sucky .Who wants to see rehashes for 3 times the price of the original ?
Seems like we need some time off if the " producers are feeding us the same shit with our relclining seats and 700 percent marked up sugar and salt .
villager
(26,001 posts)That's the problem. Great 70's films referenced in this thread had emotional complexity, and that's what's missing now.
On the other hand, my favorite film of the summer, the latest Mad Max, is one long action sequence -- but it's right to the point. And manages its emotional moments along the way.
My other favorite film of the summer is a German movie called Phoenix. A "post-Holocaust" character study. Bare bones simple plot. Emotional layers peeling off the screen in its final scene....
msongs
(67,405 posts)hey, hollywood cranks out what the lowest denominator will pay for
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)I like movies where people talk to each other and relationships unfold. Of course, those are derisively referred to as "chick flicks."
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)Most films I see nowadays have such convoluted storylines, with various threads some that never resolve that it takes a lot of the enjoyment out of watching for me. I much prefer to see zero special effects or CGI but to have a great dramatic story. For me, it's all in the story and the characters who carry it out. I'm used to a straight ahead clear narrative that builds. In the 1980s I was accepted in the highly competitive screenwriter's track program at UCLA film school and that's how they taught screenwriting. One of the bibles in the program was Lajos Egri's old book The Art Of Dramatic Writing. Thankfully for me, there are lots and lots of old films (some of which I can watch again and again) that for me are on average much, much better than the blockbuster of today. That's not to say that every new movie is bad, but for me it's the vast majority that I find almost unwatchable.