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Tue Jul 28, 2015, 11:26 AM

‘The video is not good': Cincinnati braces for footage release in campus cop killing of Sam Dubose


An Ohio prosecutor is refusing to release body camera video from the fatal police shooting of an unarmed black man during a traffic stop — but top officials are suggesting that the video disputes the campus police officer’s claims of self-defense.

Officer Ray Tensing, of the University of Cincinnati police department, shot and killed 43-year-old Sam Dubose during a routine traffic stop July 19 near campus.

Tensing stopped Dubose about 6:30 p.m. because he did not have a license plate on the front of his car, in apparent violation of Ohio law, about a half-mile from campus in Cincinnati’s historic Mount Auburn neighborhood.

The officer claims Dubose would not show his driver’s license and instead produced a bottle of alcohol and refused to get out of his vehicle. .....................(more)

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/the-video-is-not-good-cincinnati-braces-for-footage-release-in-campus-cop-killing-of-sam-dubose/




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Reply ‘The video is not good': Cincinnati braces for footage release in campus cop killing of Sam Dubose (Original post)
marmar Jul 2015 OP
LoisB Jul 2015 #1
Igel Jul 2015 #2
spanone Jul 2015 #5
GitRDun Jul 2015 #3
GoneFishin Jul 2015 #6
Doctor_J Jul 2015 #8
GoneFishin Jul 2015 #12
brush Jul 2015 #9
GitRDun Jul 2015 #10
brush Jul 2015 #11
damnedifIknow Jul 2015 #4
Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #7
Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #13

Response to marmar (Original post)

Tue Jul 28, 2015, 11:49 AM

1. Do campus police have the right to make traffic stops off campus?

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Response to LoisB (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 28, 2015, 11:54 AM

2. It varies.

In some states they have jurisdiction over students or over incidents that cross jurisdictions and start on campus. In some, "near campus" is okay, because often you can't tell what's going to affect campus.

In some states they're full-fledged police officers and can make arrests and carry guns. In other states, they're beefed up security patrols.

In Texas, public school district police are full police. They routinely block streets to allow school buses to run or to manage before and after school traffic congestion.

Google for this particular state and school.

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Response to LoisB (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 28, 2015, 11:59 AM

5. here in tennessee vanderbilt police have the same 'privileges' as the metro police

i investigated when they gave a friend a DUI off campus.

my friend was sitting in his car in a parking lot.

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Tue Jul 28, 2015, 11:57 AM

3. I was mortified by the prosecutor's actions until I read the article.

He wants to present the video to a grand jury first.

I think that's OK.

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Response to GitRDun (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 28, 2015, 12:22 PM

6. In principle yes, but this will block scrutiny by the public and objective analysts, which

opens up the possibility of gross tampering as happened with the Sandra Bland video.

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Response to GoneFishin (Reply #6)

Tue Jul 28, 2015, 01:20 PM

8. with all due respect, the public is not "objective analysts"

 

Releasing this to the public before he grand jury would be a major mistake.

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #8)

Tue Jul 28, 2015, 07:32 PM

12. Not what I said. There are objective and qualified analysts among the public, the fact that

the vast majority of the public are not qualified is beside the point.

Allowing the DA to present a one-sided case as with the Ferguson farce is not ideal either, nor is it likely to result in justice. The trend is blatantly obvious. If the DA is allowed to quietly sweep it under the rug then he/she will do exactly that.

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Response to GitRDun (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 28, 2015, 01:26 PM

9. Prosecutors have much latitude in what they present to a grand jury

You do understand that in Ferguson and Staten Island a "no bill" result came from the prosecutors shaping the info they presented to the grand jury?

Grand juries can be manipulated into "indicting a ham sandwich, as the old saying goes", or not indicting a killer cop.

In this case the prosecutor doesn't even have to present the video to the grand jury.

And you say you're ok with that.

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Response to brush (Reply #9)

Tue Jul 28, 2015, 01:41 PM

10. NO

What I said (or meant to say) was I am OK with releasing the tape after the grand jury sees it.

I understand what prosecutors can do.

In my read of the article, the prosecutor seems to be implying he wants a grand jury to see it first.

If he turns out to be one of those jerks looking to cover up a policeman's crime, e.g., hides it from the grand jury, I will be outraged.

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Response to GitRDun (Reply #10)

Tue Jul 28, 2015, 01:56 PM

11. Great. We're on the same page. nt

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Tue Jul 28, 2015, 11:58 AM

4. What can a person say anymore?

It was not a good situation,” said City Manager Harry Black. “Someone has died that didn’t necessarily have to die, and I will leave it at that.”

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Tue Jul 28, 2015, 12:49 PM

7. I posted about this two days ago. Nobody replied. I thought that was strange.

 

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Tue Jul 28, 2015, 07:37 PM

13. k&r

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