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question everything

(47,474 posts)
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 12:54 PM Jun 2015

Amending the Constitution

So Cruz and Walker want to amend the Constitution to leave marriage to the states.

Let's see: amending requires two thirds of the states to affirm. Assuming it gets two thirds in both the House and the Senate.

By my calculations that's 33 states. Until the Supreme Court decision, same sex marriage was legal in 37 states and in D.C., so how can they possibly think they can get 33 states to approve the amendment?

Well, at least they can get 10 extra votes in Iowa..

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Amending the Constitution (Original Post) question everything Jun 2015 OP
actually 3/4ths of the states to affirm virtualobserver Jun 2015 #1
Thank you. Even better (nt) question everything Jun 2015 #3
We'll never see the constitution changed again in our lifetime madville Jun 2015 #2
Correct. I don't remember when was the last time it was question everything Jun 2015 #4
1992 maybe madville Jun 2015 #7
A Congressional pay raise only applies to the subsequently-elected Congress, not a current one. nt BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #13
What about constitution convention the GOP is pushing for all of 2017. CK_John Jun 2015 #5
That's pretty much the worst idea ever. Initech Jun 2015 #10
Same with laws Yupster Jun 2015 #12
You are assuming that in all 37 states where it was legal the people supported that. former9thward Jun 2015 #6
The 2nd amendment won't be removed either madville Jun 2015 #8
Playing Devil's Advocate... brooklynite Jun 2015 #9
They could also hold the opinion that Yupster Jun 2015 #11

question everything

(47,474 posts)
4. Correct. I don't remember when was the last time it was
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 01:16 PM
Jun 2015

I know that ERA was stalled, was short by two states, I think. And I think that there are few more that never made it.

madville

(7,408 posts)
7. 1992 maybe
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 01:32 PM
Jun 2015

The 27th amendment, had something to do with Congress pay and I just remember it because it took over 200 years for the ratification process to be completed.

Initech

(100,068 posts)
10. That's pretty much the worst idea ever.
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 01:48 PM
Jun 2015

I don't believe in going to war, but preventing the corporatists and religious radicals from completely overhauling our Constitution is something that I would go to war to prevent from happening. There is absolutely no good that can come from that. None. Our Constitution isn't perfect but it's the best that we have.

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
12. Same with laws
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 02:00 PM
Jun 2015

The Constitution will change, but not by amendment, just by continual interpretation.

Same way today congress passes few laws. Laws are changed more by regulatory agencies today.

former9thward

(31,987 posts)
6. You are assuming that in all 37 states where it was legal the people supported that.
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 01:21 PM
Jun 2015

In almost all of those states it was made legal by judicial rulings -- not votes by either the legislature or people. So in theory an amendment could get passed by the required 37 states.

That said, it is just hot air. This issue has come and is now gone. There have been calls for 40 years to do an amendment to overturn Row v Wade. It has never happened.

madville

(7,408 posts)
8. The 2nd amendment won't be removed either
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 01:38 PM
Jun 2015

We'll see Supreme Court rulings affect the 2nd Amendment long before it may ever be changed in the Constitution.

brooklynite

(94,513 posts)
9. Playing Devil's Advocate...
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 01:40 PM
Jun 2015

...relatively few of the States that previously recognized marriage equality did so based on legislative activity or popular referenda, so arguably, they might be happy to support a Constitutional Amendment in support of their prior position.

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
11. They could also hold the opinion that
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 01:59 PM
Jun 2015

we want gay marriage in our state but we don't care what other states do. That's up to them.

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