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ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 05:04 PM Jun 2015

Cops Bought Charleston Suspect Burger King After Arresting Him



Police in Shelby, North Carolina bought a Burger King meal for the white man who allegedly killed nine people at a historic black church in Charleston, South Carolina after they arrested him Thursday, The Charlotte Observer reported.

Shelby Police Chief Jeff Ledford told the newspaper that the only conversation his officers had with 21-year-old Dylann Roof was about food. The alleged gunman told them that he was hungry after eating nothing but some chips he'd bought at a Charlotte gas station before he was arrested in a traffic stop.

"He was very quiet, very calm. He didn’t talk,” Ledford said, as quoted by The Observer. “He sat down here very quietly. He was not problematic.”

Ledford also confirmed to Yahoo! News that police officers bought a hamburger for their infamous detainee.


READ MORE: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/dylann-roof-burger-king-arrest

WTF?
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Cops Bought Charleston Suspect Burger King After Arresting Him (Original Post) ghostsinthemachine Jun 2015 OP
So what? They have to feed the guy. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2015 #1
I'm sorry, but why didn't he eat before he went on his rampage? One has to wonder if this is.... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2015 #4
It's not unusual. Sometimes the cops will get fast food for someone they've arrested The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2015 #6
Oh please, that NEVER HAPPENS ghostsinthemachine Jun 2015 #5
It does happen. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2015 #7
Happened to you? Can you prove that statement? If he was Black he would have been shot randys1 Jun 2015 #26
I've never been in jail or arrested. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2015 #28
He wasn't in jail Egnever Jun 2015 #11
It happens all the time theycallmetrinity Jun 2015 #24
and if he'd been black? angryvet Jun 2015 #12
That's quite possible. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2015 #17
Police Brutality! brucefan Jun 2015 #2
Win! johnp3907 Jun 2015 #21
Have it your way. kwassa Jun 2015 #3
All Burger Kings food is suspect. SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #8
Not as unusual as you think in small towns nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #9
I don't have a problem with them feeding him. Egnever Jun 2015 #10
You really think a beat cop in general is aware of that? nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #14
Of course not Egnever Jun 2015 #16
But I am willing to bet nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #18
What kind of nonsense reply is that? Egnever Jun 2015 #19
And I told you that those who make the decisions on how your tax dollars are spent nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #20
LOL Egnever Jun 2015 #22
Have a good day nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #23
Already posted Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #13
Watch First 48 on A & E Kingofalldems Jun 2015 #15
OMG, no Gitmo and all the humanity but just five short ... seveneyes Jun 2015 #25
I've seen cops drop off dozens of bags of Taco Bell Cal Carpenter Jun 2015 #27
I have seen cops buy a bunch of salads from a pizza house because many of the women theycallmetrinity Jun 2015 #29
When I worked with juvenile offenders... NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #32
Been there, done that, got the T-shirt. KamaAina Jun 2015 #30
It might have been the best option available at the time. NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #31
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2015 #33

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,692 posts)
1. So what? They have to feed the guy.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 05:09 PM
Jun 2015

There's all sorts of outrage about this, but last I heard we didn't starve prisoners, however reprehensible the charges against them might be. I would be a bit annoyed if they'd taken him to a four star restaurant and served him chateaubriand, but I'm not about to get my panties in a wad over giving him a greasy burger.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
4. I'm sorry, but why didn't he eat before he went on his rampage? One has to wonder if this is....
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 05:16 PM
Jun 2015

SOP, or was this a special favor for this kid. The Charleston police are embroiled in a wrongful death, and I hope this wasn't their version of a high five for the shooter. Otherwise, I have no problem with it either.

I have much more of a problem with the Judge who tried to paint Roof's family as victims, even before the dead are buried.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,692 posts)
6. It's not unusual. Sometimes the cops will get fast food for someone they've arrested
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 05:20 PM
Jun 2015

because it's easy, fast and cheap, and because it sometimes helps get their cooperation (the good cop part of the good cop-bad cop routine). I very much doubt they were doing it as a special favor to him.

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
5. Oh please, that NEVER HAPPENS
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 05:17 PM
Jun 2015

Ever. I've been in jail a plenty of times and you wait for your food like every other person. This is exceptional treatment here.....

randys1

(16,286 posts)
26. Happened to you? Can you prove that statement? If he was Black he would have been shot
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 06:26 PM
Jun 2015

dead the instant he pulled over.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,692 posts)
28. I've never been in jail or arrested.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 06:33 PM
Jun 2015

But for an answer to your question: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6882855

And while it may be true that if he'd been black he probably would have been shot or at least tased, that doesn't mean the cops shouldn't have fed him, or that he should also have been shot or tased or otherwise abused. Nobody should be abused in the course of an arrest, not even this asshole. I do think the fact that this dirtbag was given a $5 fast food meal is not worthy of all this outrage. He'll be eating prison meals for the rest of his life.

 
24. It happens all the time
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 06:18 PM
Jun 2015

They never cared about what you did .

You were probably a petty criminal .
They arrest a high profile case like this they will not only buy fast food the cops will order
a pizza and have it delivered if he or she is talking.

angryvet

(181 posts)
12. and if he'd been black?
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 05:37 PM
Jun 2015

I sincerely doubt they would have fed him, no matter what his condition. In actuality he probably wouldn't have been alive. The double standard is appalling.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,692 posts)
17. That's quite possible.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 05:44 PM
Jun 2015

However, it doesn't mean there was anything terribly wrong with feeding Burger King crap to this guy. Of course, if he'd been black he probably wouldn't have been arrested for shooting black people in a black church.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
9. Not as unusual as you think in small towns
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 05:22 PM
Jun 2015

It has none to do with Roof, but processing and getting him to a jail that could handle him. He is a high profile detainee.

They have done this in my county when doing a transport from an area up to two hours away from the downtown jail.

The optics look horrible, but this is really not a big deal, and quite standard procedure.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
10. I don't have a problem with them feeding him.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 05:31 PM
Jun 2015

I do have a problem with choosing burger king.

And if the government reimburses that purchase i have a real problem with it.

BK is doing all it can to avoid paying US taxes. Our government should not be supporting this company with our tax dollars.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/11/us-usa-tax-burgerking-idUSKBN0JP0CI20141211


In one of the most notable of several corporate tax "inversion" deals this year, Florida-based Burger King announced in late August it would buy Tim Hortons and put the headquarters of the combined company in Canada.

U.S. companies doing inversions - which involve buying a foreign company and assuming its tax nationality to cut overall tax costs - have been blasted as tax dodgers by Democrats and liberal groups. President Barack Obama has criticized a "herd mentality" by companies seeking deals to escape U.S. taxes.


Feeding the kid is normal procedure when transferring prisoners using government funds to do it at a company doing all it can to avoid US taxes not so much.

I will never darken BK's door again because of this move.
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
14. You really think a beat cop in general is aware of that?
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 05:39 PM
Jun 2015

Serious.

Who pays taxes or not, is well not one of the priorities of a cop in the field, for the most part.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
16. Of course not
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 05:42 PM
Jun 2015

That has no bearing on if it should happen or not. Our tax payer dollars should not be going to corporations working overtime to avoid taxes period.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
18. But I am willing to bet
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 05:46 PM
Jun 2015

the BK is not owned by the corporation, but a licensee, most are not.

secondly, while on principle I agree, I am willing to bet that even the people back at HQ doing the reimbursement, or the government body that votes on the budget for the police department has no clue either.

So while it would make sense on an ideological level, you would do better in informing those who make policy about this. There is a lot that media does not mostly cover, or cover where your local city council member, or supervisor will read it.

And at times I doubt some can connect the dots either.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
19. What kind of nonsense reply is that?
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 05:51 PM
Jun 2015

I agree but you should be telling other people that?



I said in my original post I have no problem with them feeding him and then pointed out that I do have a problem with government dollars going to tax avoiders and so far all you are doing is making excuses as why that is just fine.

Maybe just maybe my pointing it out in this thread and others will get the issue more recognition. Probably not but your idea that I shouldn't bring it up because they just didn't know or that some guy is exempt because he is just a poor franchisee is just nonsense.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
20. And I told you that those who make the decisions on how your tax dollars are spent
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 05:55 PM
Jun 2015

likely have no clue what the corporate parent office does to avoid taxes.

Clear enough for you?

You want this policy to change? You need to educate those who approve how those taxes are spent. And even then, I do not guarantee success.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
22. LOL
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 06:12 PM
Jun 2015

More nonsense.

Do you really think you told me anything?

Obviously the beat cop has no impact on policy. Do you really walk around thinking people need stuff explained to them by you?

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
27. I've seen cops drop off dozens of bags of Taco Bell
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 06:27 PM
Jun 2015

for a large group arrest (around 400 people, anti-war direct action). Very different scenario, sure, but it took hours and hours to process everyone and they had to be fed.

It's not uncommon if it makes the most sense given the circumstances/timing/logistics of processing and moving an arrestee.

 
29. I have seen cops buy a bunch of salads from a pizza house because many of the women
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 06:39 PM
Jun 2015

said they were vegetarian at an anti abortion sit in after they were arrested .

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
32. When I worked with juvenile offenders...
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 07:44 PM
Jun 2015

they almost always got a coke and a snack of some sort if they promised to behave.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
31. It might have been the best option available at the time.
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 07:42 PM
Jun 2015

They had to feed the guy, after all. Maybe it was going to be hours before they could get him a jail meal and they had procedures to just get him a quick meal with as little fuss as possible. Maybe he was talking and they wanted to keep him going by acting friendly. Whatever the reason I would imagine the officers were following their department's procedures.

I seriously doubt a crappy Burger King meal was some sort of "high five" as some have suggested.

Don't worry - he's in for a lifetime of really shitty food. He'll be lucky to get toast with breakfast.

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