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ruffburr

(1,190 posts)
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 02:33 PM Jun 2015

My apologies to black america-

I just want to take a moment to say how sorry I am and offer my condolences to all who have died in Carolina, I find myself embarrassed and ashamed to be a white person in today's America, The ignorance of some of my kind has amazed even me , Guess what All people are just people how much pigment one has is irrelevant, lifestyle is ones own choice, Killing for some imagined long past time in history is just insanity! Once again my deepest condolences.

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My apologies to black america- (Original Post) ruffburr Jun 2015 OP
I agree... CherokeeDem Jun 2015 #1
Agreed mainstreetonce Jun 2015 #3
White people did not do this upaloopa Jun 2015 #2
i was gonna say the same thing. this white person doesnt represent white people Romeo.lima333 Jun 2015 #6
He doesn't even represent humans. tridim Jun 2015 #9
+1. The only "sides" are good and evil (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #12
thank you Skittles Jun 2015 #18
Tremendous shame and guilt here too...I agree randys1 Jun 2015 #4
I agree.... onecaliberal Jun 2015 #7
Fine feel guilty. It isn't going to make anything upaloopa Jun 2015 #16
Same here. pacalo Jun 2015 #5
And many apologies also to the Original Inhabitants of this continent Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author randys1 Jun 2015 #13
I agree madokie Jun 2015 #10
I didn't expect black people to apologize for the Beltway Snipers, Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #11
There was anther thread that essentially said all whites are to blame Snobblevitch Jun 2015 #14
White people should be expected to fight the mindset that allows such racism to go unchecked. bettyellen Jun 2015 #15
Word. nt bemildred Jun 2015 #17
Thank you for feeling guilty on behalf of a maniac. romanic Jun 2015 #19
So when did you choose to be a white person? FrodosPet Jun 2015 #20
Not hiding who I am. mstinamotorcity2 Jun 2015 #21
People suck. SixString Jun 2015 #22

tridim

(45,358 posts)
9. He doesn't even represent humans.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 03:54 PM
Jun 2015

Lots of people on the Internets today talking about both "sides", assuming the sides are black/white. That is absolute bullshit.

Skittles

(153,918 posts)
18. thank you
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 06:57 PM
Jun 2015

he does not represent white people any more than the DC shooters represented black people

randys1

(16,286 posts)
4. Tremendous shame and guilt here too...I agree
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 02:45 PM
Jun 2015

When a Black person does something wrong the entire Black community is held responsible.

so...


BTW my guilt is born from my knowledge that white privilege is the reason for these killings, and I enjoy white privilege daily

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
16. Fine feel guilty. It isn't going to make anything
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 05:53 PM
Jun 2015

better. Preventing those who would be potential killers from needing to feel guilty is what we should be about.
Being born White is nothing we had control over and being given privilege is nothing we could prevent. Feeling guilty does nothing for anyone. But using the privilege given you in a way that improves lives of others is a positive action.

Response to Dont call me Shirley (Reply #8)

madokie

(51,076 posts)
10. I agree
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 04:04 PM
Jun 2015

I'm sorry some of my white brothers and sisters are so ignorant of what it is they do. So ready to cause you harm as if you were an inanimate object. We all have feelings and we all feel the joy of love and the pain of hate. Why can't my white friends see this. its us who cause the most problem as you see there is way more of us than there are of you. Its us who pretty much controls everything in your lives whether we want to accept that truth or not, its true. I apologize realizing that my apology means nothing to the people who feel so much hate in their heart. To you, I hope you can accept from me to you, I am so sorry. If I could wake up and change the world I'd have already done it, I can't but I can continue to be on your side as together we go down the path called life arm in arm in a loving embrace.



Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
11. I didn't expect black people to apologize for the Beltway Snipers,
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 04:10 PM
Jun 2015

or Muslims to apologize for the Boston marathon bombers, and I don't think white people should be expected to apologize for this mass murderer. The vast majority of people of all races and religions are good, decent folks, and are not represented by the terrorist fringe.

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)
14. There was anther thread that essentially said all whites are to blame
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 04:21 PM
Jun 2015

for what the racist did at that church last night. I posed a question, when in fact I should have written a reply more like yours. My post was hidden and I've only been here three weeks.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
15. White people should be expected to fight the mindset that allows such racism to go unchecked.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 04:21 PM
Jun 2015

This quibbling over guilt shit is exactly as useful as blaming blacks for being victims - or blaming the poverty for this crap.

romanic

(2,841 posts)
19. Thank you for feeling guilty on behalf of a maniac.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 07:11 PM
Jun 2015

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Instead of apologizing for something that doesn't reflect who you are or e-pouting, you could do something tangible like joining a local NAACP chapter or perhaps discuss with relatives about this incident and how you can prevent younger people in your family to not end up like the gunman.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
20. So when did you choose to be a white person?
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 07:25 PM
Jun 2015

Nobody ever gave me a choice in the matter. I will freely apologize for my own bad choices, but I flat out refuse to A. apologize for things I have zero control over, and B. apologize for the actions, ideas, philosophies, etc of other individuals.

I feel terrible sadness for the people massacred by the racist piece of shit. But I feel zero personal guilt about my existence.

Meaningless white guilt is NOT an effective tool against racism. Indeed, it is just another symptom of white privilege.

mstinamotorcity2

(1,451 posts)
21. Not hiding who I am.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 08:03 PM
Jun 2015

There is no need for white people to apologize for him. And really when something like this happens Us folk don't want the fake outrage either. I will tell you why. Its been happening since Us folk got here. Yes Us folk recognize that all white people aren't racist. After all we had assistance from white people to erase some of the wrong doings that happened in this so called Great Country. This young gangsta thug who slaughtered black people is only a product of what is faced by a lot of Us folk on a Daily basis. Now if you don't feel the intensity when you walk in a room of your counters, you will never understand. If you have never been stopped with your girl and its just like that scene from the movie Crash, you will never know. If you have never had to walk 25 miles to work or catch five buses to a minimum wage job. You will never understand. If you have never had garbage thrown on you, at 16 years old, because your dad died and your mom got a great job, and decided to move her family into a bigger home in a better neighborhood, only 6 miles away, you will not understand. If at this day and time if you pull into a gas station off the highway in one of those sundown towns your lighter skin wife has to go in and announce you are pumping gas, while having credit card in hand. Or three minutes after you arrive 2 cars of the good old boys with the disco lights show up for a cup coffee. 2 officers inside gas station, the other two waiting on plate clearance. Nope you wouldn't understand. I don't expect you to. This is something you must carry everyday, and if you had to, It would have been over.

SixString

(1,057 posts)
22. People suck.
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 08:14 PM
Jun 2015

“Anybody who thinks there's nothing wrong with this world needs to have his head examined. Just when things are going all right, without fail someone or something will come along and spoil everything. Somebody should write that down as a fundamental law of the Universe. The principle of perpetual disappointment. If there is a God who created this world, he should scrap it and try again.”
― Athol Fugard, "Master Harold"...and the boys

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