Did Hillary come out against the TPP?

[kentuck]

I did not interpret her response as being against the trade treaty. She suggested that the President work with Nancy Pelosi to fix it or find something more fair.

In my opinion, she was being critical of President Obama for not being able to get the leaders of his own Party to go along with his plan. At the same time, she was laying the blame at the feet of Nancy Pelosi.

She was not necessarily against the trade treaty as much as she was against how the process was handled?

Just my interpretation.

[leftofcool]

1. Asked and answered a gadzillion times.

[cali]

9. Yes it has been. Hillary is on record, post State Dept as strongly supporting the TPP

Forced by the pressure to say something about it, she's been blowing smoke the past few days, using obfuscating language and cliches such as "making lemonade out of lemons". She is trying to have it both ways to placate two very different factions: The powerful, monied interests she is dependent on for the money to fund her campaign and who she has been allied with for so long, and a segment of the party base, strongly opposed to the TPP, whose votes she needs.

Regardless, her muddled criticism of the President and the way he's handling this, is actually helpful. He does not have her advocacy for an agreement he's poured every resource at his disposal, into getting. HRC has a strong influence on Congressional dems and had she been advocating for it, it's likely that she could have persuaded more dems to support passage of TAA/TPA and thus the TPP.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

2. There's a little text box at the top that says "Site Search". It's real easy to use.

https://www.google.com/search?q=hillary+tpp&sitesearch=democraticunderground.com&gws_rd=ssl

[marym625]

3. You are exactly right

She said zilch about the TPP. It was all about procedures and falling in line

[fredamae]

4. Listen

to what the candidates Don't say. Too often that is the Most important part in their Message(s) - They've mastered the "BS Boggie" when it comes to answering questions/addressing the real issues.

[99Forever]

5. She's committed to not committing.

Fence sitting taken to a science.

[pipoman]

6. She is not now, nor will she ever be "against the TPP"...

She is a corporatist, her entire career is based in corporatism....

[JaneyVee]

7. Yes, the current version.

[cali]

12. wait, you've been saying how wise she is for withholding judgment

until she knows what's in it, despite the evidence that she knew enough to endorse it in her book "Hard Choices". Now you're saying she's opposing the "current" version. That's more than a little contradictory. However, she actually didn't endorse or reject it. She just used obfuscating language that confused rather than clarified, and cliches about "making lemonade out of lemons", on the same day that 3 of her surrogates went on National TV to tell us that it's all too confusing for us voters to grasp and not really very important anyway.

[JaneyVee]

14. Yesterday she seemed to clarify.

"I have held my peace because I thought it was important for the Congress to have a full debate without thrusting presidential politics and candidates into it," she said at a campaign stop in Burlington, Iowa. "But now I think the president and his team could have the chance to drive a harder bargain.

Clinton said Obama should work with opponents like House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi, who led opposition to the trade package. If Obama does not get the best deal possible, "there should be no deal," Clinton said in Des Moines.
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So yes, like I said, she is wise to wait for final agreement before taking a position. That hasn't changed.

[jeff47]

16. So Clinton was not wise? Or did she not take a position? (nt)

[marmar]

8. No, she gave the expected exercise in triangulation.

[Marr]

10. Obama does NOT negotiate-- with the left.

Not that Nancy Pelosi is notably 'left', of course-- but apparently even a middle of the road Dem like her looks like a socialist spot on the horizon to our president.

But HRC's comments seem like just the old standard, 'I can make the two sides work together' line.

[L0oniX]

11. She'll let us know after her campaign coffers are filled.

[marble falls]

13. Which way is her donor wind blowing?

[madokie]

15. Who can know

She says and does so much controversial stuff where do you draw the line. I'm tired of listening to people trying to sell me something. Its like we're living at a circus not in a democracy where we have to work, play, live and let live, love and let love, move and get out of the way. At no time can we do any or all of these things from both sides. There is always a time and a place.
to answer your question No I did not interpret what she said as being against this. The lady has been all over this and its all been on the support side so I can't see she just turning and moving and if she does I don't even want to go any further. The last thing we need is a person we can't trust in the oval office. I don't feel I can trust here for a second let along for 4 and possibly 8 damn years. Lets get real, we have to start doing things differently or we're truly fucked.
The primaries are our most important elections this year. We have to make good decisions right here up front and center. I'll be voting for Bernie Sanders in the primary cause I truly believe he has the best chance of getting us where we want to go