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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums(As usual) Biggest beneficiaries of Dem in-fighting…Bush/Cheney's growing popularity.
Washington (AFP) - Former US President George W. Bush is now more popular than his successor Barack Obama, according to a CNN/ORC poll released Wednesday.
The survey said 52 percent of Americans polled have a favorable opinion of the former Republican president who was in office between 2001 and 2009, while 49 percent share a similar feeling about the man currently in the White House.
It took nearly a decade for Americans polled to warm towards Bush, who led the United States during the September 11, 2001 attacks and launched two wars in its aftermath.
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http://news.yahoo.com/george-w-bush-more-popular-obama-poll-142142004.html
Bushes pull this off every time
.they know the corporate media controlled by their cronies will fulfill their marching orders.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)blm
(113,061 posts)As a progressive liberal I am calling out the reality that exists.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Barack needs to quit fighting fellow Democrats. Duh!
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Most Democrats wanted bush charged with war crimes and Barack fought that idea.
blm
(113,061 posts)At all. Still
.Corpmedia is the beast to slay if this nation is ever going to truly move forward. I don't think even the most centrist of the Dems would lean towards some of their centrist positions except for the pressure corporate media puts on them like a boot on their necks.
When most every survey shows how left the public actually is in their positions, yet the corporate media will ONLY describe this nation as center-right, you know there is malice aforethought involved.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)Who owns the MSM? Even the right has distanced themselves from those two losers. Where's Palin? Why is their lineup for the presidential election such a joke?
I don't buy it.
If it is true I agree with the previous posters as to the reasons. Obama and the neoliberal's are doing it to themselves with their piss poor policies and attitude.
blm
(113,061 posts)falling numbers. Corporate media creates mountains out of molehills for Democrats while they turn mountains into molehills for Republicans.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2015/06/03/hillary-clintons-poll-numbers-are-falling-among-democrats/
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Bush becomes more popular when he goes home and starts sniffing paint. That is common sense. Two years out from Obama leaving office and his favorability ratings will be astronomical. Seven years after he leaves office they will be beyond the Big Dog's highest numbers. Apples and oranges. Many are all happy as fuck Bush is sitting at home sniffing paint. A jail cell would be nice, but that isn't in his future.
blm
(113,061 posts)and knew the corporate media would act accordingly, and as scripted.
Headlines like this need to be fought, not accepted.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)He stopped governing and his numbers went up. It happens to almost all politicians. Almost all. No one in the know is going to stop blaming him for anything. In fact, the truth about him keeps becoming more and more clear. What they do know is that he is out of power and his brother is stumbling everywhere. Why fight statistics and shitty reporting by the msm on this one. It will do no good. Bush makes absolutely no decisions for this country. Not one. Our enemies are his friends carrying his torch.
blm
(113,061 posts).
pipoman
(16,038 posts)blm
(113,061 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Some might truly believe that.
delrem
(9,688 posts)and that causation works that way, that the opinions such stupid people have of Bush/Cheney change to become more positive just because Dems have a primary 8 years after B/C left office, what do you think can be done about democracy in the USA? Cancel all elections? Would that work to make things right again?
blm
(113,061 posts)about what is happening.
When did anyone suggest canceling elections?
It is clear that corporate media takes advantage of Dem infighting to help rehabilitate Republicans, even the worst of them.
Does that translate into me suggesting everyone cancel their cable? Please stick to what is said.
delrem
(9,688 posts)And Dems are allowed to have their differences without this being said to somehow traitorously aide the Bush/Cheney brand of Republican. Good to hear that.
blm
(113,061 posts)in the eyes of the casual voters. Tearing down Obama and using bogus 'scandals' (Benghazi) to attack Clinton in their effort to rehab Bushes. Anyone familiar with my postings over the last 14 years knows I target corpmedia in its service to the Bushes. MWO ring a bell? Perhaps it doesn't - MediaWhoresOnline was home to some of us here before DU. We know EXACTLY what they are doing with these headlines and why.
delrem
(9,688 posts)The MSM is the MSM.
blm
(113,061 posts)Really? Because YOU assumed the post was about a primary fight, I should think twice about posting about corporate media deceit when I see it?
Not going to happen. I've been calling out corpmedia for their work for the Bushes since the early 90s and I am not going to stop now.
delrem
(9,688 posts)And no, that doesn't make a slave to the MSM.
For one thing, I've never owned a TV in my (now rather long) life.
blm
(113,061 posts)My takeaway on this article is based on over two decades of focusing on media bias, and doing so for almost a full decade before MWO popped up.
I'll stick to what I see.
delrem
(9,688 posts)Then you tack on some spurious argument re. the MSM and blah blah blah.
Bye
blm
(113,061 posts)Door open. Door closed. If you were an old-timer here you'd be more familiar with my LONGTIME anti-MSM focus and not jump to your cynical conclusion.
GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)and so are it's 'polls'.
blm
(113,061 posts)Far more dangerous than FOX which serves to fuel the Idiocracy.
JHB
(37,160 posts)...rather than attributing it to the general "what have you done for me lately" short-term memory of politics, combined with a dedicated foam-machine on one side and "look forward not back" on the other.
blm
(113,061 posts)Cut my teeth at FAIR (Fairness and Accuracy In Reporting) in the early 90s. The pattern is clear. Make Dem molehills seem like mountains - Make Republican mountains seem like molehills.
JHB
(37,160 posts)...it's the framing of that reporting as "Dem in-fighting" being the reason for Bush's spectacular incompetence going down the memory hole. If that wasn't your intent, please be informed that that's the way your subject line comes across -- putting the onus on Dems rather than on the corporate-media's pattern of behavior.
blm
(113,061 posts)in constant rotation to make people uneasy with Dem party, and taking full advantage to push bogus 'ain't W grand in retrospect' narrative. These polls are propaganda. Did you ever see them poll voters in 2006 to see if they like Bill Clinton more than Bush?
I may have been awkward in my initial wording, but, the point is legitimate.
JHB
(37,160 posts)...was because attributing conservative noise-machine tactics to "Dem-infighting" carries with it the implication that the so-called infighting should be quashed to take away one of the the conservatives' toys. As if there aren't legitimate differences of opinion and perspective within the Democratic Party and some arguing over priorities isn't needed, and as if the Republicans wouldn't make up the lack by their tried and true method of making shit up.
Put the point where it belongs: conservatives throwing bucket after bucket of horseshit, bullshit, and elephant shit at Democrats, point to the fogbank of steam rising off the pile they built up, and say "y'know, where there's smoke..." to their pals in the press, who don't use their own nostrils and dutifully report the cloud as an ominous sign of fire.
blm
(113,061 posts)They have the corporate media trained to respond accordingly.
Molehills turned into mountains - IF you're a Dem.
Mountains turned into molehills - IF you're a Republican.
JHB
(37,160 posts)Just what action are you prescribing to counter this?
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)I don't get the complaint.
blm
(113,061 posts)I think the corpmedia is taking this time to drive Dem numbers down across the board at the same time working to further rehab Bush.
Apparently others don't see what I see, but, wouldn't be a first time for that, would it? ; )
I trust my instincts.
cali
(114,904 posts)with Democratic infighting. For that matter what are you referring to? What infighting?
djean111
(14,255 posts)and everything in the whole world would be finer than fine.
Bernie is looking forward to that.
blm
(113,061 posts)You're wrong. And you're also unfamiliar with my record as being one of the most consistent forces opposing Clinton-worship here at DU since its early years. I just am far more adamantly opposed to all things Republican at this point .especially the Bushes.
djean111
(14,255 posts)because the only infighting I see here is over the candidates.
TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)and white washing the evil fucks as patriots doing their best in difficult times.
They'd be much less popular if treated as criminals rather than elder statesmen.
blm
(113,061 posts)to do - hammering down Dem poll numbers while rehabbing their own, and they're using the infighting at this point to further it.
TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)disagreement.
There needs to be some "infighting" because seemingly the alternative is quiet acceptance minus maybe some campaign chatter before keeping the heat going on.