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blm

(113,061 posts)
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 03:34 PM Jun 2015

(As usual) Biggest beneficiaries of Dem in-fighting…Bush/Cheney's growing popularity.

Washington (AFP) - Former US President George W. Bush is now more popular than his successor Barack Obama, according to a CNN/ORC poll released Wednesday.

The survey said 52 percent of Americans polled have a favorable opinion of the former Republican president who was in office between 2001 and 2009, while 49 percent share a similar feeling about the man currently in the White House.

It took nearly a decade for Americans polled to warm towards Bush, who led the United States during the September 11, 2001 attacks and launched two wars in its aftermath.
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http://news.yahoo.com/george-w-bush-more-popular-obama-poll-142142004.html

Bushes pull this off every time….they know the corporate media controlled by their cronies will fulfill their marching orders.

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(As usual) Biggest beneficiaries of Dem in-fighting…Bush/Cheney's growing popularity. (Original Post) blm Jun 2015 OP
(As usual)Biggest beneficiaries of Dem corporatists being in charge…Bush/Cheney's growing popularity Scuba Jun 2015 #1
Dem corporatists, socialists, and populists ALL get treated like cr@p by corporate media. blm Jun 2015 #4
The solution? RobertEarl Jun 2015 #2
Like this RobertEarl Jun 2015 #15
Don't disagree with you on that score. blm Jun 2015 #29
I'm sorry but I view this as bogus...totally. haikugal Jun 2015 #3
Bogus, yes, but it IS the headline millions of voters are hearing - that and HRC's blm Jun 2015 #7
People. Please get this. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #5
Some of us warned that Bushes were on a Rehab the Bushname Tour blm Jun 2015 #8
I accept it. No reason not to. They are statistics being mangled by the msm. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #11
SOME voters adhere to facts. MANY voters only know whatever the latest HEADLINE tells them. blm Jun 2015 #13
... peecoolyour Jun 2015 #6
Could it be because their policies have been almost identical? pipoman Jun 2015 #9
Of course, especially here in NC where you can't tell the 2 parties apart. Oh wait….. blm Jun 2015 #10
Forget the sarcasm tag. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #12
If you think the vast majority of people truly are that stupid, delrem Jun 2015 #14
I know MANY voters rely on corporate media headlines for information blm Jun 2015 #16
So it has *nothing* to do with a Dem primary campaign. delrem Jun 2015 #19
I said exactly what I mean - the corpmedia uses this opportunity to rehab Bush years blm Jun 2015 #20
So, what doesn't the corp media use? delrem Jun 2015 #21
So, you'd prefer I not post about it when I see it? blm Jun 2015 #22
I didn't say you shouldn't post! I disagree with your takeaway. delrem Jun 2015 #24
Your takeaway was that I was against the democratic process. blm Jun 2015 #26
Your OP slams "democratic infighting". delrem Jun 2015 #27
MsM's opportunity. That's how they operate. blm Jun 2015 #28
CNN is a joke ... GeorgeGist Jun 2015 #17
CNN: Rehab Headquarters for BushInc. blm Jun 2015 #18
That's just a bizzare take-away from that article... JHB Jun 2015 #23
Not to me. Been seeing corpmedia actively protect Bushes for decades. blm Jun 2015 #25
I'm not disputing the corporate media behavior... JHB Jun 2015 #35
Because THAT is how Bushes time these things. Blistering anti-Dem headlines blm Jun 2015 #36
The reason I objected to your post, or at least your wording... JHB Jun 2015 #42
They USE the differences to convey a sense of chaos attached to the Dem party. blm Jun 2015 #43
So what's your solution? Don't have differences? Shut up and get in line? JHB Jun 2015 #44
infighting is a definition of a primary election AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #30
heheh…apparently others don't, either. blm Jun 2015 #31
What evidence do you have that this has anything whatsofucking ever to do cali Jun 2015 #32
Evidently all it would take is for all of us democrats to unite behind one candidate, djean111 Jun 2015 #34
Uh….THAT is what you think this is about? blm Jun 2015 #37
What infighting are you referring to, then? Is it the TPP? I really do want to know, djean111 Jun 2015 #40
Nope, that is caused by "looking forward" and doing too much of the same shit thereby legitimizing TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #33
I agree with that - I just see Bushes succeeding with what they always manage blm Jun 2015 #39
If some weren't in on the fix they'd have way less opportunity and there would be far less TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #41
beneficiaries of six companies owning the media spanone Jun 2015 #38
 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
1. (As usual)Biggest beneficiaries of Dem corporatists being in charge…Bush/Cheney's growing popularity
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 03:35 PM
Jun 2015

blm

(113,061 posts)
4. Dem corporatists, socialists, and populists ALL get treated like cr@p by corporate media.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 03:40 PM
Jun 2015

As a progressive liberal I am calling out the reality that exists.

blm

(113,061 posts)
29. Don't disagree with you on that score.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 06:01 PM
Jun 2015

At all. Still….Corpmedia is the beast to slay if this nation is ever going to truly move forward. I don't think even the most centrist of the Dems would lean towards some of their centrist positions except for the pressure corporate media puts on them like a boot on their necks.

When most every survey shows how left the public actually is in their positions, yet the corporate media will ONLY describe this nation as center-right, you know there is malice aforethought involved.

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
3. I'm sorry but I view this as bogus...totally.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 03:37 PM
Jun 2015

Who owns the MSM? Even the right has distanced themselves from those two losers. Where's Palin? Why is their lineup for the presidential election such a joke?

I don't buy it.

If it is true I agree with the previous posters as to the reasons. Obama and the neoliberal's are doing it to themselves with their piss poor policies and attitude.

blm

(113,061 posts)
7. Bogus, yes, but it IS the headline millions of voters are hearing - that and HRC's
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 03:45 PM
Jun 2015

falling numbers. Corporate media creates mountains out of molehills for Democrats while they turn mountains into molehills for Republicans.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2015/06/03/hillary-clintons-poll-numbers-are-falling-among-democrats/

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
5. People. Please get this.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 03:43 PM
Jun 2015

Bush becomes more popular when he goes home and starts sniffing paint. That is common sense. Two years out from Obama leaving office and his favorability ratings will be astronomical. Seven years after he leaves office they will be beyond the Big Dog's highest numbers. Apples and oranges. Many are all happy as fuck Bush is sitting at home sniffing paint. A jail cell would be nice, but that isn't in his future.

blm

(113,061 posts)
8. Some of us warned that Bushes were on a Rehab the Bushname Tour
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 03:47 PM
Jun 2015

and knew the corporate media would act accordingly, and as scripted.

Headlines like this need to be fought, not accepted.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
11. I accept it. No reason not to. They are statistics being mangled by the msm.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 03:54 PM
Jun 2015

He stopped governing and his numbers went up. It happens to almost all politicians. Almost all. No one in the know is going to stop blaming him for anything. In fact, the truth about him keeps becoming more and more clear. What they do know is that he is out of power and his brother is stumbling everywhere. Why fight statistics and shitty reporting by the msm on this one. It will do no good. Bush makes absolutely no decisions for this country. Not one. Our enemies are his friends carrying his torch.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
14. If you think the vast majority of people truly are that stupid,
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 04:08 PM
Jun 2015

and that causation works that way, that the opinions such stupid people have of Bush/Cheney change to become more positive just because Dems have a primary 8 years after B/C left office, what do you think can be done about democracy in the USA? Cancel all elections? Would that work to make things right again?

blm

(113,061 posts)
16. I know MANY voters rely on corporate media headlines for information
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 04:14 PM
Jun 2015

about what is happening.

When did anyone suggest canceling elections?

It is clear that corporate media takes advantage of Dem infighting to help rehabilitate Republicans, even the worst of them.

Does that translate into me suggesting everyone cancel their cable? Please stick to what is said.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
19. So it has *nothing* to do with a Dem primary campaign.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 04:47 PM
Jun 2015

And Dems are allowed to have their differences without this being said to somehow traitorously aide the Bush/Cheney brand of Republican. Good to hear that.

blm

(113,061 posts)
20. I said exactly what I mean - the corpmedia uses this opportunity to rehab Bush years
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 05:21 PM
Jun 2015

in the eyes of the casual voters. Tearing down Obama and using bogus 'scandals' (Benghazi) to attack Clinton in their effort to rehab Bushes. Anyone familiar with my postings over the last 14 years knows I target corpmedia in its service to the Bushes. MWO ring a bell? Perhaps it doesn't - MediaWhoresOnline was home to some of us here before DU. We know EXACTLY what they are doing with these headlines and why.

blm

(113,061 posts)
22. So, you'd prefer I not post about it when I see it?
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 05:30 PM
Jun 2015

Really? Because YOU assumed the post was about a primary fight, I should think twice about posting about corporate media deceit when I see it?

Not going to happen. I've been calling out corpmedia for their work for the Bushes since the early 90s and I am not going to stop now.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
24. I didn't say you shouldn't post! I disagree with your takeaway.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 05:38 PM
Jun 2015

And no, that doesn't make a slave to the MSM.
For one thing, I've never owned a TV in my (now rather long) life.

blm

(113,061 posts)
26. Your takeaway was that I was against the democratic process.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 05:45 PM
Jun 2015

My takeaway on this article is based on over two decades of focusing on media bias, and doing so for almost a full decade before MWO popped up.

I'll stick to what I see.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
27. Your OP slams "democratic infighting".
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 05:49 PM
Jun 2015

Then you tack on some spurious argument re. the MSM and blah blah blah.

Bye

blm

(113,061 posts)
28. MsM's opportunity. That's how they operate.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 05:50 PM
Jun 2015

Door open. Door closed. If you were an old-timer here you'd be more familiar with my LONGTIME anti-MSM focus and not jump to your cynical conclusion.

blm

(113,061 posts)
18. CNN: Rehab Headquarters for BushInc.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 04:26 PM
Jun 2015

Far more dangerous than FOX which serves to fuel the Idiocracy.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
23. That's just a bizzare take-away from that article...
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 05:34 PM
Jun 2015

...rather than attributing it to the general "what have you done for me lately" short-term memory of politics, combined with a dedicated foam-machine on one side and "look forward not back" on the other.

blm

(113,061 posts)
25. Not to me. Been seeing corpmedia actively protect Bushes for decades.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 05:40 PM
Jun 2015

Cut my teeth at FAIR (Fairness and Accuracy In Reporting) in the early 90s. The pattern is clear. Make Dem molehills seem like mountains - Make Republican mountains seem like molehills.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
35. I'm not disputing the corporate media behavior...
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 07:44 PM
Jun 2015

...it's the framing of that reporting as "Dem in-fighting" being the reason for Bush's spectacular incompetence going down the memory hole. If that wasn't your intent, please be informed that that's the way your subject line comes across -- putting the onus on Dems rather than on the corporate-media's pattern of behavior.

blm

(113,061 posts)
36. Because THAT is how Bushes time these things. Blistering anti-Dem headlines
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 08:06 PM
Jun 2015

in constant rotation to make people uneasy with Dem party, and taking full advantage to push bogus 'ain't W grand in retrospect' narrative. These polls are propaganda. Did you ever see them poll voters in 2006 to see if they like Bill Clinton more than Bush?

I may have been awkward in my initial wording, but, the point is legitimate.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
42. The reason I objected to your post, or at least your wording...
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 10:25 PM
Jun 2015

...was because attributing conservative noise-machine tactics to "Dem-infighting" carries with it the implication that the so-called infighting should be quashed to take away one of the the conservatives' toys. As if there aren't legitimate differences of opinion and perspective within the Democratic Party and some arguing over priorities isn't needed, and as if the Republicans wouldn't make up the lack by their tried and true method of making shit up.

Put the point where it belongs: conservatives throwing bucket after bucket of horseshit, bullshit, and elephant shit at Democrats, point to the fogbank of steam rising off the pile they built up, and say "y'know, where there's smoke..." to their pals in the press, who don't use their own nostrils and dutifully report the cloud as an ominous sign of fire.

blm

(113,061 posts)
43. They USE the differences to convey a sense of chaos attached to the Dem party.
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 08:50 AM
Jun 2015

They have the corporate media trained to respond accordingly.

Molehills turned into mountains - IF you're a Dem.

Mountains turned into molehills - IF you're a Republican.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
44. So what's your solution? Don't have differences? Shut up and get in line?
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 10:18 AM
Jun 2015

Just what action are you prescribing to counter this?

blm

(113,061 posts)
31. heheh…apparently others don't, either.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 06:05 PM
Jun 2015

I think the corpmedia is taking this time to drive Dem numbers down across the board at the same time working to further rehab Bush.

Apparently others don't see what I see, but, wouldn't be a first time for that, would it? ; )

I trust my instincts.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
32. What evidence do you have that this has anything whatsofucking ever to do
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 06:29 PM
Jun 2015

with Democratic infighting. For that matter what are you referring to? What infighting?

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
34. Evidently all it would take is for all of us democrats to unite behind one candidate,
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 07:18 PM
Jun 2015

and everything in the whole world would be finer than fine.

Bernie is looking forward to that.

blm

(113,061 posts)
37. Uh….THAT is what you think this is about?
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 08:10 PM
Jun 2015

You're wrong. And you're also unfamiliar with my record as being one of the most consistent forces opposing Clinton-worship here at DU since its early years. I just am far more adamantly opposed to all things Republican at this point….especially the Bushes.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
40. What infighting are you referring to, then? Is it the TPP? I really do want to know,
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 08:14 PM
Jun 2015

because the only infighting I see here is over the candidates.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
33. Nope, that is caused by "looking forward" and doing too much of the same shit thereby legitimizing
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 06:47 PM
Jun 2015

and white washing the evil fucks as patriots doing their best in difficult times.

They'd be much less popular if treated as criminals rather than elder statesmen.

blm

(113,061 posts)
39. I agree with that - I just see Bushes succeeding with what they always manage
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 08:13 PM
Jun 2015

to do - hammering down Dem poll numbers while rehabbing their own, and they're using the infighting at this point to further it.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
41. If some weren't in on the fix they'd have way less opportunity and there would be far less
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 09:44 PM
Jun 2015

disagreement.

There needs to be some "infighting" because seemingly the alternative is quiet acceptance minus maybe some campaign chatter before keeping the heat going on.

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