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Blue_Adept
(6,406 posts)But we also know people will line up for anything.
Looking forward to seeing the numbers the Republican opposition gets when they start working the stump. Though I suspect many will just stick to debates and safe zones.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"But we also know people will line up for anything."
Creative use of the post hoc ergo prompter hoc fallacy...
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)I put up a sign in a local park that read "Free Poke in the eye with a sharp stick" and had people lining up by the thousands!
baran
(92 posts)Flying Squirrel
(3,041 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)but so far it seems to be quite the opposite
Blue_Adept
(6,406 posts)I like using the avatar simply because it causes people to react based solely on that.
Don't mind me. I'll be voting for Bernie if he manages to survive the primary process long enough in my state of MA.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Blue_Adept
(6,406 posts)They tend to stick to what they are as I don't change them often. I had it as the MA state one for an age. I put the Hillary one up when she announced and just haven't bothered to change it to something non-candidate yet.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)They are lined up for Bernie because they like him. He has a great personality. That's why they line up for Bernie.
Blue_Adept
(6,406 posts)Put a series of ropes and poles into a field and eventually people will line up there too.
It's an expression, maybe one not common in your area, but one that's been around a long time.
Smile a bit more today.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)the tremendous hope and idealism they feel within themselves when he speaks.
They don't line up for anything. They line up for Bernie. And he has barely gotten started.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)Remember when Romney got an empty hall?
Sorry, you are wrong.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Any Republican would have been able to predict the size of the crowd based on how many they had hired to come.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)calimary
(81,649 posts)The koch brothers have a lot of money and they're everywhere - spreading it everywhere.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)His problem is most Democrats are not POPs.
immoderate
(20,885 posts)--imm
catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)Because what I saw was people happy and excited by the possibilities...Which of the people interviewed struck you as pissed off?
jeff47
(26,549 posts)He might get infested with crazy hippie! Do you know how many hours of "Meet the Press" it takes to get that out of your system?
cali
(114,904 posts)Polls show over and over again that the majority of Americans are "pissed off" about status quo politics. And something like 40%+ of dems don't support HRC.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)That's a big number for any political candidate.
Yes, many are pissed off, including myself, but not at Democrats or Hillary or President Obama.
I always keep in mind,
Figures Lie and Liars Figure.
Always take polls with a big grain of salt.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)so I just pass on polls for the most part. Unless you're willing to take the time and dig into the details they're usually pretty useless.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Dig into the numbers a little and you'll see little room for Hillary to expand support, where Bernie has overall 47% don't know enough about him. Plus There are the non-voters because it won't matter crowd to be picked up as well.
Good luck maintaining that lead.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)So the gap is large, but Bernie is doubling up while Hillary is slipping. Months to go, I am liking the trends!
DCBob
(24,689 posts)BASED ON 277 RESPONDENTS WHO DESCRIBE THEMSELVES AS DEMOCRATS AND 156 WHO
DESCRIBE THEMSELVES AS INDEPENDENTS WHO LEAN DEMOCRAT, FOR A TOTAL OF 433
DEMOCRATS -- SAMPLING ERROR: +/- 4.5 PERCENTAGE PTS. (May 29-31, 2015)
Clinton 60%
Biden 14%
Sanders 10%
Webb 2%
O'Malley 1%
Chafee * 1%
Someone else 7%
None/No one 5%
No opinion 1%
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2015/images/06/01/2016.poll.pdf
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)And they are increasingly angry at the State Party Machine and their addiction to 3rd Way candidates like Moneybags Mary Burke.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Getting people riled up never works. Honest.
Just ask President Gore, President Kerry, Governor/Senator Coakley, Senator Grimes, Senator Hagan and many others.
Segami
(14,923 posts)couldn't construct a full spine.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Otherwise the numbers are just too small to differentiate.
Just like we don't measure light bulbs compared to the total output of the sun.
(100W light bulb = 0.0000000000000000000000003846 suns)
Segami
(14,923 posts)Finally, a new Democratic measuring system adaptive to 'squishy' spines.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)is upset about a nickname.
Don't worry, we still love you.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)The point is that the organization types like Hillary. The rest of us like Bernie.
And most of us are not organization types. Most of us will end up voting for Bernie.
Bernie is passionate about his caring for ordinary people. His compassion for the poor and the middle class has been the driving force of his life. It has educated his votes, his decisions, his life path. And we all feel that when he speaks.
He has a marvelous sense of humor when it comes to himself. He gives the impression of being a person who really loves people and you get the feeling he has a deep sense of morality, of right and wrong. His votes in Congress reflect the judgment that comes from that deep sense of right and wrong.
I love Bernie. What can I say. I think that as Bernie is seen more and more and heard more and more, more people will love him as a politician too.
And he is free from the excessive influence of corporate and wealthy donors and all their hopes and desires and demands because he doesn't seek corporate money. I'm donating to him and hope to buy some of his swag.
I'm active in local Democratic politics and always campaign for our candidates. I will not campaign for Hillary. I do not trust her. I trust Bernie.
Rex
(65,616 posts)And they know who will make Wall Street pay for their crimes.
mother earth
(6,002 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)His campaign is just darned exciting.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Bryce Butler
(338 posts)WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)Wonder if Politico has offered up a hit piece on this latest event...
mother earth
(6,002 posts)ebbie15644
(1,216 posts)mother earth
(6,002 posts)For Bernie Sanders, the president WE NEED.
yuiyoshida
(41,880 posts)K&R
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)Met a LOT of very nice people, of all ages, races, genders, and physical abilities. It was an amazing event to say the least.
grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)Segami
(14,923 posts)Anything you want to share with us would be greatly appreciated to say the least. Your recount is definitely worthy of its own thread.
I would have loved to have been there just to listen to Bernie speak.......
kentuck
(111,111 posts)America is looking for one honest man.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)Gamecock Lefty
(701 posts)So the organizational types like Hillary; the rest like Bernie? If youre progressive, you like Bernie; if not you like Hillary? Geez, I dont even know what all that means. I always thought I was a progressive-type guy. Maybe not.
Third Way, Wall Street, fake Democrat. I didnt realize Hillary wasnt one of us?
So todays Dem Party only has two members Bernie and the beloved Liz Warren?
And Obama is now a phony and a Republican?
Where have I been???
SVFH Still Voting for Hillary!
Laser102
(816 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....that does not mean that when it comes time in a primary that they will vote for him.
Curiously, in a poll conducted a few days ago (before the sad news about Beau), Sanders was running third behind VP Biden.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Clinton - 60%
Biden - 14%
Sanders - 10%
more......
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)That poll, by the way, is something of an outlier. It also has Walker at 3rd place behind Bush & Rubio, in contrast to a lot of other polls.
Also, the sample was described as "433 adults" with no indication of whether they are likely voters, etc.
Here is a more comprehensive summary of recent polling:
Republicans--
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_republican_presidential_nomination-3823.html
Dems--
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html
Note that the average of all Dem polls for that period shows Biden exactly tied with Sanders at 10.8%.
George II
(67,782 posts)....for the next year or more.
I'm almost positive that Biden won't run, and not because of his recent family tragedy, but he still has relatively high poll results most likely because of name recognition (and ignorance on the part of the electorate).
I'll feel more confident in these polls come January next year. The reason I pointed out that Biden was out-polling Sanders partly to show the weakness of polls in May 2015, 16 months before the Conventions and 19 months before the election.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)they're all over the map. They are of strategic use to political campaigns, but at this point they predict nothing.
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)that cannot be stopped. What he stands for is what most people want - and it means drastic change for some, and a better life for most Americans.
People with money get 1 vote each, regardless of their wealth.
And thanks to the wealthy, there are more poor people, thus the poor are getting stronger with single votes - if we can get them all to vote.
Maybe finally the 1% have overplayed their hand..
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)eom
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