I would stand in front of a bus for President Obama

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Carry on!!!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. I would stand in front of a parked one.

I

[shenmue]

2. I see whut u did ther

[Jackpine Radical]

13. I had somewhat similar thoughts--Depends on the bus.

[Yorktown]

59. Would standing in front of a toy bus count?

If so, let me be a hero.

[hrmjustin]

3. I love him as well but hopefully the bus thing is not necessary.

But yes I love the guy and trust him.

I may not always agree but I trust him.

[JaneyVee]

4. DU already put him under the bus.

Couldn't resist.

[Scootaloo]

5. prove it. n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. I am a little long in the tooth to be a secret service agent

I am a little long in the tooth to be a secret service agent but I would gladly do it and they are obliged to take a bullet for the president.

[Scootaloo]

9. No, you said you would. Let's see it. Get a friend to video

Don't worry! Your faith will protect you!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. It's a metaphor...

It's logistically impossible to put POTUS in front of an incoming bus without eating a ton of led.

[bluesbassman]

6. And that proves what exactly?

[hobbit709]

8. I won't stand in front of a bus for anyone.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

11. Greater love has no one than this...

Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one's life for one's friends.

[hobbit709]

14. Friends yes, politicians no.

[darkangel218]

21. +1

[Mojorabbit]

23. +100. nt

[RedCappedBandit]

26. have to agree. ridiculous. nt

[840high]

27. ...^ that

[Marr]

108. That just makes me sad.

You actually think some politician who is going to leave office and live the life of a multimillionaire is your friend.

[awoke_in_2003]

40. I would...

to save my wife or my grandchildren.

[sendit]

12. lol

[yeoman6987]

15. There is no way I'd stand in front of a moving bus for any

Politician. I would family members and that's it.

[tblue37]

102. I ran out in front of busy traffic (30 mph limit, but many drove faster) to snatch a cat

(not my own) to safety. It was an automatic response. I would almost certainly have done so for any living being, as I think most people would. The reflex in most is not limited to close friends and family--and not always even limited to "cute" or safe animals. I recently read of a woman who died trying to save a possum from being hit by a train! Adult possums are scary, not at all cute, yet she died trying to save the poor creature.

I doubt my rescuer genes would lead me that far, but those altruistic tendencies are surprisingly powerful in our species, at least among non-sociopaths.

[yeoman6987]

124. That is so awesome! I like to think I'd do the same

Regardless of my prior reply.

[rhett o rick]

16. Personally, I don't think that blind Faith or blind devotion is a good quality for a Democrat.

I say keep an open mind and always be skeptical.

I like him as a personality and agree with some of what he has done, but I won't blindly trust any politician.

[okaawhatever]

18. What makes you think his support is blind? He may be very well educated on the issues and that is

his educated opinion. Liking a President and a willingness to metaphorically stand in front of a bus for him doesn't mean their faith is blind, just strong.

[rhett o rick]

33. Liking the President and never questioning anything he does is the definition of blind Faith.

Reminds me of TV Evangulists. Lots of people have strong Faith in them. No matter how you rationalize it, it's blind Faith.

All the Progressives say it's a bad thing but Obama says to trust him and his secret deal. He hasn't shown any reason other that trust in him. That's blind faith.

[treestar]

56. Questioning everything he does and always finding him wrong

is equally blind. Especially when you have to twist facts to get there.

[rhett o rick]

89. I am disappointed you went there. You know I don't question everything he does.

I question all my elected representatives. That's my obligation as a citizen and especially as a Democrat. I neither twist facts nor support twisted facts. Just because you disagree doesn't make them twisted. If I twist facts that is the time to point it out and not just accuse me.

I recognize the need for some to have an authoritarian leader that they can trust completely. Most of us were raised that way. IMO it's a conservative mindset and very dangerous to our democracy. In 2007 I was fully committed to supporting Barack Obama and I believe he is a good man and greatly appreciate him as a president personality. I think he has done a lot of good, but I do not agree with all he does and feel I should be able to express my feeling on a "politically liberal" message board w/o derision.

[ScreamingMeemie]

37. It has become as scary as the people with the "W" on the back of their cars...

It really, really has. I try to ignore it but it creeps me out every bit as much as it did when Republican voters did it.

[treestar]

58. People who trust no one for anything are scary too

Why would someone mistrust everyone?

[ScreamingMeemie]

110. I don't believe that was what I was talking about. I was addressing the comments

in this person's replay. I don't keep a notebook on DUers, so I don't really know what you are getting at. Thanks.

[yeoman6987]

125. Any political sticker on a car freaks me out

Especially the ones still on the car long after an election.

[treestar]

55. Which applies to Sanders and Warren too right?

The blind faith shown in them from the same people who think it's not permissible for President Obama is quite hypocritical.

[cherokeeprogressive]

17. I wouldn't... but I WILL volunteer to help clean up the mess.

[okaawhatever]

19. I would too, but only because I know the secret service would shoot out the tires long before it hit

either of us. I am definitely a fan. He's not perfect, but he is great and I think history will acknowledge that.

[LiberalElite]

24. THIS Secret Service?

better have affairs in order beforehand...

[Aerows]

29. No kidding

they are equally likely to be distracted by hookers and blow as even recognize that the bus is in danger.

[fadedrose]

20. You certainly know how to get an R out of me...nt

[PowerToThePeople]

22. ...

[Oilwellian]

41. That's a keeper

[neverforget]

25. Concerning TPP, he's driving the bus nt.

[840high]

28. He's driving the bus

over us.

[neverforget]

32. And the passengers rooting him on are the Republicans and US Chamber of Commerce

and some Democrats.

[rhett o rick]

34. Maybe only DINO's. nm

[DemocratSinceBirth]

48. So if a person who supports President Obama is a DINO what does that make President Obama? /NT

[rhett o rick]

92. Is that a riddle? If so, I give up. Why don't you tell us? nm

[DemocratSinceBirth]

93. A man who was elected and re-elected with nearly universal support from Democrats is a

A man who was elected and re-elected with nearly universal support from Democrats is by any logical definition a Democrat and so is anybody who supports him.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#USP00p1

http://elections.nbcnews.com/ns/politics/2012/all/president/#exitPoll

Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.


-John Adams

[rhett o rick]

121. I don't know who you are agruing with. I have never said he wasn't a Democrat. nm

[Thinkingabout]

30. I am not going to desert Obama on TPP, I am waiting for the final draft.

[JHB]

31. With the bus moving or parked?

That's an important distinction for this sort of claim.

[oneshooter]

35. But waht would you do for a Klondike Bar? n/t

[ScreamingMeemie]

36. I would only protect my children. Sorry DSB and Obama...

You're just folks, and my kids actually matter in my small life.

[whatchamacallit]

38. But would he do the same for you?

[JanMichael]

45. Yes but he would throw a union member in front of you as a proxy.

[99Forever]

39. I'll bet you think that is quite sane.

[LuvNewcastle]

51. LOL

I'd suck the snot out of a baby's nose until his head caved in if Obama told me to.

[99Forever]

52. Perhaps we should have a contest to ...

... see who can come up with the most ridiculous loyalty oath!

Then we can crown them King (or Queen) Chump.

[LuvNewcastle]

53. I think I already know who the contenders will be.

[99Forever]

54. Yup.

I think we might already have a winner.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

74. I wear your and Luv Newcastle's attacks like a badge...

NT

[99Forever]

76. Attack? Thin-skinned much?

You post a silly, ridiculous loyalty pledge and then can't take the comments it generates?


Wadda surprise.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

78. I am never the first to attack but I will not refrain from defending myself vigorously

I am never the first to attack but I will not refrain from defending myself vigorously on the "internets" and of more importance IRL.

[99Forever]

90. If you think you've been "attacked" then...

... you just keep on keepin' on with your brave self!!!!

[Marr]

107. +1

[GeorgeGist]

42. Are you a superhero?

[betterdemsonly]

43. Reminds me of the people who thought GOD chose Bush n/t

[JanMichael]

44. Then you are a suicidal cult member. Congrats. nt.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

46. You could argue Christ's disciples who were almost to a one matryred

You could argue Christ's disciples who were almost to a one martyred were "suicidal cult members".


You could argue that the members of John Brown's raid on Harper's Ferry were "suicidal cult members".



You could argue that the soldiers in the first wave at Normandy were "suicidal cult members".

"...A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight,
nothing which is more important than his own personal safety,
is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free
unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

-John Stuart Mill

[MFrohike]

99. You could

You could also drink a glass of Draino. It'd be as advisable as arguing as you suggest.

[MrMickeysMom]

47. Is there history to back that up?

Could be a head injury, perhaps???

[DemocratSinceBirth]

49. My ability to reason and sentience has never been questioned./NT

[MrMickeysMom]

69. Ooohhhh….

I wouldn't be so sure…

[AgingAmerican]

50. I don't worship politicians

nt

[Katashi_itto]

57. Darwinism at work.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

61. Ad hominem

NT

[Katashi_itto]

62. Your wanting to stand in front of a bus. Not me.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

63. "Greater love has no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."

NT

[Katashi_itto]

64. Darwinism at work. Considering this is just you wanting to stand in front of a bus.

For no particular reason.

Except to declare your support.

Thulsa Doom's cultists come to mind.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

65. I would stand in front of a bus and risk my life to save his.

What part of that don't you understand?

[Katashi_itto]

70. You said " I would stand in front of a bus for President Obama"

So standing in front of random buses for President Obama is still Darwin at work.

But Thulsa Doom stated it with better style.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

72. The SAT must have been your enemy.

It was a metaphor. It is not my burden you were incapable of drawing the logical inference.


Oh, I didn't even watch the youtube you posted. I considered the source and deemed it a waste of my time.



#lol@me

[cherokeeprogressive]

73. This much is exactly right...

#lol@you

[DemocratSinceBirth]

75. I flatulate in the direction of your attack.

NT

[Katashi_itto]

81. Thin Skinned Much?

[cherokeeprogressive]

88. I welcome your flatulence.

Here's the deal... You keep using the biblical verse "Greater love hath no man...", and talking about laying down your life for your friends.

ARE you "friends" with Barack Obama? Michelle? Bill, Hillary, or Chelsea?

If you're not friends in the classic sense, then you're here telling us you'd put your life on the line for politicians, their wives, and their children.

That just makes me feel icky.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

91. Since I am In the SFV you presumably can smell it...

I am willing to risk my life for a cause larger than myself. I subscribe to John Stuart Mills' formulation:

The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.

[cherokeeprogressive]

98. Fair enough...

But I'll tell you this: If you think I should smell your flatulence from a hundred plus miles away, something is seriously wrong with your digestive tract. I think you might want to get that checked out.

And I'd hope you understand I was intending to be cheeky rather than insulting.

BTW the sun is shining brightly here at 7,000 feet for the first time in a week and for my money there is no more beautiful place in So. Cal.

Have a Wonderful Day
Chris

[DemocratSinceBirth]

100. I regret our verbal altercation.

The point was I would be willing to risk my life to save another person's life or I would hope I could muster the courage to do so... No, I do not believe in human sacrifices.


I have been past the Ambassador Hotel which is now a school several times...Several people including Roosevelt Grier risked their lives to disarm Sirhan Sirhan when he assassinated Bobby Kennedy. They were a second late. I'd like to think if I was there I would have been one of them...

I have only been in L A three years and have never been to Staples or Chavez Ravine though I have been past them several times. I hope to change it.

PEACE
Brian.

[cherokeeprogressive]

101. I would also hope I had the courage to do what was right if and when it came down to it.

We're on the same team and hope for the same things.

Glad to have you as a teammate.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

104. I will admit that bravery and putting yourself at personal risk is easier in theory

I will admit that bravery and putting yourself at personal risk is easier in theory but in the case of the Ambassador Hotel "ordinary people" did but I don't know if ordinary people are as big as Rosey Grier. Whatever he was he wasn't bullet proof...

I also think it's likely that if someone puts themselves at risk it will be reflexively before fear which is natural emotion kicks in.

[cherokeeprogressive]

106. I can't argue with a single word of that. n/t

[Katashi_itto]

77. LOl. One point short of acing the SAT. You on the other hand simply come across like

like some crazed cultist. Then you get upset when it's pointed out.

Blind faith is never a good quality in a Democrat.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

80. If you believe...

If you believe that willing to risk one's life to save the life of another makes one a "crazed cultist" there is nothing I can say to disabuse you of that notion, your protestations of SAT mastery notwithstanding.

[Katashi_itto]

84. Clad in dark robes. He prostrated himself before the velvet painting of Obama

chanting "ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fht!"

"May a Thousand Buses Run over me!!!"

[DemocratSinceBirth]

85. If that's your way of saying "I really have nothing" I accept it.

NT

[Katashi_itto]

86. Praise Obama! Obama shows me the way to the seat of the Elder Gods. I just need to be run over

by a bus.

(Always Humor Cultists)

[DemocratSinceBirth]

87. A for obscurantism.

Yes, I believe there are causes that are more important than my individual well being, and protecting the life of the president is one of them.

[Katashi_itto]

95. Your still the one wanting to stand in front of Buses.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

96. I would step in front of a bus to protect you.

I would step in front of a bus to protect you even though you have contempt for me as that is what my moral compass demands. I am a liberal because I have empathy for folks in distress, and being in the path of an incoming bus qualifies as distress, imminent distress, to be precise.

Some folks define themselves by what they are against. I prefer to define myself by what I am for.

[Katashi_itto]

97. Glad you are willing to do that. Even though the bus is not threatening me.

I will be kind enough to call 911 for you. Will make the call after lunch, that is.

[bbgrunt]

113. omfg!! thanks for that video!

[Katashi_itto]

114. :)

[Marr]

111. "I would stand in front of a bus for Britney Spears".

That's how it sounds to people who aren't in the cult. It's an expression of selfless devotion to someone who doesn't even know your name. It sounds servile and pitiful and utterly irrational-- and sad.

It's not, as you've suggested, simply a reference to defending those around you. This is a politician promoting policy-- not a toddler wandering into traffic.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

112. I would stand in front of a bus to rescue Brittany and Miley and you too...

If push ever came to shove I would hope I have the courage to place others over my well being .

[Katashi_itto]

115. Can I drive the bus?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

116. If you deliberately ran someone over wouldn't that make you a murderer?

I will spare you the lecture on being "hoisted on your own petard"...


Oh, I just did that, whatever...

[Katashi_itto]

117. Either way. It still puts you under the bus. Martyrdom!!!!

PRAISE OBAMA!!!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

118. Would you rather be a murderer or a martyr?

NT

[Katashi_itto]

119. Man Being Dragged By Bus Leaves Hilarious Phone Message

http://www.theonion.com/audio/man-being-dragged-by-bus-leaves-hilarious-phone-me,12657/

Off to Kendo practice. Will check back in to see if your still in the sandbox here.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

120. I would have quit after being put in a position that I preferred murder to martyrdom...

I would have quit after being put in a position that it appeared I preferred murder to martyrdom but that's me.

[Katashi_itto]

130. It's not murder when you are just driving along and some cretin throws himself

in front of a bus.

Then it's just watching Darwin at work.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

132. Every time I log on the first thing I do is check "My Posts" ...

It's not murder when you are just driving along and some cretin throws himself
in front of a bus.


Then it's just watching Darwin at work

Every time I log on the first thing I do is check "My Posts" and I see more puerile nonsense from you






BTW, how did your Kendo go?

[Katashi_itto]

133. Whose throwing themselves in front of the bus? I am not the one spouting

the puerile nonsense.


Kendo went fine. Its a great cardiovascular work out.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

134. Asked and answered.

If you don't believe there is something admirable about be willing to surrender one's safety in the service of another I don't think there is anything a random internet poster can do to convince you such is the case...

You served in our nation's military and I salute you. You certainly believed, at one time, in serving a cause that was greater than your personal safety.

[Katashi_itto]

135. I still do. Just not throwing myself in front of random buses.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

136. Why is it so important to you to misinterpret my metaphor?

It's becoming your raison d'etre.

[Katashi_itto]

137. Frankly some meaningless post on some board declaring your intention to be

a "Hero" is well...rather demeaning.

The armchair warrior thing keeps coming to mind.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

142. That presupposes I have never taken physical risks in the service of another.

Just how do you divine that over the internet and more importantly how do you prove it...


The "armchair warrior" appellation would have much more credence if you can point to instances where I had the opportunity to act valorously and demurred, wouldn't it?


But alas, we are making progress...We do seem to agree that there are situations that demand valor.

[Katashi_itto]

147. I suppose could say something equally ridculous.

Like say during a Naval deployment. Having to go out in an away boat, in the middle of a hurricane off Cuba; to rescue some civilian yacht.

Oh wait, I did do that.

I got a Humanitarian medal for that. Never-mind.

Ok how about this. The next time Air Force One gets taken over by terrorists I will help the President?

Oh Wait that was a movie. Never-mind.

Dude posting something like I would "take a bullet for the President or jump in front of a bus" is simply meaningless.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

150. Well, that's laudable...

But the only thing you can hang your hat on that I am an "armchair warrior" is your preconceived notion that I had the opportunity to act valorously and instead acted cowardly...That's really a nasty accusation but that's why you made it.

[Katashi_itto]

152. Dude your the one posting the "I will be a hero" Not me.

[Katashi_itto]

151. Aw screw it. Off to go watch something interesting.

"Aguirre, the Wrath of God"

Was the inspiration for "Apocalypse Now"

The first collaboration between director Werner Herzog and star Klaus Kinski, this freely-imagined yet fact-inspired tale of Spanish conquistadors searching for a mythical "city of gold" in 16th-century Peru was a career landmark for both Herzog and Kinski and an artistic landmark for cinema.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

153. Saw the latter, not the former...The former seems too high brow for me...

My cinematic tastes are much more plebeian.


PEACE
DSB

[Katashi_itto]

156. ? I am only talking about one movie "Wrath Of God".

It just inspired A.N.

Course, in regards to A.N. and "Wrath" I liked both.

Never thought either were to high brow.

A.N. had a very realistic depiction of war. Especially the Da Nang Bridge sequence.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

157. I only saw the latter...

Did you know that Martin Sheen had a heart attack on the set ?


Which movie do you think was the most accurate depiction of the Vietnam War?

[Katashi_itto]

159. yes i had heard that. The director's production

went bankrupt six times during the production.

Not sure how you manage that.

They also used the entire Philippine helicopter force and a large portion of it's army too.

Amazing movie.

Someday I would love to have 1/10 that budget to shoot one of my movies.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

162. I read about the heart attack in a piece about Rob Lowe In Vanity Fair.

He was living with the Sheens at the time. They were all intimidated by Coppola when they were making The Outsiders.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

123. And you will be thinking of me every minute. Thanks for the heads up, though.

[Bobbie Jo]

164. Good call. nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

168. Katashi_itto and I have had a rapprochement so I want to put our enmity to bed.

For the others I am shocked that my show of support for a Democratic president, hyperbole notwithstanding, would cause so much agita for so many on a board named Democratic Underground.


It's akin to the out of tune member of a choir who complains everybody else can't sing.

[Bobbie Jo]

170. Nicely done

You're far more patient than I...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

171. Patience is a goal of mine rather than a description at the moment

[Logical]

140. You sort of set yourself up for that one. nt

[Puglover]

138. Plus about a billion!

Good lord.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

60. LOL. What if Obama was driving the bus?

[cali]

66. would you stand in front of one for Hillary?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

67. Of course and Bill... and Chelsea...and Michelle... and Natasha...and Malia...

[AZ Progressive]

68. Human beings are the most irrational creatures on earth

And the OP is further proof of it...

[Reter]

71. What do you think you're Superman?

You think the bus would just stop when it hits you?

[still_one]

79. Then I suggest you join the secret service. You probably would do a better job than they have

been doing

[Enrique]

82. prove it

[DemocratSinceBirth]

83. Disprove it.

[Liberal_in_LA]

94. lol. glad to see a pro Obama thread

[polichick]

103. But who would the prez do that for? You? The people?

[Marr]

105. There are plenty under the bus already.

I hope you understand how expressions of undying, selfless devotion like this make your defenses of policy seem a bit... tainted.

[senseandsensibility]

109. The OP is obviously toying with us.

But thanks for the comic relief. One of the funniest threads ever.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

122. "Some people will do anything to prove they're right." From a psychologist talking about suicedes.

[PeteSelman]

126. Honestly, I think we should just trust our President.......

[Kelvin Mace]

127. Well, he is counting on it

So I am sure that pleases him no end.

[U4ikLefty]

128. You continue to embarrass yourself.

BTW, did I mention that I teach Judo in Tokyo?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

129. If you think I give a rat's ass what you think of me there is nothing I can do...

You continue to embarrass yourself...

If you think I give a rat's ass what you think of me there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion.

[U4ikLefty]

139. You seem to have a generous supply of rat's asses.

They have a lot of them in Asstucky...I guess that's where they got the name.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

144. See Post 129

Oh,

[U4ikLefty]

146. See Post 128

Oh,

[DemocratSinceBirth]

148. I saw it and I treated your puerile invective with the dismissal it demanded.

Oh,

[U4ikLefty]

149. Are you still NOT giving a "rat's ass"?

C'mon give me one...I know you've got a lot of them in supply. I'll stop hiding behind my peace sign.

Oh,

[DemocratSinceBirth]

155. No. I am enjoying our tete a tete...

I am looking for a reset in our relationship.


Oh,

[U4ikLefty]

160. Sorry, done making oatmeal for tomoorow's breakfast. Judo...Tokyo = many experts

Oh,

Bye...t'was fun.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

161. I will look forward to our next tete a tete. It can't be soon enough.

I feel like I'm getting to know you...


And to you.

[Logical]

141. Well, I give you credit for not posting another Hillary Rah Rah. nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

145. If you find my tireless advocacy for fellow Democrats annoying you can put me on "ignore"

or contact one of the administrators and ask him to ask me to cease, ergo:



[email protected]

[Logical]

163. No, it is entertaining really. I am waiting for more posts about another celeb that loves Hillary.

[TheKentuckian]

131. I probably wouldn't even ride a bus to see Mr. Obama

[craigmatic]

143. We all love President Obama but let's be real here sometimes the love goes only in one direction.nt

[Rex]

154. Nothing wrong with standing in front of a bus that is not moving!

I'd stand in front of a tank...I'd float in front of a nuke sub...I'd tease a rhino...I'd jump over the San Andreas fault!

[whatchamacallit]

158. Do this and maybe he'll be impressed

[ibegurpard]

165. I'm sorry for you.

[romanic]

166. I like Obama too.

But a bus, really?

[davidn3600]

167. That bus wouldnt say "TPP" on it, would it?

[mia]

169. He's driving the bus, full blast,

and my children and grandchildren are in the middle of the road.