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packman

(16,296 posts)
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 12:07 PM Apr 2015

Think I'll go to Norway and commit a crime-

A murder and drug dealer relaxing on the deck of his cottage:

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"About 75 kilometers off the coast of Oslo in Norway, is an island that's home to some 115 criminals, including the country’s most dangerous, convicted of crimes such as murder, rape and drug dealing. However, doing time here is like being on a holiday. There are no barbed-wire-topped walls or electrified fences circle the island, nor do armed guards and attack dogs patrol the grounds. Prisoners live in brightly painted small wooden cottages, and tend to farm animals, grow crops and chop wood. For recreation, there's a beach where prisoners sunbathe in the summer, plenty of good fishing spots, horses for riding, a sauna and tennis courts. Dinner offers a choice of dishes such as “fish balls with white sauce and shrimps" and everything from chicken con carne to salmon"

Now, wonder what it would take to at least experiment with this type of treatment in the U.S.?

Seems to work though --- "Only 16% of prisoners who come out of Bastoy reoffend within two years of being released, compared to Norway's national average of 20 percent, and the European average of 70%."
http://www.amusingplanet.com/2015/04/bastoy-prison-worlds-nicest-prison.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+amusingplanet+%28Amusing+Planet%29

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Think I'll go to Norway and commit a crime- (Original Post) packman Apr 2015 OP
If the rate of reoffending is that low Bettie Apr 2015 #1
The U.S. 5 year recidivism rate is 76.6 percent mn9driver Apr 2015 #2
Interesting treestar Apr 2015 #3
The US has a punishment mentality. Prison is vengeance. Oneironaut Apr 2015 #4
Amazing article, thank you. Nt lostnfound Apr 2015 #5
Not only Norway... RoccoR5955 Apr 2015 #6

Bettie

(16,120 posts)
1. If the rate of reoffending is that low
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 12:09 PM
Apr 2015

then it seems like it works.

Wow, treat people as people and they turn their lives around.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
3. Interesting
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 12:29 PM
Apr 2015

The mindset is usually that if it's not unpleasant, they won't learn their lesson.

They can't leave there, though. Could get boring. But it's interesting about the recidivism in that, maybe that lack of freedom to come and go is enough punishment.

Oneironaut

(5,522 posts)
4. The US has a punishment mentality. Prison is vengeance.
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 12:39 PM
Apr 2015

State-opposed vengeance. We aren't interested in rehabilitating - just making people pay for their crimes. Very stupid in the long run economically and socially.

Good luck getting change, though. Any politician who wanted to reform the prison system would be treated like they pledged support for the Taliban.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
6. Not only Norway...
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 03:44 PM
Apr 2015

But in the Netherlands, in 2013, they were planning on closing 13 of their prisons, due to a decline in crime.
They must be doing something correctly.
http://www.trueactivist.com/netherlands-closing-19-prisons-due-to-lack-of-criminals/

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