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(11,076 posts)
Tue May 1, 2012, 03:40 PM May 2012

Local Wendy's just installed a big screen TV!

Today we went to our local Wendy's and lo and behold they have installed a big screen TV. We asked the manager if she would please change the channel and she said that they had tried that and it only shows black on other stations. Faux News there, as big as life. Seven months before a big election and they plunk that thing in the dining room.

I called the operating manager and l let him know that I was upset about the addition and he asked me what I had against *ox News. I let him know that it wasn't news and that we found it offensive. He asked what channel I would like to see and I let him know that I wouldn't direct anyone to a particular station but if they were insistent on showing TV, the weather channel might be as useful as any this time of year.

He said that he would pass the info to the owners and I let him know that we would be back next week and if *ox was still on that would be it for us. Our other peace nic friends were in there and they too were disgusted. If the regulars quit coming maybe it will mean something. This is sad because up until now the restaurant had been a neighborhood gathering place.

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Local Wendy's just installed a big screen TV! (Original Post) peace13 May 2012 OP
Did you ask where they got the TV? Fawke Em May 2012 #1
That's what we figured too. peace13 May 2012 #5
I remember reading here on DU, that years ago, Fox dmr May 2012 #14
+100 n/t peace13 May 2012 #29
Actually, Fox paid many cable systems to carry its news channel when it first launched onenote May 2012 #33
Our local hospital has Fox on the tv in the waiting room. dixiegrrrrl May 2012 #36
i remember Fox was on at Macy's just outside the fitting rooms where people can wait JI7 May 2012 #44
I hope they get the message PatSeg May 2012 #2
And there's nothing worse than arguing with Fox bots either. Initech May 2012 #4
Its really scary PatSeg May 2012 #22
They're almost like a cult in someways. Initech May 2012 #34
Its even scarier PatSeg May 2012 #42
That's nothing one of these can't cure GoCubsGo May 2012 #3
There oughta be an iPhone app that does the same thing Bozita May 2012 #6
There is. Pab Sungenis May 2012 #13
Hmmmm. peace13 May 2012 #8
A temporary fix, unfortunately. Jackpine Radical May 2012 #10
What is that? dixiegrrrrl May 2012 #37
It's a TV zapper. GoCubsGo May 2012 #38
Oh goodie whompers. dixiegrrrrl May 2012 #39
I don't know. GoCubsGo May 2012 #40
It is like walking past dozens of tv commercials dixiegrrrrl May 2012 #41
That story is indeed sad. nt greytdemocrat May 2012 #7
When the local manager told you it only played Fox, you should have left. . . Journeyman May 2012 #9
This store is owned by local people with multiple stores. peace13 May 2012 #17
I bet you can find someplace that serves real food with no TV. LeftyMom May 2012 #11
While some of the food will kill you ... peace13 May 2012 #21
That doesn't make for a good Politicalboi May 2012 #12
There is only one way the local Wendy's gets Fox and no way to change the channel. Bolo Boffin May 2012 #15
The box may have something akin to Fawke Em May 2012 #16
Parental controls on the cable box, didn't think of that. Bolo Boffin May 2012 #20
Yep. It's deliberate. progressoid May 2012 #28
Junk news. Junk food. what a combo meal KurtNYC May 2012 #31
Piss on Wendy's lpbk2713 May 2012 #18
"I'll know to stay away from now on" yortsed snacilbuper May 2012 #27
McDonald's also NeverEnuff May 2012 #19
I find it truly amazing that obliviously May 2012 #23
I'm speachless that you feel this way. n/t patricia92243 May 2012 #24
*ox is not news. peace13 May 2012 #25
You have heard this is an election year have you not? lpbk2713 May 2012 #26
Aparently you obliviously May 2012 #30
I think that you miss that by being a member of DU, many of us are very astute followers of politics Earth_First May 2012 #32
I wouldn't want to hear that crap while I was trying to enjoy myself renate May 2012 #35
You find it amazing that people don't like being lied to? Fumesucker May 2012 #43
Rotten bastards guitar man May 2012 #45
I'll take this nugget of knowledge with me when I follow up next week! peace13 May 2012 #47
The Hooters restaurant here has a big screen tv, too. Major Hogwash May 2012 #46

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
1. Did you ask where they got the TV?
Tue May 1, 2012, 03:43 PM
May 2012

Or the feed?

There is no reason why no other channels would show up unless the television and/or cable drop was provided by Faux News and it's "unfit to run a company" head Rupert Murdoch.



(11,076 posts)
5. That's what we figured too.
Tue May 1, 2012, 03:49 PM
May 2012

We go to this store on a regular basis and this guy has known us for years. To tell you the truth it was creepy and sad to have explain to him what was wrong with *ox. I will ask him who paid for it if they do not change the channel.

My guess is yours, that they didn't pay a dime for any of it. Will let you know if I find out. He did say that the other stores owned by the same folks did not get TV's.


(28,385 posts)
14. I remember reading here on DU, that years ago, Fox
Tue May 1, 2012, 04:05 PM
May 2012

bought & installed TVs in waiting rooms around the country. The stipulation was they had to play the Fox cable station.

This was in the early days when Fox first started & it was promotional. I also remember reading here that Fox gave the cable owners it's station for free if they would add it to their cable line-up.

I guess you'd say that's good business, but you have to have a hell of a lot of money to pay for that gamble. But then, what gamble? You have politicians doing whatever you ask of them, & you feed the masses fear, danger & whathaveyou in big bold colorful, fast & fancy graphics - & it's like showing cartoons to little kids.

I've been searching for articles on this & on how the GOP fast tracked Murdock's American citizenship to enable him to buy up several small stations all across America as well as the big Faux News.

I think a lot of criminal activity is involved here, & I also believe some very big political names are, too. But we'll never know because this sadly will never be investigated. And in the meantime, the non-thinking & increasingly belligerent masses will still be mesmerized by the Fox-like cartoons. And, in this Citizens United PAC-world, I bet there are many televisions going into a lot of waiting rooms & restaurants during this campaign season.

I swear I'm going to

I also wonder why those ultra-patriotic Americans - those who cry foul for the most mundane, don't stand up against having their news negatively & very much in partisanship fed to them by "foreigners"- this also includes Saudi investments.


(42,920 posts)
33. Actually, Fox paid many cable systems to carry its news channel when it first launched
Tue May 1, 2012, 06:08 PM
May 2012

Couple of different things going on:
First, back in the mid-1980s, Murdoch wanted to start a broadcast network to compete with NBC,CBS and ABC. As an anchor for that network, he wanted to purchase some stations, but to do that he needed to become an American citizen and he needed it done in a hurry. As you suggest, with a little "help" from friends in the Reagan administration, he got his wish and the way was cleared for the creation of the Fox network in 1986 or thereabouts.

Fast forward a decade to 1996. Murdoch decides to launch a satellite delivered news channel to compete with CNN. His naturalization as a US citizen is unrelated to this, since there are no foreign ownership rules governing cable networks. But he was having trouble getting on cable systems, so he offered major "launch" fees to systems that would add his channel to their line up. Around the same time that Fox News was launching, CNN was being sold, along with the rest of the Turner media services, to Time Warner. As part of a consent decree allowing that transaction to move forward, Time Warner agreed to carry a second news channel. Originally, it looked like that channel was going to be MSNBC (which also had just been launched out of the ashes of a channel called "America's Talking&quot . But after additional litigation, a settlement was reached that resulted in Fox News being added to the bulk of Time Warner Cable's systems over a five year period.

Fast forward again. During the Bush years, Fox News' ratings surge and it becomes a channel that most cable and satellite companies feel is a 'must have' channel (along with channels such as CNN, ESPN, etc etc). As the original carriage agreements come up for renewal, the shoe is on the other foot -- instead of being paid by Fox, cable and satellite companies now have to turn around and pay, dearly, to keep Fox News on their line ups. Fox (like other companies that own both broadcast and non-broadcast networks) also takes advantage of its right to demand payment for carriage of its broadcast network (with popular sports and entertainment programming) by bundling those rights with rights to channels like Fox News to further ratchet up the payment.


(60,010 posts)
36. Our local hospital has Fox on the tv in the waiting room.
Tue May 1, 2012, 07:21 PM
May 2012

Completely empty room on the ICU floor, tv blaring. I had to be in that room while a family member was being seen in ICU.

I turned it to Nat Geo channel, turned volume down. After a few minutes someone else came into the waiting room
and stared at the tube, then asked if I minded if they changed the channel.
I told them only hospital staff were allowed to touch it.


(47,832 posts)
2. I hope they get the message
Tue May 1, 2012, 03:45 PM
May 2012

For all those who speak out about the programming, there are usually countless others who will just leave and not come back.

Trying to sit and eat while FOX News is playing is my idea of torture.


(47,832 posts)
22. Its really scary
Tue May 1, 2012, 04:17 PM
May 2012

I think most of them are completely brainwashed and they no longer respond to reason of any kind. Chilling.



(11,076 posts)
8. Hmmmm.
Tue May 1, 2012, 03:52 PM
May 2012

Now that would be fun! Worth the laugh!! If it happened often enough maybe they would get the hint!

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
10. A temporary fix, unfortunately.
Tue May 1, 2012, 03:53 PM
May 2012

If I were not so opposed to destructive actions, I would offer a low-tech solution"


(32,117 posts)
38. It's a TV zapper.
Tue May 1, 2012, 08:08 PM
May 2012

Last edited Tue May 1, 2012, 10:05 PM - Edit history (1)

It's basically a small remote control that allows you to change channels and/or turn of a TV set. They're small enough that you can surreptitiously alter what is on a TV set in a restaurant, waiting room, or whatever.


(60,010 posts)
39. Oh goodie whompers.
Tue May 1, 2012, 08:27 PM
May 2012

Will it turn off the damn talking boxes they have installed all over supermarkets now???
I hate those things..feel so offended by the mentality behind them.


(32,117 posts)
40. I don't know.
Tue May 1, 2012, 08:35 PM
May 2012

The talking boxes haven't made it to the supermarkets in my area. From the sound of it, I hope they never do.


(60,010 posts)
41. It is like walking past dozens of tv commercials
Tue May 1, 2012, 09:36 PM
May 2012

at the ends of each aisle, a small flat screen commercial is playing over and over and over

I do not have tv or radio, by choice.
Those damn boxes in the stores drive me starkers.
I hope you are spared the hell of it.


(15,056 posts)
9. When the local manager told you it only played Fox, you should have left. . .
Tue May 1, 2012, 03:52 PM
May 2012

told her you were going elsewhere for lunch, and why.

That's the only way to be certain the message gets across.

The only thing a corporation hears that's louder than a cash register is a cash register that's silent.



(11,076 posts)
17. This store is owned by local people with multiple stores.
Tue May 1, 2012, 04:09 PM
May 2012

They have a manager over all of their stores. He is the fellow that I called. The young woman behind the counter with the manager badge did not seem to be too savvy.

I agree with you about corporate. I noticed twenty years ago that Wendy's do not have trash cans outside of their buildings. I wrote to corporate and let them know that like it or not they were in the litter business and needed to supply trash cans for their customers. I got the traditional 'thanks for sharing' letter back from them.

Fast forward twenty years and Wendy's finally built a store in our community. The first day of business I walked in and asked for the manager. I welcomed him and let him know that he had moved into our neighborhood and they would need trash cans outside. We got them and still have them! After a recent remodel the cans were removed and so many people complained that the cans returned in a week!

Corporate will cut costs and cut away at the fabric of our communities without a blink. Good thing to remember.



(11,076 posts)
21. While some of the food will kill you ...
Tue May 1, 2012, 04:16 PM
May 2012

There are a few things that won't. The thing about this store is that the workers are young and old and working three jobs and raising grandchildren and taking radiation treatments and still coming to work. My eyes have been opened to just what is going on in our country by visiting this store. These folks are real. If you ever want to know how our country is doing stop in and see what is really real.



(15,189 posts)
12. That doesn't make for a good
Tue May 1, 2012, 03:58 PM
May 2012

Working environment. I worked at a place that had Faux Noise on in the break room. I just never really used the break room. I did mention the weather channel a few times. Funny thing, a guy who worked at that place was named George Bush. We used to bicker over politics all the time. He of course was a Repuke. We would always joke around for the most part. But it could cause hard feelings towards co-workers, and it doesn't belong in the work place.

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
15. There is only one way the local Wendy's gets Fox and no way to change the channel.
Tue May 1, 2012, 04:06 PM
May 2012

The TV is on a closed circuit. And I think that would be implausible, especially if the other Wendy's restaurants owned by the same person don't have the TVs.

Fox is a cable news network. It's not broadcast as far as I know. I'm here in Dallas, and if it were broadcast locally, I'm sure I would be getting it over my antenna. I know I get the local Fox channel with local news, but I don't think they broadcast any Fox News television shows. Maybe Fox and Friends, the morning show -- I'd have to check. And the locals would get ready-made stories from Fox News and Fox Business. And I know I get like 48 other channels over the antenna here in Dallas, so there's always another station to watch.

But if they are showing full-blown Fox News, there's a cable box somewhere in that building.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
16. The box may have something akin to
Tue May 1, 2012, 04:08 PM
May 2012

parental controls on it that allows no other channel.

Could be the owner... could be an agreement with Faux.

Sounds fishy, either way.

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
20. Parental controls on the cable box, didn't think of that.
Tue May 1, 2012, 04:16 PM
May 2012

I remember when Jack in the Box put a lot of TVs in their restaurants, but they had a special closed circuit. I think they were doing it over the Internet. But that was all Jack in the Box ads, and special content developed for them.

Maybe I'll wander down to my local Wendy's and see if there have been any "improvements."


(50,048 posts)
28. Yep. It's deliberate.
Tue May 1, 2012, 05:19 PM
May 2012

There is a cable box and all the other channels have been blocked deliberately. The owners and/or management only want Fox.


(42,785 posts)
18. Piss on Wendy's
Tue May 1, 2012, 04:12 PM
May 2012

I need them a lot less than they need me. They can go to Faux hell.

Ed: Thanks for the heads up. I'll know to stay away from now on.


(147 posts)
19. McDonald's also
Tue May 1, 2012, 04:14 PM
May 2012

There are two McDonald's in the town I live in and both refuse to play anything but Fox News. I know because I have asked and been told that is what the franchise owner wants broadcast. It was the same in the gastroenterologist office I used to go to. I say exercise your right to not be propagandized. Get up, tell them why and go somewhere else.


(1,635 posts)
23. I find it truly amazing that
Tue May 1, 2012, 04:24 PM
May 2012

people have become so impressionable that merely having a news report from an unfavorable source during the time that it takes to consume a hamburger is of such a danger that they cannot be subjected to it without having to protest and raise fuss.
Eat at home lest ye be led astray.



(11,076 posts)
25. *ox is not news.
Tue May 1, 2012, 04:37 PM
May 2012

It is propaganda and it is everywhere. If you have ever seen someone who is addicted to *ox you would understand. We have had our country destroyed by this kind of crap and the fight to put it back together is much tougher when this bull is mainstreamed.

Think about it. It is in hotel lobbies, restaurants, bars, doctor's offices, hospital waiting rooms and more. It is not news and it is not accountable to the truth!

I have a family member who is addicted to it. She will not stay at my home because we block the crap. She is unable to listen to regular 'news' without throwing a fit. Really, these people are suffering from the slant. They vote against themselves time and again because they do not know anything but *ox.


(42,785 posts)
26. You have heard this is an election year have you not?
Tue May 1, 2012, 04:39 PM
May 2012

And are you aware Faux News is the propaganda outlet for the RNC?

Please try to pay attention.



(1,635 posts)
30. Aparently you
Tue May 1, 2012, 05:37 PM
May 2012

pay too much attention. If I repeat something a half a dozen times while you are sucking down a Dave's Hot 'N Juicy 1/2 lb. Double will you do it?


(14,910 posts)
32. I think that you miss that by being a member of DU, many of us are very astute followers of politics
Tue May 1, 2012, 06:05 PM
May 2012

This is not the case with the average electorate as a whole.

As was previously mentioned, FauxNews is merely a propaganda outlet for the RNC which is deliberately aimed at those types of voters.

So maybe not YOU or the above member may not believe it during the time it takes to consume a 1/2 Double, perhaps some will...

This is why this is noteworthy, imo.


(13,776 posts)
35. I wouldn't want to hear that crap while I was trying to enjoy myself
Tue May 1, 2012, 06:43 PM
May 2012

It's not just that I object to not having a choice about hearing right-wing propaganda while I eat (or breathe); I hate jazz too (sorry, jazz lovers, I'm a philistine) and I wouldn't eat at a restaurant that played it.

I wouldn't mind listening to MSNBC at a Wendy's, but I don't think it's good business to have it on in a restaurant, either. Why would a business owner deliberately annoy even a tiny percentage of its potential clientele?

guitar man

(15,996 posts)
45. Rotten bastards
Tue May 1, 2012, 10:20 PM
May 2012

They've got it set up as a Volksempfänger

Volksempfängers were inexpensive radios that would receive nazi propaganda and very little else. They are attempting a 21st century version of this tactic by shoving faux noise in everywhere they can. Goebbels would be so proud.



(11,076 posts)
47. I'll take this nugget of knowledge with me when I follow up next week!
Tue May 1, 2012, 11:37 PM
May 2012

Thanks. It seems that Shooter and his pals have used no original thought in any of this.

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