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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 08:40 PM Feb 2015

Emma Thompson And Husband Greg Wise REFUSE TO PAY TAXES Until Richest Banks Pay Their Fair Share






Two time Academy Award winner Emma Thompson and her husband, Greg Wise, say they will not pay their taxes until HSBC, the world’s second largest bank, pays theirs. The HSBC’s Swiss banking sector was recently discovered to have helped wealthy customers get out of paying their fair share of taxes by hiding large amounts of cash in secret accounts. The bank also laundered hundreds of millions of dollars to Mexican drug cartels. Thompson and Wise are calling BS on the British government until HSBC (which is headquartered in London) executives are prosecuted for tax avoidance schemes. Speaking to the London Evening Standard:

“I want to stop paying tax, until everyone pays tax. I have actively loved paying tax, because I am a profound fucking socialist and I believe we are all in it together. But I am disgusted with HMRC. I am disgusted with HSBC. And I’m not paying a penny more until those evil bastards go to prison.”

http://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/i-wont-pay-a-penny-of-tax-until-those-evil-b-go-to-prison-greg-wise-on-politics-passion-and-parenting-10066684.html


When conservatives here in America don’t want to pay taxes, it’s because they think they are entitled to not contribute to the nation that gave them so much. When a “profound f*cking socialist” doesn’t want to pay taxes, it’s because wealthy, entitled, greedy pigs don’t want to contribute. Wise went on to say that Thompson agrees with him and that the pair are prepare to go to jail if necessary:

“Em’s on board. She agrees. We’re going to get a load of us together. A movement. They can’t send everyone to prison. But we’ll go to prison if necessary. I mean it. It’s going to be like 1848 all over again. HSBC haven’t even been slapped on the wrist because of this beautiful grey area between avoidance and evasion. It’s iniquitous. We need to do something—come on!”

For those of you who may not know, in 1848, populist uprisings swept across Europe which became the Revolution of 1848 or Springtime of the Peoples. With over 50 nations participating, Europe fought for freedoms in the press, worker’s rights, the destruction of the old feudal structure, the abolition of serfdom (economic slavery), and the dissolution of absolute monarchy. Thompson and Wise, who said, “I sound like Russell f*cking Brand, don’t I?” are prepared to start another uprising if it means making the wealthy pay their faire share. It is because of these injustices, Wise says, there is no such thing as a democracy.

“ Injustice is the thing that makes me more angry than anything — whether it’s someone being hassled in the street to HSBC getting away with this. I’m the least violent man you’ve ever met but I will plough into fights in the street to stop someone being set upon. Days afterwards I’m a mess because I hate violence. But I cannot see injustice.







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http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/02/28/emma-thompson-and-husband-greg-wise-refuse-to-pay-taxes-until-richest-banks-pay-their-fair-share/
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Emma Thompson And Husband Greg Wise REFUSE TO PAY TAXES Until Richest Banks Pay Their Fair Share (Original Post) Segami Feb 2015 OP
"..In the United States,.. Segami Feb 2015 #1
One of the most interesting developments since Ferguson malaise Feb 2015 #2
You mean those Hollywood Liberals busterbrown Feb 2015 #18
I have always loved her. I LOVE HER! roguevalley Mar 2015 #29
understand, almost all of them come from us, the 99% roguevalley Mar 2015 #30
Bravo for these 2 Brits, what courage & fantastic news. Hope this circulates & stays posted. appalachiablue Feb 2015 #3
This is amazing! Hope they don't get crushed. elias49 Feb 2015 #4
K&R ReRe Feb 2015 #5
Not paying taxes is a wonderful idea for protesting the oligarchy Jack Rabbit Feb 2015 #6
+10 appalachiablue Mar 2015 #23
I think there is a legal way to do this involving Skidmore Mar 2015 #25
If I may hazard a guess, that doesn't sound right Jack Rabbit Mar 2015 #27
Even better, put your "taxes due" into an off-shore account erronis Mar 2015 #33
That's not gonna help! Scuba Feb 2015 #7
Good for them!!!! Sheelanagig Feb 2015 #8
Welcome to DU, Sheelanagig! calimary Mar 2015 #37
A human being with a HUGE heart that is in the right place madokie Mar 2015 #42
Thanks, calimary! I admire both Emma Thompson and Greg Wise. Sheelanagig Mar 2015 #47
bet prison will be vastly different then the lifestyle they are currently living. nt littlewolf Feb 2015 #9
I doubt it will get that far, but obxhead Mar 2015 #24
i would rather their money and possessions stripped from their greedy hands. ALL OF IT. pansypoo53219 Feb 2015 #10
I Always Liked Her, But Like Her More Now colsohlibgal Feb 2015 #11
Yup - my thoughts too. erronis Mar 2015 #34
Bravo for Emma. Great actress, great person. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #12
Bravo to Emma Thompson for using her elevated soapbox KauaiK Feb 2015 #13
Good for them, BUT... penndragon69 Feb 2015 #14
When wealthy people stand up for Socialism there is hope George Osborne Feb 2015 #15
..HE HE HE HE HE HE... Bohemianwriter Feb 2015 #16
Bravo Emma! smirkymonkey Feb 2015 #17
Love Emma. progressoid Mar 2015 #19
Excellent, we've been talking about this for a long time. Now someone is willing to do it so sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #20
Right on! Kath1 Mar 2015 #21
this could be compared druidity33 Mar 2015 #22
What if a few million people did the same? Might that make something happen?? Maineman Mar 2015 #26
"I am a profound fucking socialist and I believe we are all in it together. " WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2015 #28
Slaves don't get to not pay tax. DeSwiss Mar 2015 #31
+1 whereisjustice Mar 2015 #36
Meh. A couple of 1%ers refusing to pay their taxes doesn't impress me nt geek tragedy Mar 2015 #32
Huh? shenmue Mar 2015 #39
Oh dear, the third way folks have their frowny faces on... :( whereisjustice Mar 2015 #35
Loves me some Emma Thompson shenmue Mar 2015 #38
Excellent Aerows Mar 2015 #40
They be goin to the slam tomsaiditagain Mar 2015 #41
bullshit. They just don't want to pay taxes still_one Mar 2015 #43
Bravo, Emma... americannightmare Mar 2015 #44
I'm not impressed. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #45
k&r johnnyreb Mar 2015 #46
I....don't...get....it? Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2015 #48
 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
1. "..In the United States,..
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 08:53 PM
Feb 2015
"....we have had to sadly accept the fact that the bankers and their too-big-to-fail businesses are simply untouchable. Sadly, people who don’t report $200 to the IRS are scrutinized more than companies that cheat the tax system out of billions of dollars. Looks like Thompson and Wise like to put their money where their mouths are...."

malaise

(269,526 posts)
2. One of the most interesting developments since Ferguson
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 09:09 PM
Feb 2015

is the way that athletes and entertainers have suddenly joined the side of the 99%.
It's lovely to watch.
Earlier this week Wisconsin NFL players condemned the 'right to work' laws.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
18. You mean those Hollywood Liberals
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 11:39 PM
Feb 2015

and ignorant athletes who don’t understand how the world really works..Just ask all those at CPAC last week.. Or as I will now refer to them as the Nuremburg Rallies..

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
29. I have always loved her. I LOVE HER!
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 04:25 PM
Mar 2015

That is how we will defeat the fuckers. GO, EMMA! You are still my hero.

Another 'fucking socialist' and radical left winger,

Me

appalachiablue

(41,263 posts)
3. Bravo for these 2 Brits, what courage & fantastic news. Hope this circulates & stays posted.
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 09:20 PM
Feb 2015
KEEP CALM AND CARRY ON, EMMA & GREG
 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
4. This is amazing! Hope they don't get crushed.
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 09:21 PM
Feb 2015

But the cat's out of the bag...I loved this:

"...I am a profound fucking socialist and I believe we are all in it together..."

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
5. K&R
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 09:36 PM
Feb 2015

There's a revolution for ya! Couple it with rolling general strikes, and we just might turn the world around.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
6. Not paying taxes is a wonderful idea for protesting the oligarchy
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 09:40 PM
Feb 2015

So are general strikes.

Oh, those things are against the law? So is bribing congressmen, and the fact that the bribe called a campaign contribution makes no substantive difference. Oh, but the Chief Justice said in Citizens United . . . ? That crooked shyster said what? Nothing he says should be taken seriously.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
25. I think there is a legal way to do this involving
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 03:01 PM
Mar 2015

informing the IRS by letter and putting any taxes you owe in an escrow account. At least that used to be the case a while back.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
27. If I may hazard a guess, that doesn't sound right
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 04:13 PM
Mar 2015

The government wants that money now.

Even if it were the case, we should expect it to change. The agenda of the oligarchs is to avoid taxes by shifting the burden on to the rest of us.

Which brings us back to why a tax strike is a good idea. Not only do the oligarch want to shift that burden to the lower classes, but they don't want the lower classes to complain. The most obvious way the people can complain is to vote for progressive, populist candidates. Therefore, obstacles to voting are put in place with fear of voter fraud given as the reason. Even if the statistics show that few charges for voter fraud are brought against anyone, the oligarchs' spokesmen will go on teevee and repeat the charge over and over again without making any attempt to disprove what the statistics strongly suggest, viz., that voter fraud is not a serious problem.

How is this not taxation without representation?

Of course, the establishment will say this is illegal and blah, blah, blah. Of course it is. Whit part of massive civil disobedience do they not understand?

erronis

(15,526 posts)
33. Even better, put your "taxes due" into an off-shore account
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 04:38 PM
Mar 2015

See if you can't find a nice safe haven like the big boys do (RMoney, HSBC, CorpAmer, politicians). If not a safe haven, perhaps you can have your "salary/earnings" paid in Cayman/Swiss/Irish coin.

Perhaps something like income/payment in bitcoin would correct the imbalance where the rich can play the game and the rest of us have to wanna be.

calimary

(81,648 posts)
37. Welcome to DU, Sheelanagig!
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 05:01 PM
Mar 2015

Glad you're here! I don't know if it'll work or not, but I LOVE seeing this! And I LOVE Emma Thompson, just anyway. HUGELY talented actress/screenwriter and a human being with a HUGE heart, too.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
42. A human being with a HUGE heart that is in the right place
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 07:15 PM
Mar 2015

sounds like a winner to me. Lets get this movement under way

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
24. I doubt it will get that far, but
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 02:52 PM
Mar 2015

Kudos to them for standing up the the intentionally flawed system.

pansypoo53219

(21,021 posts)
10. i would rather their money and possessions stripped from their greedy hands. ALL OF IT.
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 10:27 PM
Feb 2015

let them have 'cake'. send them to somalia.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
11. I Always Liked Her, But Like Her More Now
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 10:29 PM
Feb 2015

It's time to really go after the plutocracy, here or abroad, enough is enough.

erronis

(15,526 posts)
34. Yup - my thoughts too.
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 04:43 PM
Mar 2015

You have to wonder how many bright lights like Emma Thompson and other intelligent people aren't horrified by what has happened to the equity spread - the distance between the poor and the rich. Probably most of them don't like the fact that they have to make their $millions on the backs of peasants like us, but they also don't want to offend their $billion patrons.

Kudos to Emma and many other "personalties" that are trying to get some fairness back into common people's lives.

 

penndragon69

(788 posts)
14. Good for them, BUT...
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 11:01 PM
Feb 2015

How much money do THEY have hidden away to avoid taxes ??
Rich people with good accountants can say almost anything
and not worry about being effected.

 

George Osborne

(13 posts)
15. When wealthy people stand up for Socialism there is hope
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 11:15 PM
Feb 2015

Many of the uninformed think those in need of public assistance are leaches. One of the Tory's major talking points in the UK and US Republicans.

Emma Thompson is a great actress and an even greater Lady. And to be perfectly clear, if there was a vote most people in the UK would love to see the end of the Royals, who along with the Bankers are the true leaches on that society.

In the USA, UK, New Zealand socialism, not the corporate kind has proven to benefit all, it created the middle class that is now being destroyed by the fascists who have spent the last century ripping apart.

Time to turn guns into plows and false promises into butter, or something like that.

 

Bohemianwriter

(978 posts)
16. ..HE HE HE HE HE HE...
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 11:15 PM
Feb 2015

And HSBC.

I think I still owe them more than a thousand pounds from an old bank acct. I had with them when working in Belfast years ago.

Good luck in finding them assholes!

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
20. Excellent, we've been talking about this for a long time. Now someone is willing to do it so
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 02:55 AM
Mar 2015

publicly. I hope many more join them and that they put the money in escro so they cannot be prosecuted. Good for them. I love FIGHTERS.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
21. Right on!
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 07:22 AM
Mar 2015
"I have actively loved paying tax, because I am a profound fucking socialist and I believe we are all in it together."

Love it!



We need to do this in the U.S.

druidity33

(6,453 posts)
22. this could be compared
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 08:13 AM
Mar 2015

to "hostage-taking" (hostage being the money) or "terrorism" (witholding unless demands are met). If everyone did it for the right reasons, i could condone it. But i could see the idea sweeping across an already devastated population pretty quickly. Taxes pretty much enable our gov't to function. I approved of the War Tax resistors, but they mostly intentionally kept their income below Fed taxation levels. If every "disgusted with our gov't" individual decided they weren't gonna pay taxes b/c {insert individual issue with gov't here}, the shit would start to roll downhill pretty quick.

And yes, i realize there are already sovereign idiots out there and grifters and scammers and people with accountants... but what if most regular people just stopped paying?


WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
28. "I am a profound fucking socialist and I believe we are all in it together. "
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 04:14 PM
Mar 2015

No triangulation in that... how refreshing. We can't even get many Democrats in this country to announce they're proud to be members of the Democratic Party. Or to state that they voted for the current Democratic president, and proudly so. Oh, they can turn it on at slick conventions every four years, but the in-between years leave A LOT to be desired.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
31. Slaves don't get to not pay tax.
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 04:27 PM
Mar 2015
- The only way to avoid paying tax, is to become FREE.

K&R

The petty right and the bumbling left find themselves unexpectedly meeting one another these days, as they navigate the craters of our bombed out economic landscape.

Were it not for the ideological war in progress (it's not a cultural war, no matter what the university pundits say, it's a capitalist state sponsored ideological war), they would probably form a powerful combined populist movement that would scare Washington right out of its silk shorts. Naturally, political strategists on both sides do everything possible to keep the rank and file from discovering the growing overlap of liberal and conservative thinking (or in some cases, nonthinking).

Not many working people on either side still believe that what is good for Wall Street is good for Main Street, or that very much trickles down from Wall Street to our level. No matter how much money we sweat for, or borrow -- or Congress borrows in our name without ever asking us -- and throw at Wall Street, the money sticks up there on the fortieth floor.

Then it disappears into that bizarro funhouse mirror of the real economy, the virtual economy -- euphemistically called banking and investment and the market. Our market system of "investment" is based upon getting in at the right moment, grabbing other people's money, then getting out fast. Which pretty much describes the key elements a bank heist.

From Wall Street To Skank Street
RIP - Joe Bageant, (1946-2011)


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NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
45. I'm not impressed.
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 07:31 PM
Mar 2015

If I declared I wasn't going to pay taxes for any reason, I would go to prison and most people would be glad. A rich Hollywood type decides she's not going to pay taxes, and people seem to think she hung the moon.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,237 posts)
48. I....don't...get....it?
Mon Mar 2, 2015, 01:25 PM
Mar 2015

Because she's upset that HSBC avoids taxes, she's going to avoid paying taxes as well?

That's just an odd position to take.

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