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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsObama supporters, Obama detractors. Here's my prediction for 2012.
He's gonna make it to the other side for a second term. Deal with it.
ThomWV
(19,841 posts)Amerigo Vespucci
(30,885 posts)Welcome to my ignore list, loudmouth.
"What a rude and pointless post."
And your calling me out ISN'T?
"Congratulations, you've set the low mark for the morning."
Welcome to my ignore list, crybaby.
Maybe you missed the comments yesterday aimed at those who dared call out the newest anti-Obama poster darling Matt Damon...
Jakes Progress
(11,123 posts)lillypaddle
(9,581 posts)kick
theaocp
(4,245 posts)Nobody gonna shut the fuck up on a message board. Deal with it.
Amerigo Vespucci
(30,885 posts)Jesus, have a fucking bran muffin and lighten up, Francis.
theaocp
(4,245 posts)I honestly didn't expect you to make the connection. Feel free and relax now. BTW, where's your sig picture of the lady on the mountain top? Your posts aren't the same without it. Cheers.
Number23
(24,544 posts)Enrique
(27,461 posts)I think everyone here wants Obama to win.
Amerigo Vespucci
(30,885 posts)So I guess the "deal with it" remark was addressed to DU's own "one percent" club...the ones who would be OK with President Gingrich or President Romney.
tridim
(45,358 posts)But I would say 99% here want Obama to win.
Amerigo Vespucci
(30,885 posts)I do believe it's 1%...and I have read the posts from that group. Like I said, the "deal with it" remark was addressed to that group, and that group only.
well-played.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)like a Republican and all the rest of the ultra-left out-of-reality purist nonsense. Plenty of recs for the Matt Damon thing about "rather would have a one-termer with 'balls' ", and purists saying they will not vote or whatever for whatever unhinged reason, just as they did in 2010 to "punish the Dems" and now have the pathetic gall to whine tens times louder now that the TeaNuts are in office.
Obama will most likely win re-election, and the purists need to re-visit their middle school civics lessons, get their heads onto the planet and realize Obama has passed the largest amount of PROGRESSIVE legislation since LBJ, and count their frigging blessings and realize it will be Obama or the RePUKE. The world is not a matter of ideal purity. Never was, never will be. They need to get onto the planet, support Obama, and put their money, mouths, and energy right there to defeat RePUKES and the TeaNuts.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)who actually oppose the rights of others are engaged in something that outpaces hate, as their policy seeks to keep the law from allowing rights for those they hold prejudice against. So. What is the OP's suggested word for those who openly oppose the equal rights of others? Are they also 'haters who gotta hate' or are they something worse? I'd say worse. Far worse.
Sick shit. Mean and without foundation.
Claiming that to 'support' a politician, one must not criticize them when they are insanely wrong is to shit on one's duties as a citizen.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Amerigo Vespucci
(30,885 posts)Projecting much?
Welcome to my ignore list.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)You heard my opinion. Your OP is without content, it is not specific, and frankly, I see nothing in it that offers any sort of 'support' for the President, who of course needs and wants the entire Party with him. Why try to make tidy segments out of the Party and DU? Who gains from that?
Tell me how, specifically, posting this sort of thing 'supports Obama'. And make a good case, as I think this sort of post is detrimental to the health of the Party, DU and thus, not supporting of any of our Democratic candidates. What aspects of your OP are 'support' and what results helpful to the President or other Democrats would you hope to see come from a post such as this one? I see it as pointless and petty, unhelpful to the President. Explain why you see this as 'support'. Please. Since you are so passionate I'm sure you can explain your goals with these tactics. Share them with us all.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)And you decided to snark and snipe instead of engaging or answering the question. This makes me think the question is an uncomfortable one for you. I'm sure others think the same thing.
If you come at others with harsh language, and you get some harsh criticism, that is to be expected. There are no special rules to protect your lexicon.
Jakes Progress
(11,123 posts)That's how he excuses avoiding any responsibility for his silly snarks.
Golly. If only I could get on that list.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Though great progress has been made, and would be reversed by Republicans - logically you should be a huge cheerleader of the President.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)and I challenge it, clearly. I do not cheer lead, I assist, as in a Democracy, we are on a team, we are participants, not an audience.
Logically, when you get an official who is willing to listen and respond the thing to do is make use of that excellent official. I'd point out to you that my community has in fact made progress during this administration, and that all of that got done while much criticism flew. Oh, what the DOJ said, then what Choi said, how could they say such things? Then we repealed the thing. Accomplishment for the President, certainly, a great one. Do you think, honestly, that he is concerned with the feather that flew on the way to repeal? I am sure the President counts that as a process that worked. I am sure he is thankful to all who put in work and made sacrifices to make that repeal possible. Including those who protested him on this issue. We got it done.
Can you name an accomplishment of his that came out of a community that does nothing other than praise him? So who helped him accomplish, and how was that done? Did 'cheer leaders' (you word, not mine) make political progress on an issue? The 'critics' sure as hell did.
Had we all sat there agreeing with all he or DOJ did, repeal was less likely. The rhetoric was and is just a way of playing politics. The President is not unable to deal with me soundly disagreeing with that opinion. I see him as the sort of person who has little respect for those who do not speak their own minds and seek their own goals.
So yes, sir, I take huge issue with anyone who claims that Democrats need to support all policy or refuse to criticize bad policy when it comes from Democrats. No one, hear me friend, no one has standing to question me and my place in this Party, no one. I will not stand aside and allow some segment of the Party to declare that one must agree with 'Sanctity of Newt's Marriage' in order to support our ticket of nominees. This means that criticism of that idea and the legal expressions of that idea are not going to stop. This is not a Party that is only for those who are fine to hang around and wait for equality. It is a Party for all of us, and no one gets to declare that their way, style or opinions are defining features of a Democrat. Claiming that one segment is THE supporters is disgusting. Segmenting the President's Party is a bad idea. Attempting to define supporting his election as supporting all he says or does is a huge electoral gaff. In my opinion, most who take up the segmenting idea, 'Supporters and Critics' do so out of personal self indulgence. I see no moral high ground earned from nodding along right or wrong. It is in fact, morally wrong to support policy that is wrong or to try to quash criticism of wrong headed or ignorant policy, such as 'Newt is Sanctified but Rachel's not'. It is NOT required that all who wish to elect a candidate agree with all he says or does.
In closing, friend, my Father taught me how to be a good Democrat. My Mother too, and my other elders, long ago. It is not for any one segment of this Party to claim to hold superior 'support' for the Party than another, that is poison. You get one ballot, I get one. Equal. That's just how it is, although some wish to claim the President as part of their territory.
The world is a huge place, and in my quarters I am seen as a really traditional Democrat while others are less Party oriented, some are Greens....I am the center in this world. Hard to imagine? Well, that's why they say 'big tent' and 'it takes all kinds'.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Amerigo Vespucci
(30,885 posts)Got it?
"LOL"
Logical
(22,457 posts)RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Word!
treestar
(82,383 posts)There is going to be a lot of cheerleading.
Heck it is needed for a "base" so allegedly easily depressed.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)to our community at DU. That was the OP. And your responses in the thread are worse, just personal petty words free of political content. Without ideas, without so much as a talking point to make.
None of us are here to please others. Most of us are here to discuss Democratic politics, and all of this clique nonsense and the idea that some segment of Democrats gets to declare that they are THE Supporters and then get surly with others using that self proclaimed status as excuse is nothing but raging ego on the part of that segment attempting to somehow own the Party and the process. This sort of thing is not 'for the President' it is 'for the OP's pleasure'. Jollies. A facade of 'support' used to hide an entire structure of snark.
So I am not impressed with folks who shout 'hate' from some comfy place where they do not actually face the real thing. Such people think hate if a fun term to toss like a nerf ball. They are not correct.
MjolnirTime
(1,800 posts)Jakes Progress
(11,123 posts)I think he's going for a record and MPP award. Most Pointless Poster.
Now can I get on that list.
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tridim
(45,358 posts)Can I go to the one in Kenya?
MjolnirTime
(1,800 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)OhioChick
(23,218 posts)MjolnirTime
(1,800 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Not being able to hold his feet to the fire!
Since they believe it is all a matter of rewarding an individual (and not a matter of what is best for the country).
Lyric
(12,675 posts)Do you think criticism of Obama from the left will stop soon for some reason? I seriously doubt that.
great white snark
(2,646 posts)Much, much more needs to be done and President Obama has earned the right to be the man for the job. Four more years!
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)great white snark
(2,646 posts)tex-wyo-dem
(3,190 posts)Which is a good thing.
He's our best choice....
Which ain't sayin' much.
Hmmm...Corporate lovin', occationally progressive leaning democrat, or batshit crazy RW knucklehead....decisions, decisions
gateley
(62,683 posts)Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)that with all the Republican obstruction that been going on and all the B.S. the GOP has been trying to pull that he thought that there was even the possibility of the Democrats taking back The House and gaining seats in The Senate.
I was only half listening, I wish I knew what channel it was on and who said it.
denbot
(9,901 posts)A win is a win..