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Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 09:50 AM Feb 2015

14 Different Methods of Mass Mind Control

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Can you select how many of these methods have been deployed in America?

The Secret of Undetectable Mind Control



http://www.knowledgeoftoday.org/2012/02/illuminati-secret-hidden-from-masses.html

In his address before the American Newspaper Publishers Association, John F. Kennedy talked about 'a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy' that rules the world. That speech was apparently the one that sealed his fate.

Selected Transcript of John F. Kennedy's Address before the American Newspaper Publishers Association, April 27, 1961:

“The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it.

Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it.

<And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment.>

That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control. And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know.

For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations. Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. Without debate, without criticism, no Administration and no country can succeed-- and no republic can survive. That is why the Athenian lawmaker Solon decreed it a crime for any citizen to shrink from controversy.

***And that is why our press was protected by the First (emphasized) Amendment-- the only business in America specifically protected by the Constitution--***

-- not primarily to amuse and entertain, not to emphasize the trivial and sentimental, not to simply "give the public what it wants"--but to inform, to arouse, to reflect, to state our dangers and our opportunities, to indicate our crises and our choices, to lead, mold educate and sometimes even anger public opinion. This means greater coverage and analysis of international news-- for it is no longer far away and foreign but close at hand and local. It means greater attention to improved understanding of the news as well as improved transmission.

And it means, finally, that government at all levels, must meet its obligation to provide you with the fullest possible information outside the narrowest limits of national security... And so it is to the printing press--to the recorder of mans deeds, the keeper of his conscience, the courier of his news-- that we look for strength and assistance, confident that with your help man will be what he was born to be: free and independent.”

Read More: http://www.knowledgeoftoday.org/2011/12/new-world-order-exposed-john-f-kennedy.html

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To me Greenwald and Snowden are no more traitors to America than President Kennedy was - they all recognized and fought against the same foe - just 50 years apart.

In 1961, of course, the ultimate tool of mass mind manipulation was just dawning, in rectangular shades of flickering grey, and on three channels only, controlled by secret men in secret rooms pulling the levers of mind control - but all without accountability, with immunity from consequences, without the responsibility they agreed to bear by having their business enshrined in the First Amendment.

Kennedy was blessed with a great vision, he saw what the mind controllers saw, the dawning of a new technology, a massively powerful tool that would either be used to release people from their bonds of ignorance, or to enslave them even more.

When the Guardians of Democracy abandon The Watch of their Constitutionally gifted posts......then who will watch the watchmen?

These heroes of democracy are all paying, or have paid, the heavy price for simply agreeing with President Kennedy - and then daring to do something about it.

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GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
1. I think the point would be made better without "illuminati", "mind control" and "chaos sorcery"
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 10:32 AM
Feb 2015

Maybe I am reading this wrong but posts like this fail to acknowledge where we are now, 2015. For example that Alex Jones-esque PowerPoint slide leaves out the Panopticon effect of mass surveillance and secret government policies decided in secret courts.

Calling this stuff "mind control" is over the top -- with all of that list (although I have idea what "chaos sorcery" is) support for the invasion of Iraq never went above 48% (until troops were deployed). With all the messenger killing and character assassination, Glen Greenwald picked up an Oscar last night for Best Documentary. We aren't in North Korea. We are not zombies, most Americans know when they are being sold BS.

The good news is the ballot box may be broken but the youngest generation of Americans has discovered something more effective and more direct. They were told, as we were that you just vote every 4 years (for one of only 2 choices) and then take what comes but they do more:

-- WalMart announced that is is raising it's minimum wage in response to protests, boycotts and public outcry.
-- the Information Age has ushered in consumer empowerment to vote with your dollars based on information about where your money will go
-- Groups of youths are suing over government inaction on Climate Change

Any claims of "mind control" are greatly exaggerated and are insulting to the majority of Americans who can see through the bullshit AND do something about it.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
2. Walmart raised wages because it became glaringly evident the bottom line was hurting
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 10:42 AM
Feb 2015

Dubya was re-elected in 2004 despite practically everything he said or did being complete bullshit.

Some of your points are good but I think you are being overly optimistic.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
3. His point about "illuminati" is a good one, I would not have mentioned that except the link has it.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 10:44 AM
Feb 2015

Decided not to throw the baby out with the bath water, because everything else makes sense and is not conspiratorial, unless one believes President Kennedy was also conspiratorial.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
4. it is very likely that Dubya lost Ohio and therefore the 2004 election but
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 10:53 AM
Feb 2015

John Kerry conceded immediately and refused to join the suit to count the votes in Ohio but I suppose a different version of my point is: we don't live in 1961 -- options for media and communication are much greater and they are having impact by empowering individuals to join greater causes like boycotts, KickStarter campaigns and #BlackLivesMatter.

Portraying people as some kind of helpless victims of "mind control" expects and excuses their inaction in an era when empowerment of the individual is increasing.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
5. very good counterpoint. (posting to save OP for later) n/t
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 11:38 AM
Feb 2015

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
6. Drums Along The Potomac: How This Country Never Learns Anything | Charles Pierce
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 11:41 AM
Feb 2015

Excerpt:

"The Congress is going to debate how much leeway it should give the president to make war, not whether he should be allowed to do it at all. The elite media, having scared Americans to death by giving the barbarians and their slaughter porn the international platform the barbarians so desired, is jumping on board with both feet. (To cite only one example, Chris Matthews is suiting up again.) The country has been prepared to give its children up again. At the very least, public opinion on what we should do is a muddle, which means that any plan that looks "bold" likely will carry the country with it, unintended consequences be damned.With the intelligence all pointing toward bin Laden, Rumsfeld ordered the military to begin working on strike plans."

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a33248/drums-along-the-potomac-how-this-country-never-learns-anything/

Archae

(46,328 posts)
7. This web site is pure bullshit.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 11:47 AM
Feb 2015

Woo sales, conspiracy theories, wild accusations, the works.

"Mind control?"

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
8. Some folks said the same thing about Greenwald and Snowden...and Kennedy...read the OP, not the website...strawman.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 11:52 AM
Feb 2015

I no problem with critiques of the website....but do not tar and feather on things unrelated to the point of the OP.

Did you read Pierce's article..you also disagree with that, because it is the same opinion?

If this is all woo to you, fine..... there has to be many, many victims.

Archae

(46,328 posts)
10. I did.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 12:00 PM
Feb 2015

"Illuminati?"

"New World Order?"

"Mind control?"

"Microchipped and enslaved?"

"Free energy?

"Cancer industry?"

"Undetectable mind control?"

Pure...bullshit.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
11. Charles Pierce not some folks cup of tea, no problem.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 12:02 PM
Feb 2015

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
9. A Virus Called Fear - Award Winning Documentary
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 11:58 AM
Feb 2015

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
12. Locking...
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 12:07 PM
Feb 2015

A consensus of hosts agree this OP should be locked and posted in the Creative Speculation Group.

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