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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 02:39 PM Feb 2015

NYC Reporter's EPIC TAKEDOWN Of Rudy Giuliani's 'LOVE'






Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani's recent accusation that President Obama does not love America prompted a scathing takedown of the Republican politician's ideas about "love" from one of the journalists who knows him best. Journalist Wayne Barrett, a former reporter and editor of The Village Voice and the author of "Rudy: An Investigative Biography," left no embarrassing stone unturned in his epic takedown published by the New York Daily News. Turning Giuliani's words against him, Barrett reviewed the ex-mayor's spotted history with women, his consulting gigs for dictatorships, and his evasion of military service.



Take a peek at the op-ed:


Ask Regina Peruggi, the second cousin he grew up with and married, who was "offended" when Rudy later engineered an annulment from the priest who was his best man on the grounds, strangely enough, that she was his cousin. Or ask Donna Hanover, the mother of his two children, who found out he wanted a separation when he left Gracie Mansion one morning and announced it at a televised press conference.

Or ask Judi Nathan, his third wife, whom he started dating while still married to Hanover and New York mayor. In two SUVs, he and an entourage of six or seven cops traveled 11 times to Judi's Hamptons getaway at a taxpayer cost of $3,000 a trip. That's love.

Rudy knows so much about love that he declared the other day that President Obama "doesn't love you" and "doesn't love me" at a private party of GOP fat cats.

The onetime presidential candidate also revealed at the party that Obama "doesn't love America," an echo of a speech he'd delivered to delirious cheers in Arizona a week earlier when he declared: "I would go anywhere, any place, anytime, and I wouldn't give a damn what the President of the United States said, to defend my country. That's a patriot. That's a man who loves his people. That's a man who fights for his people. Unlike our President."

Rudy may have forgotten the half-dozen deferments he won ducking the Vietnam War, even getting the federal judge he was clerking for to write a letter creating a special exemption for him. And remember Bernie Kerik? He's the Giulaini police commissioner, business partner and sidekick whose nomination as homeland security secretary narrowly preceded indictments. He then did his national service in prison.





Giuliani went so far as to rebuke the President for not being "brought up the way you were and the way I was brought up through love of this country," a bow no doubt to the parenting prowess of Harold Giuliani, who did time in Sing Sing for holding up a Harlem milkman and was the bat-wielding enforcer for the loan-sharking operation run out of a Brooklyn bar owned by Rudy's uncle. Though Rudy cited Harold throughout his public life as his model (without revealing any of his history), he and five Rudy uncles found ways to avoid service in World War II. Harold, whose robbery conviction was in the name of an alias, made sure the draft board knew he was a felon. On the other hand, Obama's grandfather and uncle served. His uncle helped liberate Buchenwald, which apparently affected him so deeply he stayed in the family attic for six months when he returned home.


Read the whole thing at the New York Daily News.

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/wayne-barrett-rudy-giuliani-love-article-1.2122253





http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/rudy-giuliani-love-takedown-wayne-barrett
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NYC Reporter's EPIC TAKEDOWN Of Rudy Giuliani's 'LOVE' (Original Post) Segami Feb 2015 OP
Great that someone is calling out Giuliani. Need to see more of this. N/t livetohike Feb 2015 #1
There is nothing sweeter than ReTHUG mafia family values malaise Feb 2015 #2
K&R. n/t FSogol Feb 2015 #3
That was pretty damn epic arcane1 Feb 2015 #4
K&R Sherman A1 Feb 2015 #5
The Giuliani cousin.....another thug. Segami Feb 2015 #6
"...UPDATE: In addition to the travails of Papa Harold,.. Segami Feb 2015 #8
You know NewJeffCT Feb 2015 #16
Can you imagine the lunatic feeding frenzy Segami Feb 2015 #28
he loves America so much that he looks back on 9/11 with fondness Enrique Feb 2015 #7
Of the countless things liberalhistorian Feb 2015 #29
And isn't that ironic? maddiemom Feb 2015 #36
Ouch Bobbie Jo Feb 2015 #9
Rudy's love? douggg Feb 2015 #10
Cleanup on Aisle 911. Lots of blood. Bring a mop. nt DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #11
Ghouliani is a.... RoccoR5955 Feb 2015 #12
I read the entire article. Rudi is more of a scumbag then even I thought. If this article holds kelliekat44 Feb 2015 #13
K&R...Thanks for posting, Segami red dog 1 Feb 2015 #14
Rudolfino El Shaman Feb 2015 #15
Yes, his father was quite a role model: arrested as a LuckyLib Feb 2015 #17
Regarding Mayor Giuliani's upbringing and President Obama's upbringing chknltl Feb 2015 #18
Whoa. That is gonna leave a hifiguy Feb 2015 #19
Rudy crossed the line LynnTTT Feb 2015 #20
And Giuliani is the LAST person who should ever criticize anyone else's parents! markpkessinger Feb 2015 #24
Giuliani hasn't been right in the head since nichomachus Feb 2015 #21
hmmmm. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2015 #37
Talk about unpatriotic! In that photo, Giuliani's not wearing a flag pin. tclambert Feb 2015 #22
I'd just make one small correction... BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2015 #38
I posted excerpts from a 2000 article by Wayne Barrett yesterday . . . markpkessinger Feb 2015 #23
Rudy's big mouth being his own worst enemy.. keep it up Rudy.. the more you shovel the more dirt Cha Feb 2015 #25
Cracked actor . orpupilofnature57 Feb 2015 #26
Wow k&r B Calm Feb 2015 #27
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2015 #30
exposed! BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2015 #31
Nearly to a man, Republicans are weasels.* Enthusiast Feb 2015 #32
Compare President Obama's upbringing with the multi married, draft dodging, mobbed up Giuliani mikekohr Feb 2015 #33
Jeez, these people who live in glass houses. Rozlee Feb 2015 #34
Interesting. Thanks for the link. maddiemom Feb 2015 #35
Marrying his cousin? red dog 1 Feb 2015 #39

malaise

(270,481 posts)
2. There is nothing sweeter than ReTHUG mafia family values
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 02:48 PM
Feb 2015

This is how you deal with ReTHUG scumbags and draft dodgers. Get this thing of beauty to the greatest page immediately Send this everywhere.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
8. "...UPDATE: In addition to the travails of Papa Harold,..
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 03:33 PM
Feb 2015

".....Barrett's book is filled with scores of other Giuliani bombshells. For instance, Rudy's cousin Lewis D'Avanzo was a stone cold gangster who was shot to death in1977 by FBI agents when he tried to run them down with his car. According to these FBI records obtained by Barrett, D'Avanzo was a suspect in several homicides and racked up quite a rap sheet.

On the political front, Barrett obtained a voluminous "vulnerability study" commissioned by the Giuliani campaign during the 1993 New York mayoral race. The report's purpose was to identify--and help address--Giuliani weaknesses that might be seized on by the opposition. Rudy, of course, freaked when he saw the detailed (and quite prescient, as it turned out) report, ordering it destroyed. One copy survived, though, and landed in Barrett's hands. Here's the section on the "weirdness factor" inherent in Rudy's rather bizarre personal life...."


http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/investigation/book-em-exposing-papa-giuliani

NewJeffCT

(56,830 posts)
16. You know
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 04:52 PM
Feb 2015

I have some attractive cousins in my family, but never ever did I consider dating them, nor did I lust after them or anything like that.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
28. Can you imagine the lunatic feeding frenzy
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 12:45 AM
Feb 2015

from the hate-brigade if Obama was married to his cousin (for 15 years years)? Can you also imagine if he later engineered an annulment from the priest who was his best man, through the Roman Catholic Church to annul his marriage to his cousin on the grounds that they had not obtained a church dispensation for second cousins once removed to marry?.......


Rudy, is nothing more than a lying sack of filth......he's a very dangerous, sick mind who's allowed to aerate his hate-filled views.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
7. he loves America so much that he looks back on 9/11 with fondness
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 03:32 PM
Feb 2015

those were the good old days to patriots like Rudy.

liberalhistorian

(20,825 posts)
29. Of the countless things
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 01:37 AM
Feb 2015

to hate about Ghouli, that, for me, ranks right up there in the top five, if not number one. His relentless, obsessive "waving the burning towers", exploiting, using and manipulating one of our most horrific national tragedies for his own self-aggrandizement and the furthering of his own personal ambition. He cannot say two sentences without bringing it up, as Biden so aptly put it ("a noun, a verb and 911).

As a matter of fact, the republican party has been doing this for more than thirteen years now, merely using 911 as a tool for political and emotional exploitation and jingoistic, nationalistic posturing and chest thumping, and to get their never-ending war on. They don't give a nano pellet of rat shit about it otherwise.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
36. And isn't that ironic?
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 01:01 PM
Feb 2015

I can't help wondering how Al Gore, the rightfully elected POTUS, would have reacted to the infamous memo: "Osama determined to strike..." and all the other "in your face" forewarnings of 9/11.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
12. Ghouliani is a....
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 03:56 PM
Feb 2015

scumbag, as we say here in NYC, but I didn't realize that his dad was also a scumbag!

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
13. I read the entire article. Rudi is more of a scumbag then even I thought. If this article holds
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 04:26 PM
Feb 2015

true...and i believe it will, Rudi should be shut down forever.

red dog 1

(28,107 posts)
14. K&R...Thanks for posting, Segami
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 04:41 PM
Feb 2015

Giuliani is a liar, a jackass and a hypocrite.

I wish he would just go away!

LuckyLib

(6,828 posts)
17. Yes, his father was quite a role model: arrested as a
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 04:58 PM
Feb 2015

juvenile when he was 15. Republican family values Rudy - your family history is full of 'em!!

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
18. Regarding Mayor Giuliani's upbringing and President Obama's upbringing
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 05:13 PM
Feb 2015

From what I heard on the Thom Hartmann Show today, Obama was raised by his grandfather. This grandfather served as a soldier during WWII, he actually participated in the Normandy invasion. It doesn't get more patriotic then that huh but what about Giuliani's father? Rudy's pop had served time in prison so he couldn't enlist for the war, he was also a 'strongman' for the mob!

"Mob Ties (through his Dad and Uncle)

For a guy who made his name attacking the mob, Rudy Giuliani has a surprising number of mob ties himself, including his father Harold -- a convicted felon who, according to the book "Rudy! An Investigative Biography", was involved (with Rudy's uncle Leo) in a shoot-out with a mob competitor. The book charges that Harold's best friend Lou Carbonetti, Jr. was a mobbed-up Democratic Party leader with connections to the boxing world. Harold Guiliani did prison time for robbery and served as the collector for Giuiliani's uncle Leo."


http://realchange.org/giuliani.htm#dad

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
19. Whoa. That is gonna leave a
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 05:41 PM
Feb 2015

BUNCH of marks, the kind that last a while. Couldn't happen to a more deserving ghoul(iani).

LynnTTT

(362 posts)
20. Rudy crossed the line
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 05:43 PM
Feb 2015

Once you say that someone wasn't "brought up like you or I", you have effectively criticized their parents (or grandparents in this case).
Someone in the media should have the guts to confront Rudy, with innuendo if nothing else.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
21. Giuliani hasn't been right in the head since
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 05:53 PM
Feb 2015

the 9-11 hijackers blew up his love nest in WTC7 where he used to fuck around with his mistress. It was a "command post." Yeah, right.

Rudy wanted the love nest, excuse me, command post, there so he could walk there to meet up with the mistress -- even though almost everyone opposed the site on security reasons.

Of course, the consequences of putting the center there were predictable. The terrorist who engineered the 1993 bombing told the FBI they were coming back to the trade center. Opposing the site at a meeting with the mayor, Police Commissioner Howard Safir called it "Ground Zero" because of the earlier attack. Lou Anemone, the highest-ranking uniformed officer in the NYPD, wrote memos slamming the site. "I've never seen in my life 'walking distance' as some kind of a standard for crisis management," Anemone said later. "But you don't want to confuse Giuliani with the facts." Anemone had done a detailed vulnerability study of the city for Giuliani, pinpointing terrorist targets. "In terms of targets, the WTC was number one," he says. "I guess you had to be there in 1993 to know how strongly we felt it was the wrong place."

tclambert

(11,089 posts)
22. Talk about unpatriotic! In that photo, Giuliani's not wearing a flag pin.
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 05:53 PM
Feb 2015

We all know, from Dick Cheney and Condoleezza Rice, that patriotism means wearing a flag pin. All good Republicans know you must show unwavering faith in the flag to prove one's patriotism. Supporting the ideas the flag symbolizes is completely irrelevant. After all, The Pledge of Allegiance specifies that you pledge your allegiance to the flag, not to those elitist leftist intellectual abstract ideals like "no one is above the law," or "all men are created equal," except that they may quote that last one to prove women aren't equal.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
38. I'd just make one small correction...
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 01:47 PM
Feb 2015

"All Republicans know you must show unwavering [strike ]faith in[/strike ] display of the flag to prove one's patriotism."





pukes.

Cha

(299,076 posts)
25. Rudy's big mouth being his own worst enemy.. keep it up Rudy.. the more you shovel the more dirt
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 07:58 PM
Feb 2015

gets exposed on your own damn self.

Excellent, Segami.. thank you and Wayne Barrett!

Response to Segami (Original post)

mikekohr

(2,312 posts)
33. Compare President Obama's upbringing with the multi married, draft dodging, mobbed up Giuliani
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 09:56 AM
Feb 2015

1941, shortly after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor two brothers, related to six US presidents, enlisted in the Army.

In 1944, these brothers, Stanley and Ralph Dunham went ashore at Normandy, and served their nation fighting the Nazi’s across France, Italy and Germany. Another young American, Stanley’s, brother-in-law, Charles Payne, fought with Patton’s Third Army and was among the troops that liberated the prisoners at the Nazi Death camp of Buchenwald.

In 1945, upon return from the war zones of Europe, Stanley Dunham and his wife Madelyn, who had served the nation’s war efforts by working on a B-29 assembly line, settled down and started a family.

In 1961 a grandson was born to the Dunham’s at the Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital, in Honolulu, Hawaii.

In 2008, that grandson won the election for President of the United States with 52.7% of the vote, a 9,522,186 margin, in an election noted for the highest voter turnout in 40 years.

Today Sergeant Stanley Dunham rests in the Punchbowl National Cemetery where he was buried with full military honors. The light from Sergeant Dunham’s life, and the example of his family’s sacrifice, and selfless service to this nation, will forever brighten the pages of American history.

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
34. Jeez, these people who live in glass houses.
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 12:43 PM
Feb 2015

This is why I would never run for political office. I have to admit that except for the fact that my parents crossed the border illegally, my family is almost too goody-two-shoes to be believed. But, I can't extend that claim to me; hell, every family has that one member they wish they'd kept chained in the basement and I guess I'm the one in mine. But, politicians all seem to have so many skeletons in their closets and still get elected, especially by right-wingers. It isn't the case with many Democrats. Our politicians don't seem to be allowed to get away with very much. I think right-wingers only care if their leaders talk the talk. They like being inflamed. Sometimes, they don't even seem to mind if their politicians don't keep their promises on certain things because they can be blamed on liberals and get the masses even more riled up. I think if conservatives' biggest dream came true and they suddenly lived in the version of the Stepford utopia they envision, no minorities, everyone a one-mold Christian, no reproductive rights, guns sold at every candy store, etc., they'd be very unhappy people. Their lives are centered around their anger, fear and hatred. It's their opiate.

red dog 1

(28,107 posts)
39. Marrying his cousin?
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 03:34 PM
Feb 2015

Shades of Jerry Lee Lewis!

(At least Jerry Lee Lewis brought joy to people's lives, unlike that rat bastard Giuliani)


More on Giuliani:
http://realchange.org/giuliani.htm

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