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CHAPEL HILL The father of two of three students shot to death in Chapel Hill on Tuesday says the shooting was a hate crime based on the Muslim identity of the victims.
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But the womens father, Dr. Mohammad Abu-Salha, who has a psychiatry practice in Clayton, said regardless of the precise trigger Tuesday night, Hicks underlying animosity toward Barakat and Abu-Salha was based on their religion and culture. Abu-Salha said police told him Hicks shot the three inside their apartment.
It was execution style, a bullet in every head, Abu-Salha said Wednesday morning. This was not a dispute over a parking space; this was a hate crime. This man had picked on my daughter and her husband a couple of times before, and he talked with them with his gun in his belt. (Note: The shooter posted a picture of his gun on his facebook page only a month ago) And they were uncomfortable with him, but they did not know he would go this far.
Abu-Salha said his daughter who lived next door to Hicks wore a Muslim head scarf and told her family a week ago that she had a hateful neighbor.
Honest to God, she said, He hates us for what we are and how we look, he said.
Randy Tysinger, a spokesman for Ripley Rand, the U.S. attorney for the Middle District of North Carolina which includes Chapel Hill, said federal prosecutors are aware of the allegations the shooting was a hate crime. But Tysinger stressed that the Chapel Hill police investigation is in the early stages and said the federal prosecutors office would wait for more details before deciding whether to launch a federal hate crime investigation.
Read more - http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2015/02/11/5508121/victims-father-says-chapel-hill.html#.VNuhcPmsU00
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randys1
(16,286 posts)We know who does it and why.
Solindsey
(115 posts)ISIS and other Extremists best friend.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Guns. The perfect tool for murder.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)it wont end well. likely with most of the open carry idiots losing their weapons
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)Unpossible.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)They'll tell it's those who want to inject some sanity into our laws that are the crazy ones! And we call them mean names too!!! How dare we.
I want to ask exactly which law would have prevented this MURDERER from owning a gun? We are arming crazy, hateful people and shrugging our shoulders when they kill someone. So now these innocent people are dead and the tree of freedumb is fed and no one will do a goddamn thing about it.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Perhaps you have an answer.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)All of them have the answer. We're just too stupid and obviously like 2nd world status.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)How about you?
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Or aren't those the answers you're looking for?
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)I want to protect myself and those that I love, the same as you do. But my solution is less guns (a lot less), not more. It really is that simple.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Oh well. I respect your opinion on other subjects.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)that stopping good people from exercising their rights is a solution. It's a liberties and efficacy issue. Let's look at data points that may actually provide results, i.e. 60-plus percent of gun homicides are perpetrated by someone with an extensive criminal history. From there we can work towards effective solutions such as the President's recent announcement that DOJ was going to start assisting states in updating their NICS records. From there we should work together in getting NICS opened to private sales.
get the red out
(13,468 posts)I know that Duke University and UNC Chapel Hill are completely separate institutions, but it was only a few weeks ago that they had the big prayer dispute at Duke. Could that be a factor in ratcheting up a nutbag terrorist like this guy from intimidation to murder?
Just throwing that out there. I also think that hatred of "the other" in this country has a cultural component and not just a religious one. This guy is an atheist, but still, I presume, brought up in the southern culture of the US (as am I). The messages are pretty intense right now.
progressoid
(50,133 posts)I think culture/race has a lot to do with it.
Like the immigration issue. Would people be as angry if it were white Canadians coming here illegally?
bravenak
(34,648 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,634 posts)his "extermination process" by murdering three members of a very small minority, somewhat oppressed sect (by U.S. demographic standards).
Please. I'm a Jew. If this guy murdered three people walking out of a synagogue or Jewish community center, are we really supposed to believe there weren't any anti-Semitic impulses in play?
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)And why did Jake Tapper and his co-puppet anchor on CNN just now do a cross desk fist punch with each other after saying they will cover the murder of three Muslim students in a possible hate crime - after commercial. "Is it over a parking spot or a hate crime?", asks Tapper, speculatively?
Returning from break the story is about more war talk in Ukraine. Tapper is a corporate con puppet wanting a Fox contract. They all are over there.
I can't breath. A gleeful fist pump after saying that.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)It's not religion, but extremism (Christian, muslim, atheist, My Little Pony, etc.) that screws everything up.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Android3.14
(5,402 posts)Label me unsurprised.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)And I've been told many times that a guy carrying a gun into a public place is absolutely safe and calling the cops or leaving is totally irresponsible. Well I guess these victims were just in the wrong place at the wrong time when that responsible gun owner turned into a murderer. Could happen at any time. And it happens every damn day in this country.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)because the police are powerless in the face of ridicilous lack of regulation of mobile mass killing machines?
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)I'm sure it's pretty frequent in heavy gun-owning areas. Why do you think they all need a bigger arsenal?
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)JI7
(89,391 posts)People over some parking .