Chronicles of my RW friend (Part I)

[aggiesal]

First some background.
My friend is a 24 year old spoiled kid who grew up in Irvine, CA.
with a high powered attorney for a father.

In a previous post, I mentioned a story about a person arrested
in Boston used an EBT card (Food Stamps) to post bail, he feels
that there should be tighter regulations on EBT Cards.
He also believes that the crash of Sept. 2008 was due to too
much regulations on the banking industry and that there should
be less regulations in banking.

He never attended public school, so he doesn't believe that there
should be a public schools system. He claims that private schools
are better then public schools. When I tell him that statistics show
that only 17% of private schools out score public schools, he
doesn't believe it.
Following is an ironic story which shows how good a private
education he recieved.

The other day we went to lunch in Newport Beach at a place
called INKAS. It's a Peruvian food restaurant. The menus are
in spanish, and he can't read spanish. So we told him that the
menus were written in peruvian and that the food was from
Peruvia. Talk about a fish on a hook. We just reeled him after
that. So we taught him a few more peruvian words and made
sure he knew exactly where peruvia was located.

To say the least, he was quite embarrassed when we mentioned
that the cuisine came from Peru and that they spoke spanish,
located in South America.

[Meiko]

1. This guy is suppose to be your friend?

HMMM....

[rfranklin]

2. I think the 17% was charter schools versus public schools...

Private schools may produce better results overall since they are more selective. First, they filter via their tuition fees. Secondly, they do not have to keep students who are disruptive or those who are handicapped in any way.

Are Private Schools Really Better?

...a well-designed study released today by the Center on Education Policy that challenges decades of research on the advantages of private schools. "Contrary to popular belief, we can find no evidence that private schools actually increase student performance," said Jack Jennings, the center's president and a former staffer in the Democratic-controlled House, in a press release. "Instead, it appears that private schools simply have higher percentages of students who would perform well in any environment based on their previous performance and background."

The study suggests vouchers for private schools are unnecessary because — once you control for socioeconomic status — students at private schools aren't performing any better than those at public schools. The study says that it is "the kinds of economic and resource advantages their parents can give [students]" — as well as the level of parental involvement in their kids' education —that determines success or failure in high school. That's a message the teachers' unions and Democrats in general love: The problem isn't in the schools; it's with social inequality.


Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1670063,00.html#ixzz1t8tmcaIC

[zbdent]

6. so, really, the 17 percent is inflated ...

as Mitt would say, quelle surprise ...

[aggiesal]

7. So let me clarify . . .

As I understand it, 17% of Charter Schools (which I incorrectly called private schools)
outperform public schools.

[rfranklin]

10. Yes that is correct....for all the hoopla their results are pathetic...here's a link

On average, charter schools are not performing as well as their traditional public-school peers, according to a new study that is being called the first national assessment of these school-choice options. The study, conducted by the Center for Research on Education Outcomes at Stanford University, compared the reading and math state achievement test scores of students in charter schools in 15 states and the District of Columbia—amounting to 70 percent of U.S. charter school students—to those of their virtual "twins" in regular schools who shared with them certain characteristics. The research found that 37 percent of charter schools posted math gains that were significantly below what students would have seen if they had enrolled in local traditional public schools. And 46 percent of charter schools posted math gains that were statistically indistinguishable from the average growth among their traditional public-school companions. That means that only 17 percent of charter schools have growth in math scores that exceeds that of their traditional public-school equivalents by a significant amount.

http://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/on-education/2009/06/17/charter-schools-might-not-be-better

[malaise]

3. I think you mean the food was from Peru n/t

[JHB]

5. No, "Peruvia" was some Grade-A leg-pulling

aggiesal, I salute you

[liberal N proud]

4. Sounds like you have a pet republican

[aggiesal]

8. Does he say some things, ,...

that make me want to pull out what little hair I have left.

He's a nice enough kid otherwise.

[Surya Gayatri]

9. Insidious "niceness" and perilous stupidity--these kind of

people are far more of a menace than overt, in-your-face ranting right-wingers.

His is the kind of vapidity that renders legitimate political dialogue impossible.

I couldn't spend more than 15 min. in this guy's presence. How can you?

[aggiesal]

11. So I can get these stories about him

He's a rich spoiled Orange County kid, that's
been programmed by his dad.

Here's another story:
When Obama was elected, his dad anticipated that his taxes would go up.
So what did he do? He decided to pay himself the following years salary
this year to pay the lower taxes now, and not take a salary the following year.

Things that make you go hmmmm!