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An impotent show of bravado.
Once you start torturing, you've already lost. Torturing someone is just the tacit admission that you're weak. Torturing is just the pathological inability to admit it.
Trained and experienced FBI interviewers all know that there's nothing to be gained from it. Which is why they refrain from it.
Yet, Bush and Cheney hired some quack to say otherwise and paid him millions of dollars as a way to build false legitimacy for his work.
Torture is sadism and inhumanity
And ultimately self-defeating. Those who torture lose the moral high ground.
Vox Moi
(546 posts)
and it works.
That is why we know about it.
First Speaker
(4,858 posts)...it is an end in itself. Orwell said this in 1984, and it remains true. These monsters did this just because they could. There were no "ends" to justify it. They were letting their victims, the world, know that they--the victims-- were powerless, and that anything could be done to them, and no one could do a damned thing to stop it. And they were absolutely right to think this. And it will happen again.
TexasProgresive
(12,157 posts)el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)I think all three of the above responses are true and there are other reasons besides (there maybe others by the time i post this though - so mean the OP and responses 1 and 2).
1. Torture is about bravado for Cheney and Bush and most spokespersons for it.
2. Torture also has the important side benefit of scaring the citizenry both in Iraq/Afghanistan, but also here in the United States.
3. It's striking how stupid most torture is - Rush Limbaugh the jackass called it like fraternity hazing, and while he was trying to minimize the horror of it with that phrase there's an element of that going on - some of it does look like frat hazing if you are willing to haze a person to death. It's cruelty without restraint.
Bryant
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Whereas, the enablers and commanders of the torturers were called to justify their savagery.
hatrack
(59,584 posts)"The object of power is power. Now you begin to understand me." - O'Brien in "1984".