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MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts) Mon Dec 8, 2014, 10:56 PM Dec 2014

re: the sensitive stuff in the Torture Report that will @#$& up our international relations

and cause global rioting...

Maybe if we did something wild, like... oh... bring the war criminals to justice, rather than giving 'em promotions and proclaiming them to be patriots who love their country, it might go some ways in not getting people mad at us.

Some believe in UFOs, some believe in yeti, I believe in equal justice for all under the law.

Whatever.

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re: the sensitive stuff in the Torture Report that will @#$& up our international relations (Original Post) MannyGoldstein Dec 2014 OP

The solution for getting in trouble for doing bad things gollygee Dec 2014 #1

E. Burke says just let "good" people do nothing. That appears to work as well. n/t jtuck004 Dec 2014 #5

The problem is the continuity. delrem Dec 2014 #2

Justice is for us peons, not the powerful neverforget Dec 2014 #3

ding ding ding... wildbilln864 Dec 2014 #4

My mother said Midnight Writer Dec 2014 #6

Your Mother Sherman A1 Dec 2014 #9

As Cris Hedges has said, we are in a post constitutional America. zeemike Dec 2014 #7

"I believe in equal justice for all under the law." Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2014 #8

It was social media that caused all the problems in Ferguson, just like ... Scuba Dec 2014 #10

gollygee

(22,336 posts)

1. The solution for getting in trouble for doing bad things

Reply to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Mon Dec 8, 2014, 10:59 PM

Dec 2014

is to stop doing bad things, not to hide the things you do.

Most people learn this as children.

Generally, the answer is to just deal with the truth.

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)

5. E. Burke says just let "good" people do nothing. That appears to work as well. n/t

Reply to gollygee (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 9, 2014, 01:10 AM

Dec 2014

delrem

(9,688 posts)

2. The problem is the continuity.

Reply to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Dec 9, 2014, 12:09 AM

Dec 2014

Not any of this happens in a vacuum, not any of this happens without decades of structural support.

Pretending that it's a one off, that it's *over with*, is like pretending that Abu Ghraib was the product of "a few bad apples", it's a ridiculous assertion, counter-factual. In fact it sets my teeth on edge because it is so incredibly wrong.

neverforget

(9,437 posts)

3. Justice is for us peons, not the powerful

Reply to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Dec 9, 2014, 12:27 AM

Dec 2014

unfortunately

wildbilln864

(13,382 posts)

4. ding ding ding...

Reply to neverforget (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 9, 2014, 12:44 AM

Dec 2014

we have a winna!

Midnight Writer

(21,825 posts)

6. My mother said

Reply to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Dec 9, 2014, 01:33 AM

Dec 2014

If you are doing something you don't want anyone to know about, then that's something you shouldn't do.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)

9. Your Mother

Reply to Midnight Writer (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 9, 2014, 04:45 AM

Dec 2014

is very wise and we should all listen to her.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)

7. As Cris Hedges has said, we are in a post constitutional America.

Reply to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Dec 9, 2014, 01:34 AM

Dec 2014

And someone has made up some new rules...Torture is now legal, because they are patriots who want to keep us safe.
We are down the rabbit hole.

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)

8. "I believe in equal justice for all under the law."

Reply to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Dec 9, 2014, 01:54 AM

Dec 2014

Who's law?

The law for us or the law for the 1%?

Scuba

(53,475 posts)

10. It was social media that caused all the problems in Ferguson, just like ...

Reply to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Dec 9, 2014, 09:24 AM

Dec 2014

... it will be the torture report that causes us problems abroad.

Cops shooting unarmed teens and "patriots" torturing our "enemies" are not a problem, it's all that bright light.

Yeah, that's it.

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