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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOfficer Pedro Serrano
IN CASE YOU MISSED IT: This week, NYPD cop Pedro Serrano has been testifying about the unfair targeting of Blacks and Hispanics for New Yorks Stop and Frisk. To support his case, Serrano unveiled a video recording of superior ordering him to stop and frisk Black and Latino males between the ages of 14 and 21. This cop is very, very brave.
Good cops dont turn a blind eye to the corruption and racism being practiced by their fellow officers.
http://mogulcity.tumblr.com/post/103553760029/in-case-you-missed-it-this-week-nypd-cop-pedro
http://nymag.com/news/features/pedro-serrano-2013-5/
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)Thespian2
(2,741 posts)Here's one.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)The problem is that the other 99% refuses to do anything about them. You can depend on them to close ranks around the rotten apples in any given situation.
Appears as though Officer Serrano has the testicular fortitude to buck that tradition so god bless him.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)If a Walmart employee puts up with the crappy pay and rotten working conditions and fails to speak out about it, does that make him complicit in the misdeeds of the owners of Walmart?
My son was a cop for about five years before he got fed up with the bully culture he experienced there and bailed. He was very vocal and he was marginalized because of it. But some of his colleagues had families to feed and even though they disagreed with the department's us against them mentality, they kept their mouths shut and tried their best to do their job.
They may have been "good Germans" but they weren't corrupt, just weak.
BobbyBoring
(1,965 posts)The Walmart worker is complicit. People will abuse others as long as the others put up with it.
NanceGreggs
(27,814 posts)As we all know, people who work at Walmart do so because they want to be 'complicit' with employers who refuse to pay a living wage. Undoubtedly, these same workers have consistently turned down much better-paying jobs that are abundantly available to them, because they'd rather work for slave wages.
If the only job you can get is at Walmart, you should simply refuse to work. You should stay home and watch your kids go hungry, watch the unpaid bills pile up, and wait for the electricity/phone/heat to be shut off due to lack of payment.
Then, when you finally get evicted, you can panhandle on the street and brag to everyone how you'd rather see your family eating out of dumpsters than be 'complicit" by taking a job at Walmart, despite the fact that it was the only job you could find.
Being "boring" seems to be the least of your problems, Bobby. I'd say your arrogance, lack of empathy, and lack of compassion for those in dire straits, who see even a crappy paycheque as preferable to NO paycheque at all, far surpass your inability to be interesting or amusing.
What an absolutely disgusting post.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Flatulo
(5,005 posts)The average cop believes the the people they're supposed to be protecting are, at best, assholes, and at worst, barely human.
We need some leadership at the top on this issue. At the very least, congressional hearings on police tactics. When being killed by the police is the leading cause of death in some places, we need a shakeup from top to bottom. That includes the FBI and the DEA.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Cha
(297,222 posts)Taurusny22
(24 posts)It is still my home away from home. Most everything Officer Serrano said is true. Except I never had a boss ordering me to make a stop. I knew what reasonable suspicion was. It was a lot busier than the time PO Serrano spent there. There is a quota and it was very easy to meet.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)In 2013, New Yorkers were stopped by the police 191,558 times.
169,252 were totally innocent (88 percent).
So the NYC police are really really bad at detecting if someone has, is or is about to commit a crime.
Sounds like to me they just stop anyone with no reason at all. No wonder it was "very east to meet" the quota.
Now if they made an arrest > 50% of the time I would give them a break. But 12% of the time they were correct is disgusting.
And I am sure you wonder why people don't trust the NYC police stop and search policy.
cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)People to search and maybe will find a bag of marijuana and then we can take them downtown the fingerprint them and have them on file.
And people don't care because it doesn't bother them.
Taurusny22
(24 posts)Things were different then. Bosses gave pressure to give summonses but not 250's. My teams percentage was close to a fifty percent success rate. But we all worked there for years and we knew the people in the neighborhood. And we knew the criminals too. I used to look for reasons not to give a summons. If the person had a job I would let him slide If I saw a local drug dealer I would write until my pen ran out of ink. The drug dealer didn't care=he wasn't going to traffic court anyway, and my captain thinks I'm a superstar.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)!!
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)K&R
Flatulo
(5,005 posts)Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Thank you officer for coming forward and exposing it.
pocoloco
(3,180 posts)but profiling using various other criteria is not, and very effective, witness how quick
Boston bomber no.2 was picked out of a surveillance tape.
Hoppy
(3,595 posts)Last edited Thu Nov 27, 2014, 09:24 AM - Edit history (2)
Go on the googletubes, This American Life and download the story of the N.Y.C. cop who recorded is supervisor giving a quota on traffic tickets.
He gotta know, "Snitches get stitches."
Sienna86
(2,149 posts)He's a brave man. Good for him.
Dr. Xavier
(278 posts)don't expect much to change except for his employment status. For those of you who are too young to remember, read the book, 'Serpico'. Don't see the movie, Pacino was great (as usual) but the movie is sh!t compared to the book.
RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)Overseas
(12,121 posts)Spirochete
(5,264 posts)I liked him in Major League, too...
frylock
(34,825 posts)knr
olddots
(10,237 posts)That are afraid of the gang they joined without seeing how bad it has become .
Iggo
(47,552 posts)Last edited Fri Nov 28, 2014, 11:23 AM - Edit history (1)
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)and please...watch you back.
Terra Alta
(5,158 posts)Hope he doesn't get any retaliation from this.