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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,556 posts)
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 05:15 PM Nov 2014

Texas teacher fired over racially charged Ferguson tweet

A Dallas-area teacher who was accused of sending a racially charged tweet about events in Ferguson, Mo., was fired on Friday, school officials said.

Vinita Hegwood, a high school English teacher, was discharged at a special meeting of the trustees of the Duncanville Independent School District, according to a statement emailed by the district.

"In a special meeting this morning, the Duncanville Independent School District Board of Trustees voted unanimously to terminate the teaching contract of Ms. Vinita Hegwood effective immediately," according to the statement.

Hegwood was accused of sending insensitive comments from her personal Twitter account on Nov. 7. She had apologized.

"Who the [expletive] made you dumb [expletives] think I give a squat [expletive] about your opinions. #Ferguson Kill yourselves," read one of the messages Hegwood allegedly sent.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-teacher-fired-over-racially-charged-ferguson-tweet/ar-BBdJRE9?ocid=DELLDHP

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Texas teacher fired over racially charged Ferguson tweet (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2014 OP
Have to admit to being leftynyc Nov 2014 #1
Me too. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #4
I bet folks would be more surprised if they did a google image search snooper2 Nov 2014 #6
WOW! New Deal Dave Nov 2014 #48
It was a black woman, Ms. Toad Nov 2014 #8
Perfect sense. hifiguy Nov 2014 #13
Yep, and she deserved to lose her job n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #15
I just suspect that the response would not have been Ms. Toad Nov 2014 #16
I disagree SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #18
Any particular reason you believe that? Ms. Toad Nov 2014 #45
I believe the school board SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #46
Good lord AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #53
Let's see. Ms. Toad Nov 2014 #67
I agree Toad. I'm kinda surprised folks think a white teacher posting about "Thugs" would be fired. Hoyt Nov 2014 #76
Thugs does not necessarily refer to African Americans... Oktober Nov 2014 #77
It does when right wingers use it to apply to Ferguson protesters and the murdered kid. Hoyt Nov 2014 #78
Subjective.... Oktober Nov 2014 #79
Go to Discussionist.com and see who uses term "thug" and what they mean by it in reference Ferguson. Hoyt Nov 2014 #80
Racist is racist... Oktober Nov 2014 #84
Generally speaking, most people like the perception of consistancy. ZombieHorde Nov 2014 #87
I noticed ZombieHorde Nov 2014 #86
In the sense... Oktober Nov 2014 #89
I'm sure you're one to also point out that... Cooley Hurd Nov 2014 #100
No... because I understand the concept of context... Oktober Nov 2014 #101
That's a subjective observation on your part... Cooley Hurd Nov 2014 #102
If you are inclined to throw common sense and your powers of observation out the window... Oktober Nov 2014 #103
Common sense is rarely... Cooley Hurd Nov 2014 #104
In a completely different state SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #81
Is it "racism" to call out the Governor, police force, right wingers threatening protesters, etc. Hoyt Nov 2014 #83
You're making two points here. ZombieHorde Nov 2014 #88
I hear you, but I don't have a problem calling white racists, "crackers" Hoyt Nov 2014 #94
Yes very standard behavior AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #90
here is a lovely teacher from Houston. mercuryblues Nov 2014 #92
Not when it comes to racism. simak Nov 2014 #95
Wrong. A white teacher would not have been canned for that. Plus, I think what lady said is true. Hoyt Nov 2014 #96
Right. Ms. Toad Nov 2014 #97
It would have been the same. 840high Nov 2014 #36
oh, absolutely not d_b Nov 2014 #52
It would have been faster... Oktober Nov 2014 #61
Really? Ms. Toad Nov 2014 #65
Apples to apples is the only real way to compare this... Oktober Nov 2014 #66
You would be wrong about that. Ms. Toad Nov 2014 #68
It's closer but the evidence is much clearer for the twitter feed... Written word and all... Oktober Nov 2014 #69
Excuses, excuses, excuses. Ms. Toad Nov 2014 #72
You think it's an excuse to conduct an investigation to see if it really happened? Oktober Nov 2014 #73
I think when people insist there are no differences between how whites and blacks are treated Ms. Toad Nov 2014 #74
Find the example and we can chat... Oktober Nov 2014 #75
Even if mercuryblues Nov 2014 #85
She forgot her place, just for a minute randys1 Nov 2014 #26
I really hope you're being sarcastic n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #29
I am pointing out that Black people cant do what white people do all the time and randys1 Nov 2014 #30
You're assuming that a white teacher SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #31
Like what? NaturalHigh Nov 2014 #42
Forgetting ones place and going on racist screeds for the whole world to see are oceans apart... Oktober Nov 2014 #70
Duncanville isn't a little whites only hick town. tammywammy Nov 2014 #24
For an area with such a huge minority presence the school board has 6 of 7 seats filled by whites Lee-Lee Nov 2014 #33
If thats who the voters elected then I dont see a problem Travis_0004 Nov 2014 #43
Travis, you're kidding us, right? New Deal Dave Nov 2014 #49
no Travis_0004 Nov 2014 #60
Sounds a lot like Ferguson. Hoyt Nov 2014 #93
Apparently she is black, and her tweets were aimed at whites, whom she tblue37 Nov 2014 #56
What does "racially charged" mean? Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2014 #59
Now does Vinita give a squat? Racist words do have consequences. Dont call me Shirley Nov 2014 #2
Yes they do. 840high Nov 2014 #37
Good n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #3
And they need to stop saying "allegedly" SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #5
How many souls will Ferguson consume before the fires of KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #7
Wow, I will have to check out more... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2014 #34
Reading his work may get you put on an NSA watch list. (He was a KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #39
I am probably on it already... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2014 #40
Old school commies are the best kind. We need a new Popular Front New Deal Dave Nov 2014 #50
It's difficult to judge whether this was a good thing or not. Not knowing what the Fla Dem Nov 2014 #9
It wasn't the case. Ms. Toad Nov 2014 #12
Yeah, but the "cracker" comment ... New Deal Dave Nov 2014 #51
Twitter is a public space AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #54
Are you suggesting that there are some circumstances where this is acceptable... Oktober Nov 2014 #62
I was agreeing with the prior poster Ms. Toad Nov 2014 #64
That "quote" twists the tweet beyond recognition - Ms. Toad Nov 2014 #10
In the tweet it says "dumb duck ass..." logosoco Nov 2014 #20
You're right - I missed a couple of words - Ms. Toad Nov 2014 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author jwirr Nov 2014 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #14
I bet she's pro union now Boom Sound 416 Nov 2014 #17
I doubt the union could have saved her in this case n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #19
I know. Just a cultural joke Boom Sound 416 Nov 2014 #22
I wonder if the trustees would have been so outraged had....you know the rest. WinkyDink Nov 2014 #21
Dont wonder, NO they wouldnt have randys1 Nov 2014 #28
I hope they would have fired any racist teacher Travis_0004 Nov 2014 #32
I don't get it SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2014 #35
Are people rushing to her defense? - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #41
Reading for comprehension is key AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #55
I was not defending her. I think what others have said in this thread, logosoco Nov 2014 #63
Did she admit to it? AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #91
Her anger (not the statements) is justified given what has happened... Cooley Hurd Nov 2014 #23
If the worst the AA Community does while being murdered in the streets is send a tweet that randys1 Nov 2014 #27
Anger doesn't justify racism... Oktober Nov 2014 #98
As I said... Cooley Hurd Nov 2014 #99
Let's face it, most people shouldn't use twitter... joeybee12 Nov 2014 #25
No kidding. NaturalHigh Nov 2014 #38
Yup...and there's a record of that unfiltered stuff...nt joeybee12 Nov 2014 #58
I use it for my Charity Miles Fla_Democrat Nov 2014 #44
It's useful if you can do what you do... joeybee12 Nov 2014 #57
Agreed, I have a Twit account but don't use it. I also locked it down from the beginning, MH1 Nov 2014 #71
You would make money with that invention. NaturalHigh Nov 2014 #82

Ms. Toad

(34,153 posts)
16. I just suspect that the response would not have been
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 06:48 PM
Nov 2014

so swift, or so severe, had the races been reversed.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
18. I disagree
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 06:52 PM
Nov 2014

Now, might it vary from state to state? Probably. But I don't doubt that had the races been reversed in the same school/district, the outcome would have been the same.

Ms. Toad

(34,153 posts)
45. Any particular reason you believe that?
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 11:16 PM
Nov 2014

As a general rule, white people get away with a lot of behavior that would result in disciplinary actions if done by someone of color.

I wish I could find an article I'm remembering - because it really made it hit home for me when I realized that all the crap my spouse gets away with when she pretends rules don't apply to her result in a very different responses when people of color engage in the same behaviors. Until I read that article, I had not connected the tolerant and amused reactions she gets, and the fact that she gets away with it, with race.

I have no reason to believe this particular school district has any super-powers to avoid the different ways nearly everyone unconsiously views race in this country.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
46. I believe the school board
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 11:19 PM
Nov 2014

when they say that they can't tolerate that kind of egregious behavior. I have no reason to believe they would tolerate it from a white teacher.

Do you believe that the teacher should have been fired? If not, why not?

 

AnalystInParadise

(1,832 posts)
53. Good lord
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 12:13 AM
Nov 2014

not this crap again. Let's try to stay on target and not deflect. A woman (in this case a black woman) made hateful racially charged remarks....her place of employment fired her. This is a win for the school district, a win for morality and standards and a win for those against racism. The only person that loses here is the racist woman that made the remarks.......

Ms. Toad

(34,153 posts)
67. Let's see.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 11:07 AM
Nov 2014

A 20 year black teacher makes remarks on Friday on her own time, on her own personal twitter account, placed on leave on Monday, apologizes and resigns on Thursday, the school board rejects her resignation so they can fire her. Standard behavior for dealing with dealing with white folks who behave badly, right?

white teacher, in school, makes similar racist remarks directly to students:

Several students were eating lunch in a North Carolina math teacher’s classroom when the teacher reportedly told one of them that “if she only had 10 days to live that she would kill all black people.” A student accused Cynthia Ramsey, the head of the math department at Camden County High School of making the remark. After the school district called in the local sheriff’s office to investigate this allegation, several students told investigators the same story, according to local news station WAVY-10 (although a few students have since come to Ramsey’s defense in a subsequent news report).

Although Ramsey spent more than a week suspended from her teaching duties, she is now back in the classroom, according to WAVY. According to a statement by the district’s superintendent, “At this point, our main concern is to investigate this incident thoroughly, and collect the facts. This is a personnel issue, and it is confidential until resolved. We are following protocol in this investigation and student and school employee investigations are confidential.”


Yup. Treated exactly the same way.
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
76. I agree Toad. I'm kinda surprised folks think a white teacher posting about "Thugs" would be fired.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 12:24 PM
Nov 2014
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
78. It does when right wingers use it to apply to Ferguson protesters and the murdered kid.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 12:32 PM
Nov 2014

Go over to the Discussionist and see who uses the term "thug" and what they mean by it in reference to Ferguson.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
80. Go to Discussionist.com and see who uses term "thug" and what they mean by it in reference Ferguson.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 12:39 PM
Nov 2014

Nothing subjective about it. It is an overt racist reference in that sense.

I really have no problem with the teacher using the term "cracker" in reference to the Governor, police department and right/white wingers threatening potential protesters. Surprised you do.

 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
84. Racist is racist...
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 01:10 PM
Nov 2014

Never something to be condoned or even approved of... You seem to disagree...

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
87. Generally speaking, most people like the perception of consistancy.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 02:28 PM
Nov 2014

In the minds of many people, if saying "cracker" is OK, then saying other slurs is OK. History is irrelevant. Current power structures are irrelevant. The people we want to convince don't see history and current power structures. Most people crave fairness, and we generally believe what we personally see and hear. Because of this, publically using the term "cracker" is teaching people that all racial slurs are OK.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
86. I noticed
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 02:17 PM
Nov 2014

the word "thug" being used in a slur-like way during the Martin/Zimmerman investigation/trial/aftermath. Of course not every use of the word is based on anti-black bigotry, but it does seem to be used as a slur lately.

 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
89. In the sense...
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 02:49 PM
Nov 2014

... that a black person can act like a thug and so can a white person.

It's the behavior and not the person.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
100. I'm sure you're one to also point out that...
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 11:21 AM
Nov 2014

...the f-word (in relation to LGBT) is also a bundle of sticks.

 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
101. No... because I understand the concept of context...
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 11:32 AM
Nov 2014

... and modern usage.

When you call someone a F****t, only about .00001% of the population is going to first thing of a bundle of sticks.

When you call someone a thug, the only people who associate that with black people are racists. It certainly doesn't apply to the population at large.

 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
103. If you are inclined to throw common sense and your powers of observation out the window...
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 11:47 AM
Nov 2014

Sure...

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
81. In a completely different state
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 12:40 PM
Nov 2014

As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter how long the woman was a teacher, it doesn't matter what her record was, it doesn't matter that it was her personal Twitter account, and it doesn't matter that she was on her own time.

She made racist comments, which in my mind, means that she should in no way be in any kind of authority position over children in a classroom. And that applies whether she's black, white, yellow or spotted.

I can't believe that on a Democratic website I'm actually seeing people defend racism.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
83. Is it "racism" to call out the Governor, police force, right wingers threatening protesters, etc.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 12:47 PM
Nov 2014

I don't think so.

And I know darn well that a white teacher using the term "thug" -- or worse -- in reference to protesters and Mike Brown would not have been fired.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
88. You're making two points here.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 02:35 PM
Nov 2014
And I know darn well that a white teacher using the term "thug" -- or worse -- in reference to protesters and Mike Brown would not have been fired.


I suspect you are correct here.

Is it "racism" to call out the Governor, police force, right wingers threatening protesters, etc.
I don't think so.


If racial slurs are used, then the call out will appear racist. Doesn't matter if it's racist or not. Perception is reality. Not all parents are delighted to hear their child's teacher using racial slurs. Our words can decrease tensions, increase tensions, or do nothing to tensions. Public use of the word "cracker" increases tensions, whether you like it or think it's the dumbest thing ever.
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
94. I hear you, but I don't have a problem calling white racists, "crackers"
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 04:56 PM
Nov 2014

Especially local officials who are arming up and threatening potential protesters. Throw in threats from the KKK, and I can see this teacher using the term "cracker."

Of course, I'm one of those who really don't think Blacks typically have the requisite power to be racist.

 

AnalystInParadise

(1,832 posts)
90. Yes very standard behavior
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 03:25 PM
Nov 2014

towards a racist........white or black.

Spin it however you want, your mind is already made up, but the fact that you are upset a black racist got fired is very telling.

mercuryblues

(14,567 posts)
92. here is a lovely teacher from Houston.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 04:41 PM
Nov 2014

Angela Box @TheBoxThatRoxx
· Jun 29
The next time a #LowInformationVoter says I am a racist for opposing @BarackObama I'm going to go #Apocalypse on them.


Angela Box @TheBoxThatRoxx
· Jul 1
Ask Larry Sinclair how Barry likes his crack...among other things. Stay classy @BarackObama . http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/06/30/Obama-Jokes-White-House-Pastry-Chef-Puts-Crack-In-His-Pies


And much more and worse at her account.

She does not limit herself to twitter hate. She is a regular guest on a Houston cable access show called Tommy’s Garage. It is described as being Conservative raunchy, bigoted, and profane show.


http://egbertowillies.com/2014/11/15/bigot-against-muslim-teacher-angela-box/


What is the reaction?

Despite parents concern that a virulent racist is teaching their kids The school is keeping her. This is being framed a free speech issue.

"How can any parent trust that whatever she sends home about their child is truthful when you have a teacher with such bigotry and such hateful beliefs?," said Quanell X.

Houston ISD has reviewed episodes of "Tommy's Garage" and says Box will remain in the classroom. Parental concerns, the district says, will be dealt with on a case by case basis.

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/story/27392681/more-parents-object-to-racial-views-of-hisd-teacher
 

simak

(116 posts)
95. Not when it comes to racism.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 06:17 PM
Nov 2014

It's far more serious to be accused of racism as a white.

There are some who argue that racial animus is not racism by definition when the offender belongs to the minority population. IOW, "blacks can't be racist".

I say this as a response to the apparent suggestion that the school's being overly hard on her because she's black. It's far more likely that they're cutting her some slack compared to a white teacher who might say something similar. Apologies if that wasn't what you meant.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
96. Wrong. A white teacher would not have been canned for that. Plus, I think what lady said is true.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 08:35 PM
Nov 2014

See #92 for some examples.

Ms. Toad

(34,153 posts)
97. Right.
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 11:13 AM
Nov 2014

That explains the disparity the recent widely publicized case, in which a White teacher told her students (in school, while on the job) that her bucket list included spending the last 10 days killing black people. She was treated so much harshly - they lynched her....if by lynching you mean they gave her a brief unpaid suspension and she is back on the job.



 

d_b

(7,463 posts)
52. oh, absolutely not
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 12:10 AM
Nov 2014

I knew she wasn't white just by the headline.


if she were white, right now the school would be in the 'reviewing the facts' stage.

after that, maybe a 30 day vacation. Then she'd do the fox news thing. etc.

Ms. Toad

(34,153 posts)
65. Really?
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 10:46 AM
Nov 2014

A 20 year teacher tweets on Friday, is suspended on Monday, apologizes and resigns on Thursday, her resignation was rejected on Thursday for the sole purpose of firing her on Friday?

Even in the case of a teacher having sex with students I don't know that I have ever seen a reaction that swift.

 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
66. Apples to apples is the only real way to compare this...
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 10:56 AM
Nov 2014

IOW, is there an equivalent teacher out there who tweeted "Who **** the made you dumb Ni****s think I give a squat about your opinions. Kill yourselves"

Maybe there is...

I'm confident that if it were to make level of national news then that teacher would be out on their ass in a heartbeat.

Ms. Toad

(34,153 posts)
68. You would be wrong about that.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 11:15 AM
Nov 2014

This white teacher spoke similar words, directly to students, on the job at school

Several students were eating lunch in a North Carolina math teacher’s classroom when the teacher reportedly told one of them that “if she only had 10 days to live that she would kill all black people.” A student accused Cynthia Ramsey, the head of the math department at Camden County High School of making the remark. After the school district called in the local sheriff’s office to investigate this allegation, several students told investigators the same story, according to local news station WAVY-10 (although a few students have since come to Ramsey’s defense in a subsequent news report).

Although Ramsey spent more than a week suspended from her teaching duties, she is now back in the classroom, according to WAVY. According to a statement by the district’s superintendent, “At this point, our main concern is to investigate this incident thoroughly, and collect the facts. This is a personnel issue, and it is confidential until resolved. We are following protocol in this investigation and student and school employee investigations are confidential.”


http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/11/03/3587641/high-school-teacher-back-in-classroom-despite-reportedly-saying-she-would-kill-all-black-people/

It's been more than a heartbeat, and guess what - she's back on the job.




 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
69. It's closer but the evidence is much clearer for the twitter feed... Written word and all...
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 11:22 AM
Nov 2014

According to the story you provided, some deny it, some affirm it etc..

Ms. Toad

(34,153 posts)
72. Excuses, excuses, excuses.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 11:34 AM
Nov 2014

There are always reasons for treating individual black people more swiftly and harshly than individual white people for similar behavior. But the problem is systemic, and if you cant see it - and continue to rationalize it away - you are part of why it still continues. We are not a race blind society.

 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
73. You think it's an excuse to conduct an investigation to see if it really happened?
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 11:43 AM
Nov 2014

Should the word of some students be enough? Especially when others disagree?

The moron teacher in the OP sealed her fate the moment she publicly and permanently outed herself as a racist. There was no question other than to make sure someone didn't hold a gun to her head.

Ms. Toad

(34,153 posts)
74. I think when people insist there are no differences between how whites and blacks are treated
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 12:02 PM
Nov 2014

and individual instances of differences are always explained away as "apples and oranges" or "see here, there's this difference. It really isn't disparate treatment, because I can always find some difference in any example you provide." Yes - excuses.

Do you really think a black teacher accused by several students of saying that she would like to spend her final 10 days on earth killing white students would be back in the classroom while they were investigating? Seriously? If so, there's a bridge in Brooklyn with your name on it.

 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
75. Find the example and we can chat...
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 12:16 PM
Nov 2014

Otherwise you are just conjecturing through the lens of your own personal views.

Pointing out how things are significantly different doesn't fall in the excuse category. It falls in the facts and logic section...

The word of a student and friends, especially when taken against another group of students is not even close to the same thing as a self immolating blast of public and immediately verifiable racism that we see in the OP.

mercuryblues

(14,567 posts)
85. Even if
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 01:54 PM
Nov 2014

situations were exactly the same and outcomes different there would people who would say well, she obviously picked her nose during the meeting so that is the reason.

Saying that you would kill black people (some of whom are your students) is more egregious to me than some random posts cherry picked from twitter.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
31. You're assuming that a white teacher
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 08:41 PM
Nov 2014

in the same district wouldn't be fired for tweeting racist remarks, whereas I'm assuming he or she would be.

Do you believe this teacher should have been fired?

 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
70. Forgetting ones place and going on racist screeds for the whole world to see are oceans apart...
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 11:23 AM
Nov 2014

The only place she forgot was the one for being a decent human being.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
24. Duncanville isn't a little whites only hick town.
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 08:06 PM
Nov 2014

There's a larger minority population than white. Being from the area, on the news and such people heavily favored her getting fired. So yeah I think if it was a white teacher it would have been just as swift.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
60. no
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 07:58 AM
Nov 2014

There was an election and those people won, so the community thinks those are the best people for the job.

tblue37

(65,559 posts)
56. Apparently she is black, and her tweets were aimed at whites, whom she
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 12:28 AM
Nov 2014

called "crackers."

So not all that surprising in Texas after all.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
7. How many souls will Ferguson consume before the fires of
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 05:46 PM
Nov 2014

rage have burned themselves out and the shrieks and cries of pain turned to whimpers?

Harlem

What happens to a dream deferred?

Does it dry up
like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore—
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over—
like a syrupy sweet?

Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.

Or does it explode?

~Langston Hughes

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
39. Reading his work may get you put on an NSA watch list. (He was a
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 10:32 PM
Nov 2014

Commie old school.) One of my favorite American poets. I believe "Harlem" comes from a larger book-length work called Montage of a Dream Deferred, but it's been awhile since I've studied his life or work in detail.. "Harlem" in turn inspired Lorraine Hansberry's play A Raisin in the Sun.

Enjoy!

Fla Dem

(23,919 posts)
9. It's difficult to judge whether this was a good thing or not. Not knowing what the
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 05:54 PM
Nov 2014

thread of tweets were about, it's hard to say what she was responding to. I think she may tweeted about Ferguson, like how awful it was and someone tweeted back at her with a racially charged insult. Which then caused her to make the response that she did. Was it appropriate? No. For a teacher to tell someone to kill themselves is just wrong. But I got from the headline she was tweeting something negative against Ferguson, which I don't think was the case at all.

Ms. Toad

(34,153 posts)
12. It wasn't the case.
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 05:55 PM
Nov 2014

That tweet is distorted beyond recognition in the article. She was slamming whites for offering their unwanted (to her) opinions about Ferguson.

 

AnalystInParadise

(1,832 posts)
54. Twitter is a public space
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 12:16 AM
Nov 2014

Don't like what idiots are saying? Block them....Don't respond with more racist rhetoric, that gets you fired and deservedly so. I see a whole bunch of winners in this case and only one racist loser. (the woman is not a loser in the sense that she is a sucks at life, she lost the second she went full racist).

 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
62. Are you suggesting that there are some circumstances where this is acceptable...
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 08:00 AM
Nov 2014

... or excusable?

There are no circumstances under which this can be mitigated short of a gun to the head that forced her to twit against her will.

Ms. Toad

(34,153 posts)
64. I was agreeing with the prior poster
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 10:42 AM
Nov 2014

that it wasn't the case that she was saying something negative about Ferguson.

With the excerpted words removed (as in the OP), the quote appeared to be directed toward the people of Ferguson. That was not the case - as the prior poster suspected. I was confirming the poster's suspicion.

Ms. Toad

(34,153 posts)
10. That "quote" twists the tweet beyond recognition -
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 05:54 PM
Nov 2014

to the point it certainly feels as it it is directed at a different racial group than it is, and perhaps has almost the opposite meaning.

Here's the quote as printed in the article:

"Who the {expletive} made you dumb {expletives} think I give a squat {expletive} about your opinions. #Ferguson Kill yourselves"

With the expletives filled in: Who the f*ck made you dumb a** crackers think I give a squat f*ck about your opinions RE #Ferguson? Kill yourselves.

Quite a different feel, and not so surprising that she was fired in Texas for tweets which were racially charged against whites.

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
20. In the tweet it says "dumb duck ass..."
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 06:54 PM
Nov 2014

I wonder if she is somehow referring to the duck dynasty folks who have been pretty open about their racism.

I can understand anger and frustration, but saying you wish someone would kill themselves isn't a good thing, especially in something public like a tweet.



Or it could be dumb duck ass is just some new slang i am unfamiliar with?

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Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
32. I hope they would have fired any racist teacher
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 09:15 PM
Nov 2014

The only difference is if they fired a racist white guy people wouldnt be rushing to his defense.

 

AnalystInParadise

(1,832 posts)
55. Reading for comprehension is key
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 12:18 AM
Nov 2014

A few people in this thread are defending her, or at least trying to deflect and say "but, but, but.....white people"............

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
63. I was not defending her. I think what others have said in this thread,
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 08:23 AM
Nov 2014

is that there seems to be a problem with our society where when a black person does something they get treated differently. Our country is not supposed to be like that, but here we are into the 21st century and it still hasn't got that figured out.

In the news recently, a woman told students (not twitter, but directly), that if she only had 10 days to live, she would spend it killing black people. She was suspended with pay and is now back on the job.
I guess one could say it is the differences in the school board, but I like to think that the Constitution protects everyone the same everywhere. Any person who works with kids and talks about killing or telling someone they should kill themselves really should be directed to another line of work, no matter what color they are.

 

AnalystInParadise

(1,832 posts)
91. Did she admit to it?
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 03:31 PM
Nov 2014

Or is it something some students said that she uttered and others said she did not?

If it is a he said/she said thing, then NO she should not be fired unless it is proven. This was admitted to and MADE IN A FREAKING PUBLIC SPACE. I can't believe people are trying to equivocate the two, they are so vastly different it is ridiculous.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
23. Her anger (not the statements) is justified given what has happened...
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 07:23 PM
Nov 2014

...in the last few weeks regarding the "leaks" from the "grand jury".

randys1

(16,286 posts)
27. If the worst the AA Community does while being murdered in the streets is send a tweet that
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 08:28 PM
Nov 2014

is a bit off the mark

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
25. Let's face it, most people shouldn't use twitter...
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 08:13 PM
Nov 2014

It's far too easy to simply tweet ther first thing that comes into your head when you're angry...I'll never use twitter

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
38. No kidding.
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 10:32 PM
Nov 2014

The filter that most people have that censors their mouths is completely absent when typing out a twitter.

Fla_Democrat

(2,547 posts)
44. I use it for my Charity Miles
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 10:56 PM
Nov 2014

but that's it. I don't think I've ever posted any original tweets. Just finish the work out, click the button, and forget.




 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
57. It's useful if you can do what you do...
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 07:25 AM
Nov 2014

Walk away as soon as you're done...unfortunately, I bet most people can't do that.

MH1

(17,635 posts)
71. Agreed, I have a Twit account but don't use it. I also locked it down from the beginning,
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 11:31 AM
Nov 2014

so my tweets would only go to followers. Or something like that.

My initial intent was to use it for family and close friends only. But being old farts, we have other ways to stay in touch, and there's also Facebook. So haven't yet found a real need to be a Twit.

Also ...

I think maybe I'll invent a usb device that works like a breathalyzer for a car. You wanna post on the internet? Blow into the tube first.

A lot of this stuff is caused by PWI. Not sure if this woman's case is that, but if not, she's too dumb to be a teacher anyway.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
82. You would make money with that invention.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 12:40 PM
Nov 2014

Hell I don't even use twitter or facebook and I would buy one just to be on the safe side.

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